Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:08 AM Mar 2015

George F. Will: Inequality is a good thing

Lifestyles improve for all when the rich get richer

Every day the Chinese go to work, Americans get a raise: Chinese workers, many earning each day about what Americans spend on a Starbucks latte, produce apparel, appliances and other stuff cheaply, thereby enlarging Americans’ disposable income. Americans similarly get a raise when they shop at the stores that made Sam Walton a billionaire.

By George F. Will

link

29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
George F. Will: Inequality is a good thing (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2015 OP
Inequality is a good thing for George Will vixengrl Mar 2015 #1
Well stuck! immoderate Mar 2015 #2
americans' income has gone *down* as china's rose, george. maybe you missed it ND-Dem Mar 2015 #3
Well, Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #9
Which period are you defining as "While China's rose"? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #11
. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #13
I know what real income means - what is a nominal income? jwirr Mar 2015 #16
Income that has not been adjusted for inflation is referred to as nominal income daleo Mar 2015 #24
Thank you. Makes the graphs even more relevent. jwirr Mar 2015 #26
Nominal = the actual dollar amounts (not inflation adjusted). The denominated value of the ND-Dem Mar 2015 #28
This is the guy who gave a briefing book that was stolen from the Carter campaign Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #4
That garbles Will's role in that (which he's used to dismiss it)... JHB Mar 2015 #10
Take a look at sales figures, even Wal Mart is losing money these days Warpy Mar 2015 #5
+100 ND-Dem Mar 2015 #15
Absolute truth. Thanks Warpy. jwirr Mar 2015 #17
Not clicking shit to that clown d_b Mar 2015 #6
fascinating theory Enrique Mar 2015 #7
I can't wait until it's great for guillotine makers as well nt. MrScorpio Mar 2015 #8
Psychopathic bastard. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #12
I would love to be the one to tie it tighter. smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #29
Let's hope he remembers this when old white men are marginalized Blue_Adept Mar 2015 #14
I swear, it must be so easy to be a 'conservative intellectual'. Marr Mar 2015 #18
It is what theologians did for the church, for centuries daleo Mar 2015 #25
The Traitor George Will said that? Octafish Mar 2015 #19
Wow. moondust Mar 2015 #20
Hey, asshat, Johnny Cash wants a word with you, hifiguy Mar 2015 #21
The items produced cheaply in China are not a boon to poor people here. logosoco Mar 2015 #22
More like "George F. Won't" KamaAina Mar 2015 #23
"Lifestyles improve for all when the rich get richer" Ahh, no. FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #27

vixengrl

(2,686 posts)
1. Inequality is a good thing for George Will
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:43 AM
Mar 2015

so long as he's on the right side of the divide, and has clear social messages about just who he needs to suck up to. George Will writes grammatically enough, but I'm afraid he should have a prettier mouth if he wants to put it out there that way. I'll be in the backroom sharpening pitchforks and tarring up some torches.

Believing that we all benefit when someone out there is exploited is the ideological basis of slavery, and not surprising from a clue-deprived know-it-not who has boostered for rape culture and climate change denial as if fully believing that someone somewhere better hurt to keep the status quo quo-ing. He's set the bar so low for himself we will never fully grasp when he has hit self-parody.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
3. americans' income has gone *down* as china's rose, george. maybe you missed it
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:02 AM
Mar 2015

because the guys you shill for still pay you well.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
11. Which period are you defining as "While China's rose"?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:47 AM
Mar 2015

A cursory search of the internet (disclaimer: IANAE) suggests that American's median income rose steadily throughout the last part of the 20th century, stabilised in the 21st and is now falling slightly, but is still well above where it was in 1985.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
24. Income that has not been adjusted for inflation is referred to as nominal income
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:24 PM
Mar 2015

In time trend data.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
28. Nominal = the actual dollar amounts (not inflation adjusted). The denominated value of the
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:36 PM
Mar 2015

money.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
10. That garbles Will's role in that (which he's used to dismiss it)...
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:36 AM
Mar 2015

Will isn't the one who purloined the book. That was someone either working in the White House, or who came into the WH on normal business (for example, for the president's daily briefing).

Will was Reagan's "sparring partner" when they practiced the debates, and they used the briefing book to map out what Reagan should emphasize, gage what Carter's responses would be, and sketch out responses so Reagan would have them ready to roll out (including the "there you go again" quip).

Will, however, never disclosed that he was working so closely with Reagan's campaign. After the debate he gushed on camera at how Reagan was "like a thoroughbred". It wasn't exactly a surprise that he would say something like that -- he was there as a conservative commentator -- but he played the part of outside observer when he was an active participant.

Warpy

(111,235 posts)
5. Take a look at sales figures, even Wal Mart is losing money these days
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:21 AM
Mar 2015

US workers have been beggared beyond the ability to buy what those "cheap" Chinese workers produce, Mr. Will.

Congratulations! You supply side voo doo idiots have managed to choke off the demand side for everything but the encrusted tchotchkes the wealthy are snapping up.

Schmuck.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Psychopathic bastard.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:48 AM
Mar 2015

Someday he'll tie that bow tie too tight, and we'll be down one asshole with two first names. Can't happen too soon.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
14. Let's hope he remembers this when old white men are marginalized
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 11:53 AM
Mar 2015

Which is happening quicker and quicker, and he damn well better be around when it does so he can have a major sad.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
18. I swear, it must be so easy to be a 'conservative intellectual'.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:44 PM
Mar 2015

This is the one trick they do, over and over and over. They take some fundamental, societal problem (usually one that benefits the 1%), and then describe how it's ideal just as it is, and perfectly in balance with the universe.

It's one of the laziest types of thinking I've ever encountered. It's just well-dressed apathy.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
25. It is what theologians did for the church, for centuries
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015

"The greatest world in the greatest of all possible worlds."

Many economists and pundits of today are essentially doing apologetics for capitalism. Business schools perform the same function as seminaries did, back in the Middle Ages.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
20. Wow.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:00 PM
Mar 2015

And why not tyrannical slavery, right George? Why pay them anything at all if you have the guns and stuff to force them to do whatever you want? Let's do it!

Only this time around YOU and your children and their children all get to be the slaves, George. K?

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
22. The items produced cheaply in China are not a boon to poor people here.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:08 PM
Mar 2015

In the long run they are not really affordable when they have to be replaced sooner or more often. Low income folks are much better off staying away from Walmart, especially when it comes to clothing. Buying from thrift stores is much better. Clothes from Walmart rarely hold up long enough to even make it there!

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
27. "Lifestyles improve for all when the rich get richer" Ahh, no.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:44 PM
Mar 2015

The comforts of the rich depend upon an abundant supply of the poor.

-- Voltaire

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»George F. Will: Inequalit...