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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:02 PM Mar 2015

Who here is guilty of not eating an all organic / non-GMO diet?

I guess I'll be the first one to say that I'm guilty of eating non-organic, especially GMO foods (through dairy, high fructose corn syrup, eating meat, mexican food, etc...), since my way of making a living doesn't afford me the luxury to eat all the time at Whole Foods or Co-ops or stay in wealthier cities (I do a lot of traveling) or be able to prepare all the food that I eat myself, plus I just don't have the money for it (my daily caloric intake baseline minimum amount is at least 2300 calories, which is a lot of calories to take in, in a day.)

So if what is being said about glyphosate is true, that it is absorbed within the foods and is highly carcinogenic, I will either have to move to or stay in Colorado or any other state that has a legal recreational pot industry and have to take pot frequently otherwise I might die of cancer in the not so distant future due to all the roundup laced foods that I've been eating over the years.

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Who here is guilty of not eating an all organic / non-GMO diet? (Original Post) AZ Progressive Mar 2015 OP
A lot of us will cop out due to cancer. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #1
I don't either mercuryblues Mar 2015 #2
Virtually no study besides the IARC report has found links between glysophate and cancer. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #3
If you buy your organic produce from a U.S. producer, there will be no rotenone. It's is no longer Luminous Animal Mar 2015 #4
I'm poor no chance of eating organic or ghostsinthemachine Mar 2015 #5
The hyperbolic headlines do not match the reality. HuckleB Mar 2015 #6
More and more people who can afford organic are boycotting it, as well. HuckleB Mar 2015 #7
I eat heavy metal chased with nitro demitasse seveneyes Mar 2015 #8
I eat a constant diet of junk food Skittles Mar 2015 #9
My digestive system is a train wreck at times Ruby the Liberal Mar 2015 #10
I eat organic as much as I can whatchamacallit Mar 2015 #11
I resist GMO as much as I can Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #12

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. A lot of us will cop out due to cancer.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:07 PM
Mar 2015

Or heart disease, or diabetes, or all sorts of things related to our processed cheap 'food product' diet. While it might be healthier to eat organic, chances are unless we all go back to some sort of paleo/raw diet, what we're eating is going to continue to do nasty things to us. (And no, I don't eat paleo/raw either.) Glyphosate is far from the only dietary problem we've got as a country.

mercuryblues

(14,526 posts)
2. I don't either
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mar 2015

But that is not to say I don't try. Very few stores in my area have a decent organic section. GMO's unless labeled are not easy to identify.

I have digestive problems and many diet restrictions. Organic food is easier on my system and tastier. It is part cost analysis for me. It is a whole lot cheaper to pay a little extra for organic than to have to spend 2/3 days in the hospital because my digestive tract couldn't handle the alternative.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
3. Virtually no study besides the IARC report has found links between glysophate and cancer.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:27 PM
Mar 2015

Meanwhile, if you eat organic food, you face a higher chance of E. coli, not to mention the risks from rotenone, one of that industry's favorite pesticides.

http://www.nih.gov/news/health/feb2011/niehs-11.htm

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. If you buy your organic produce from a U.S. producer, there will be no rotenone. It's is no longer
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:59 PM
Mar 2015

approved for pesticide use; though, the EPA will allow it to be used in fish kills (and maybe farmed fish - not sure about this.)

The chance of ingesting E. coli from a certified organic farm and a conventional farm is statistically insignificant.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
5. I'm poor no chance of eating organic or
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 07:20 PM
Mar 2015

Non GMO food. Being able to eat is enough. I would but now it is jack in box tacos for me. Or Del Taco.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
6. The hyperbolic headlines do not match the reality.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 07:34 PM
Mar 2015

These pieces are a fair start in getting the fuller story.

GLYPHOSATE AS A CARCINOGEN, EXPLAINED
http://www.thefarmersdaughterusa.com/2015/03/glyphosate-as-a-carcinogen-explained.html

Epidemiologic studies of glyphosate and cancer: A review
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230012000943

Expert reaction to carcinogenicity classification of five pesticides by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC)
http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-carcinogenicity-classification-of-five-pesticides-by-the-international-agency-for-research-on-cancer-iarc/

The Dose Makes The Poison
https://doccamiryan.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/the-dose-makes-the-poison/

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Also, remember that glyphosate is far less toxic than the products it replaced. And note that you aren't necessarily safer with organic products.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
7. More and more people who can afford organic are boycotting it, as well.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

Why This Mom Boycotts Organic and Will Never Shop at Whole Foods
http://groundedparents.com/2014/12/19/why-this-mom-boycotts-organic-and-will-never-shop-at-whole-foods/

The reality is that "organic" is nothing more than a marketing term/tool, and the same goes for the non-GMO goofiness. BTW, you can find "non-GMO certified" labels on many products that contain no ingredients that could be GMO. It's one massive scam.

Here are few more pieces on the topic:

The Myth of the Altruistic Organic Industry
http://skepchick.org/2015/01/the-myth-of-the-altruistic-organic-industry/

The Ecological Case Against Organic Farming
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/09/10/is-organic-food-worth-the-expense/the-ecological-case-against-organic-farming

Organic food: no better for you, or the planet
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22240-organic-food-no-better-for-you-or-the-planet.html#.VQMnt454qgw

Why Organic Agriculture May Not Be So Sustainable
http://science.time.com/2012/04/26/whole-food-blues-why-organic-agriculture-may-not-be-so-sustainable

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
9. I eat a constant diet of junk food
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:53 PM
Mar 2015

and I bet my stats are better than 90% of the people on all these fad diets

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
10. My digestive system is a train wreck at times
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:14 PM
Mar 2015

but I haven't found the time or energy to "go organic". I have celiac, so do have to be gluten free, but haven't made that gmo-free leap yet. It may make me feel better, but I love my mass produced frosted corn flakes.

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