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awake

(3,226 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:06 PM Mar 2015

Did Indiana's new "Religious Freedom" bill just allow businesses to use "sharia law"

to justify discrimination of women, Christian, Jews, Gays .....

I bet Tea Partiers heads will explode when they discovers that Indiana may have just unwittingly authorized "sharia law" for private business.

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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. Another law.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:12 PM
Mar 2015

What makes the "It's just like all these other laws" disingenuous is those other states had laws banning discrimination based on sexual orientation. Also known as a "compelling purpose" in this law.

IN has no law banning discrimination based on sexual orientation. They do have laws banning discrimination based on race or gender though.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. It's against federal law
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:13 PM
Mar 2015

And probably Indiana law. Women and religion are protected classes. That's why this is an anti-gay law. LGBT are the only ones left to legally discriminate against

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. so other than how it applies to Women and religion can a shop owner
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:21 PM
Mar 2015

impose their understanding of "sharia law" on there customers?

marym625

(17,997 posts)
7. no. that's religion
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

You cannot discriminate based on a religious belief. Period. If you could, you wouldn't need the law to do it

These laws actually do nothing different in States that have not made LGBT a protected class. In states that have had issues with businesses not selling, say, a wedding cake, to a same set couple, or firing a person because they are LGBT (28 states for LGB and 34 for T) the people harmed have not been able to sue. But if it was not selling a wedding cake to a Muslim, or not serving a woman alone or not covered, they could sue.

This law just allows people the freedom to discrimination without any worry and is to usurp any possible federal protection that they think might soon happen

awake

(3,226 posts)
9. But you can discriminate based on your religious belief against LGBT
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:42 PM
Mar 2015

I am sure that there would be other "religious beliefs" which a shop owner will use to discriminate against people they find "objectionable" for reason other than religion, race or sex.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. If they discriminate against
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:47 PM
Mar 2015

Any protected class, they are breaking the law. If you can think of an example of something that isn't protected, that isn't LGBT, then I will agree you are correct. But I don't know of anything that isn't protected that isn't LGBT.

awake

(3,226 posts)
13. They could discriminate against the how some one is dressed
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:58 PM
Mar 2015

Not covering ones head could be said to be an affront to the religion of the shop holder or allowing ones child to speak when not spoken to...

Do not get me wrong it is clear the intent of the law is to clearly discriminate against the LGBT community, I am wondering if there may also be unintended results other than the loss of business in the state.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
11. Someone who looks different may be assumed to be promiscuous.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:50 PM
Mar 2015

A girl wearing her skirt too short, or too much make up or have blue or purple hair. Conservatives may assume they are having sex outside of marriage and refuse them service. I bet a women in a low cut shirt wearing a cross necklace wouldn't be discriminated against though because Christians are never promiscuous.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
6. businesses will undoubtedly try to use this law to say they don't have to provide
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:26 PM
Mar 2015

insurance plans that provide birth control.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
16. Give them an inch...
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:27 PM
Mar 2015

and they will take a mile. You don't need any health care at all, believe in Jesus and he will heal you - or not.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
14. christians make sure their behinds are covered when they go after other people. they want protection
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:48 PM
Mar 2015

to take away any protections for others

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
15. exactly. When the conservative Christians say their freedom is being taken away
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:51 PM
Mar 2015

what they mean is their freedom to deny others their freedom is being taken away.

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