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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:40 PM Mar 2015

I am so pleased about the backlash Indiana is getting over the bigoted anti LGBT law

I am extremely happy and overjoyed that they are getting major slap downs.

Now, if only people would stand up for women this way too... There's a lot going on in that state that makes me want to puke:

This Woman Says She Had A Miscarriage. Now She Could Face 70 Years In Prison.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/03/30/3639736/purvi-patel-sentencing/





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I am so pleased about the backlash Indiana is getting over the bigoted anti LGBT law (Original Post) boston bean Mar 2015 OP
Me too JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #1
Thanks can always count on you! boston bean Mar 2015 #2
I did a post in the GLBT group today JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #3
You can't count on a supreme court ruling for your rights. boston bean Mar 2015 #6
Amen! JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #8
Good thought, women have had issues on abortion, contraception and trumped up laws such as charging Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #4
If a woman goes to prison for miscarriage, we should invade the state and arrest the NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #7
I think some of the people elected does not have a clue on how the human body works. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #12
Got it...There is so much hate from these despicable cowards, but this is VERY important too! NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #5
I'm loving it! MoonRiver Mar 2015 #9
Purvi Patel was sentanced to 20 years (first story) el_bryanto Mar 2015 #10
You are right. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #11
This place has been just short of a hell-hole since the Reagan years. When they busted silvershadow Mar 2015 #13
An attack on any segment of the population is an attack on all of us project_bluebook Mar 2015 #14
Me too! Thanks for helping us fight these bastards! Adrahil Mar 2015 #15
I really wish we could split this country. I'd sacrifice a great deal if I never Zorra Mar 2015 #16
A split is becoming clear to me in the last two years also. Exhaustion is the game plan as in all appalachiablue Mar 2015 #18
Have businesses & organizations stood up to states attacking WOMENS RIGHTS? appalachiablue Mar 2015 #17
k and r--you and me both. niyad Mar 2015 #19
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! calimary Mar 2015 #20
Indiana has a long history of religious right clusterfuckerry. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #21

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
3. I did a post in the GLBT group today
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:44 PM
Mar 2015

You know what? They will stand with us. it's a spectrum of laws and Rey are chipping away at is bit by bit.

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
6. You can't count on a supreme court ruling for your rights.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

If anything let it be a lesson to all. When looking at how far back womens choice is going in this country, people ought not let their guard down... this is why we need LAWS, Amendments, not just rulings.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Good thought, women have had issues on abortion, contraception and trumped up laws such as charging
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:45 PM
Mar 2015

A woman with murder if she has a miscarriage. Somewhere we need to prevent men from doing absolutely crazy things when it comes to women. Get out of the damn way and allow women to decide our wishes for our bodies.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
7. If a woman goes to prison for miscarriage, we should invade the state and arrest the
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

judicial and politicians.

seriously

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. I think some of the people elected does not have a clue on how the human body works.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 08:22 PM
Mar 2015

Just like Todd Akin who thinks a woman can just will herself not to get pregnant and the guy who thinks a gamer could be swallowed to do a vagina exam.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. I'm loving it!
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:47 PM
Mar 2015

For one thing, it shows how liberal and tolerant most Americans really are! For another thing, it puts that bigoted Pence and his minions in their rightful place, which I will leave to the imagination.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. Purvi Patel was sentanced to 20 years (first story)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:51 PM
Mar 2015

That case is truly bizarre and its impossible to follow the courts and juries and law enforcement's reasonings unless you also believe that women are second class citizens.

The judge in Patel’s case, Elizabeth Hurley, was the first superior court appointee by Indiana’s conservative governor, Mike Pence. Judge Hurley allowed the jury to view a video of police interrogating Patel in post-operative recovery, despite defense arguments that Patel’s Miranda rights were ignored and she was recovering from sedation and severe blood loss during the questioning.
From this story by Public Radio International on the case.

It's a pretty terrible situation.

Bryant

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
11. You are right.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 08:12 PM
Mar 2015

We need all the help we can get and I am not to shy to ask for it. All of us need to be there to fight for a cause. We the minorities, need to take each others backs. We also need to vote.

Thanks boston bean

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
13. This place has been just short of a hell-hole since the Reagan years. When they busted
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:11 PM
Mar 2015

the unions down, what was left of the jobs went south, and with them huge numbers of Democratic voters. As the Republicans have strengthened, so has their boldness. Add to that the fact that Pence won with less than 50% and that he is a delusional tea-partier, and well...He wouldn't win re-election after the Glenda Ritz fiasco, then this came up. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot- he emptied the clip. I have been warning he needs get no where near the White House he dreams of. I hope this does it. If, perchance, it springboards him, it is up to you all to stop this eerie, creepy man. Even Republicans here were largely done with him, and that was *before this latest fiasco.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
14. An attack on any segment of the population is an attack on all of us
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:25 PM
Mar 2015

Because any of us could be next on the GOP hate list for whatever reason. Its about power and money for them. Hate makes money, hate gets votes. United we stand, divided we fall.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. Me too! Thanks for helping us fight these bastards!
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe we can even turn this into something great and add LGBT to the list of protected classes! Keep it America! We're winning!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
16. I really wish we could split this country. I'd sacrifice a great deal if I never
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

had to deal with conservative idiots again.

I'm just exhausted from fighting their eternal hate.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
18. A split is becoming clear to me in the last two years also. Exhaustion is the game plan as in all
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:37 PM
Mar 2015

conflict and the RW always has superior financial resources. Something has to change in this downward spiral of radical ultraconservative extremist assault.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
17. Have businesses & organizations stood up to states attacking WOMENS RIGHTS?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

How can we extend this current wave to protect WOMENS RIGHTS? Radical ultraconservative extremism in the name of 'religion' is a travesty, like attacks on VOTING RIGHTS, HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT, PROGRAMS & SERVICES for Workers, Seniors, Disabled, Poor, Children, Immigrants & Students. We must preserve our democracy now under assault.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
20. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:54 PM
Mar 2015

I am TOO!!!! EVERYBODY's getting a smack down in Indiana.

Frankly, boston bean, I think this is EXACTLY what we pro-choicers need to do, too. I haven't heard ANYONE connect the dots as far as should be done.

CONSIDER (And this has already happened):

With a law like this in place, it's not just gay couples who'd get turned away from a restaurant or a flower shop when they're planning a wedding.

It's women trying to get a prescription filled for the Pill. We've already seen the stories and the foolishness of the pharmacists who say their consciences can't fill such a prescription. It's against their religion. Can't bring themselves to just do their jobs and leave their politics OUT OF IT. They have to meddle in our personal lives, all the way into our bedrooms!

THIS is a golden opportunity to help others connect those dots, and demonstrate that this involves LOTS of different rights that the religionistas don't like and want to take away. Some of these, they've ALWAYS wanted to take away, and many of those involve women. I have actually heard a few people on the radio who state flat-out that the problems really began in our society when women gained the right to vote. More recently, astoundingly enough, there was even a female legislator somewhere in the South, I forget where, who stated rather oddly that she thought women shouldn't have the right to vote! That would include her, too, presumably - IF what she said she wanted ever turns out to BE what she wanted. I would not be surprised to hear some rhapsodizing about how soon they might be able to legislate their right to order us to wear chastity belts. Women would be next. In many cases before the Medievalists among us target that other voting block they want to keep controlled: Blacks and Latinos. Mainly because the air seems to have been let out of the balloon for women's rights. Certainly women's reproductive rights. We have to reinflate that balloon. OR bring in our own Goodyear blimp!!!!!

Where else do you imagine that side of the aisle will try to get away with applying this law next? How far do you think they'll be tempted to stretch it? Especially empowered and undoubtedly emboldened by what mike pence did, and how their darling ted cruz just stepped up to voice support? Think of all the people they don't like. Religiously and otherwise - but you can find ways to stretch religion over all these excuses too, if you're really clever and manipulative. And I wouldn't put it past this particular opposition.

We need to understand something. Our gay friends and brothers and sisters need to understand this. We women need to understand this. Our friends and brothers and sisters in other targeted skin-color groups need to understand this. We need to understand the opposition and take it VERY seriously. They're fired up for their idea of God. They think they have God on their side. So they're NOT going to let up OR accept retreat.

As though we were dealing with our own domestic ISIS.

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