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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:34 AM Mar 2015

Hillary’s emails: Deleted but not gone

Hillary’s emails: Deleted but not gone
3/30/15

As House Republican leaders weigh whether to try to force former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to hand over her personal email server, experts say the messages she deleted from it — or at least portions of them — can almost certainly be recovered.

Half a dozen computer forensics experts interviewed by POLITICO said remnants of Clinton’s emails likely still exist on the server, although retrieving them could be time intensive and expensive.

Clinton’s attorney David Kendall on Friday wrote Benghazi Committee Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), declining the committee’s request for the server to be turned over to an independent third party. The committee said it wants a third party to verify that all Benghazi-related emails were in fact turned over to the panel—especially after Clinton acknowledged deleting anything determined to be “personal” messages.

Kendall called the request pointless, saying Clinton’s IT staff had confirmed to him the messages are gone for good.

But permanent deletion is extremely difficult to achieve, the experts said. Enterprise servers built in the last decade or so are increasingly designed to preserve emails more rigorously, either as a document trail in case of a lawsuit, to comply with industry regulations or to allow system administrators to “idiot proof” their systems so they can save the day when non-technically proficient executives accidentally delete emails.

The key principle of digital forensics is “Delete doesn’t and restore won’t,” said Mark Rasch, a former federal prosecutor who worked on computer crimes....

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/hillary-clinton-emails-deleted-not-gone-116526.html
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Hillary’s emails: Deleted but not gone (Original Post) RiverLover Mar 2015 OP
Right wingers are unhinged. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #1
It doesn't matter what the 'end' is for any given scandal or "scandal". Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #2
I fully disagree. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #3
+1 "So no, the longer this drags on, the worse for Hillary." RiverLover Mar 2015 #4
"Top liberals call for Warren candidacy" (Hillary is not popular on the Left) KoKo Mar 2015 #6
Democrats are burned out on Clinton scandals Oilwellian Mar 2015 #5
Yet she leads in the polls among Democrats. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #10
She lead in the polls before and lost n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #12
True but she had strong opposition last time. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #13
This is just bad politics from a candidate whose chief qualification is "experience". nt Romulox Mar 2015 #7
" " " " n/t MBS Mar 2015 #9
+1!! /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #11
Some computer experts have figured out how to grab some serious change ... GeorgeGist Mar 2015 #8
This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #14
For a fee... LuvLoogie Mar 2015 #15
Benghazi!!...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #16
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Right wingers are unhinged.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:42 AM
Mar 2015

In the end, Hillary will come out on top as she always does. They will keep pushing their foolish nonsense, spend millions looking into it, then come up with some pathetic gotcha. The people will say "that's what they found." Hillarys popularity will rise. Keep going Gowdy. Your supporters love you.

"Clinton’s attorney David Kendall on Friday wrote Benghazi Committee Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), declining the committee’s request for the server to be turned over to an independent third party."

The Benghazi Committee deserves absolutely no recognition as being legitimate. Not only that, the longer Hillary can drag this on the better for her. It is a witch hunt supported by right wing nut jobs. The citizens aren't fooled by the relentless and foolish attacks on the Clintons. Give it a couple of weeks and check out her poll numbers. After an initial dip, they will skyrocket. She is simply a very popular person among democrats and the left.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. It doesn't matter what the 'end' is for any given scandal or "scandal".
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:46 AM
Mar 2015

What low info voters remember is the mention over months of her doing things that 'appear shady'.

Christie was ultimately supposedly found to have not been directly involved in BridgeGate, but it sank whatever chance of a Presidential bid he had and tanked his approval ratings.

So no, the longer this drags on, the worse for Hillary.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. I fully disagree.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:07 AM
Mar 2015

I truly think this will be better for her as it goes on. It will become apparent what it is. If Ken Starr was still going on old Bill, my man would be in the high 90's for favorability. Not that he wasn't one of the most popular and liked men in the middle of the Starr fun.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. +1 "So no, the longer this drags on, the worse for Hillary."
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:12 AM
Mar 2015

And the worse for Democrats.

I don't think we want to know what she's hiding in those emails that was worth the political fallout from destroying her server.

I doubt it has anything to do with Benghazi.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. "Top liberals call for Warren candidacy" (Hillary is not popular on the Left)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:18 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:06 AM - Edit history (1)

Top liberals call for Warren candidacy

They say that Hillary Clinton needs a Democratic opponent.


By Gabriel Debenedetti

3/30/15 5:40 AM EDT

Updated 3/30/15 6:28 PM EDT

Three prominent liberal activists — including the president of a large union — are calling for Elizabeth Warren to challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, insisting that the Massachusetts senator’s participation in a competitive primary process would benefit the party.

Warren hasn’t budged from her insistence that she won’t pursue a White House bid. But the new voices calling for her candidacy represent a new phase in the progressive push to persuade her to run, just days after Clinton appeared alongside two other union chiefs on a panel in Washington — and not long before Clinton is expected to launch her long-anticipated presidential bid.

“We agree with former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, the Boston Globe, and many others that Sen. Elizabeth Warren would be a strong candidate, and that if Hillary Clinton also declares, the debate between the two of them would be critical for our nation,” write Larry Cohen, president of the Communications Workers of America, and Annie Leonard, executive director of Greenpeace USA — the environmental group — in a new letter published by Run Warren Run, a campaign organized by liberal political organizations.

The letter’s authors argue that Democrats deserve a lively debate over issues, including the role of money in politics, voting rights, global trade, global warming and worker’s rights, and that the “country needs new ideas and new leaders.”

“If we end up with a single Democratic candidate — and little to no debate in the primaries — those of us unlikely to support a Republican nominee will be left voting for a Democrat who may be opposed to the Republican agenda but is not necessarily a champion of the vision of change that millions of us seek and that this country needs,” write Cohen, a Democratic National Committee member who endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama over Clinton in 2008, and Leonard.

Run Warren Run, the campaign jointly operated by liberal groups MoveOn and Democracy for America, will also unveil an op-ed by Javier Valdes, secretary of the Working Families Party in New York and a leader of a progressive political committee focused on Hispanics, encouraging Warren to run for the sake of spurring a debate about “racial and immigrant justice.”

A significant group of liberal activists, academics and groups — including New York’s Working Families Party and The Boston Globe’s editorial board — have lined up behind the efforts to draft Warren, often citing the importance of a competitive primary rather than any animus toward Clinton. But many progressives regard the presumptive front-runner as being too close to Wall Street. They believe Warren, an antagonist of big banks, represents an attractive alternative despite her repeated insistence that she will not run. At the very least, they expect she could help pull Clinton farther to the political left.

The addition of Cohen to the pro-Warren group is sure to complicate organized labor’s role in the nominating process. Most labor leaders have yet to weigh in, but many have a long history with Clinton and some have appeared with her at recent events.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/top-liberals-call-for-warren-candidacy-116496.html#ixzz3VyMDEPsk

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
5. Democrats are burned out on Clinton scandals
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:17 AM
Mar 2015

It's time for some new, fresh ideas and candidates in our party.

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