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Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:56 AM Mar 2015

Why the Indiana law is Viagra for Heritage-Foundation-types.

Heritage-Foundation-types are being sexually aroused by the Indiana law because it addresses their long-held complaint that government should not have laws against discrimination. It's all about big government violating the tenth amendment to the constitution.

You can't tell them of the insidious harm discrimination brings to people, all they care about is this ideological battle.

Here's a quote from the Weekly standard site:

RFRA allows a person's free exercise of religion to be "substantially burdened" by a law only if the law furthers a "compelling governmental interest" in the "least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/indianas-religious-freedom-restoration-act-explained_900641.html

Of course, it IS in the government's interest to make sure that people, especially taxpayers, are being treated FAIRLY. A gay taxpayer helps pay for the roads that service a business then that business refuses to serve gays. Why should gays be forced to pay for those roads. It surely is a compelling governmental interest to insure that taxpayers are being treated fairly! The public understands this, why can't the Indiana GOP and the Heritage Foundation get off of their ideological high horse and start working for America?

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Why the Indiana law is Viagra for Heritage-Foundation-types. (Original Post) Democrats_win Mar 2015 OP
The ditto heads only understand POWER Protalker Mar 2015 #1
I like the cut of your jib, what is a jib anyway? LOL randys1 Mar 2015 #2
To admire the 'cut of one's jib' is a metaphor drawn from the KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #8
Yeah, now I remember, thanks randys1 Mar 2015 #9
There is noting ideological about it. DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #3
Sounds like the income inequality is as important as racism argument, and it isnt. randys1 Mar 2015 #4
You miss my point, I believe DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #5
I got your point, trust me. I hear the same thing over and over when race is the issue randys1 Mar 2015 #6
That's not what I said. DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #7

Protalker

(418 posts)
1. The ditto heads only understand POWER
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:09 PM
Mar 2015

Thanks to Apple, Angie's List NBA NCAA the poop hit
the fan. This is what I have fought since the mid 70's.
To quote the Divine Miss M, you've got to have friends! that

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I like the cut of your jib, what is a jib anyway? LOL
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:10 PM
Mar 2015

You think like me, as in keeping it out in the open who the real movers and shakers are on the criminal rightwing.

Heritage Foundation is an unusually disgusting group of individuals who have one thing in common, almost down to the very last one.

let's see if anyone can figure out what I mean by the picture of the President of that organization






Board has ONE person who is not a white privileged asshole.

And I will not use the "T" word as to her existence there, but it is what it is. (can you say the female version of Clarence Thomas?)

I need to research her more before i say that, but it is a safe bet I think.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
8. To admire the 'cut of one's jib' is a metaphor drawn from the
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:12 PM
Mar 2015

nautical world, where the 'jib' is the headsail on a sail-driven vessel, and the 'cut' of the jib refers to its shape.

More contemporary and simple to say "I like your style" but I still like the old sayings.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cut+of+your+jib



 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
3. There is noting ideological about it.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:11 PM
Mar 2015

The purpose of these kinds of laws, and these kinds of issues, is to divide the masses. To turn wage laborers against one another so they don't bother to realize they are being hung out to dry by the capitalists that actually pay for institutions like the Heritage Foundation. That is not to say that the effects of these laws are real and aren't horrible, just that people at the top are not ideological, other than the ideology that wages should be as low as possible, taxes shouldn't be applied to them and that they can otherwise do as they choose in the name of profit.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Sounds like the income inequality is as important as racism argument, and it isnt.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:13 PM
Mar 2015

If you are not gay or black then it is easy to frame all those issues as economic.

ALL issues are economic, by definition.

I cant think of an issue that doesnt have a financial component to it, but if you are gay, discrimination is number one issue.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
5. You miss my point, I believe
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:23 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not addressing the issues or ranking them in importance. I'm not suggesting we don't attack and condemn bigots. The intent of the laws is to cater to bigots and racists; just another page from the old "Southern Strategy" playbook. What I'm addressing is the idea that the Heritage Foundation, in reality not rhetoric, operates based on "ideology". I would submit that the people that actually pay the bills for right wing think tanks actually don't care at all about ideology, except insofar as they know that these issues will divide working people and help them get political power. They use "cultural" ideology as a means to an end. What the Koch Brothers and the rest of the billionaires want to do with that political power is make money. Period.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. I got your point, trust me. I hear the same thing over and over when race is the issue
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:32 PM
Mar 2015

While we are distracted by civil rights issues, police abuse, American Idol winners and what Bruce Jenner will do as to his/her sexuality, there is a group running away with all the money and power and natural resources, of course.

Yes they use these issues and more to divide us and distract us.

But the people directly affected by these hate laws or these hate institutions, are dealing with something I never have to deal with and I am guessing neither do you.

Now if I am wrong that you are a minority and daily deal with massive and extreme life altering discrimination, as ALL minorities do in this country, then I would love to hear about your experiences.

I am simply relating the endless stories I am told by people who are not like me or people who actually deal with this shit, daily.




 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
7. That's not what I said.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:59 PM
Mar 2015

I am not saying that we are simply distracted by these issues or that the results of racism and bigotry aren't real or that we should look past them because they are a distraction from the "real" issues. The original post was about the "ideology" of the Heritage Foundation, not about whether racism and bigotry are "real" issues. I would submit, as I said, that the Heritage Foundation has an agenda that is not actually based on ideology, but rather uses the ideology of rubes as a means to an end. The fact that that is true doesn't mean we should fight any less against what they are actually doing.

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