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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:40 PM Mar 2015

The ultimate red neck beloved organization comes out in opposition to Indiana

"religious freedom" law: NASCAR

Perhaps Indiana Gove. Mike Pence and state lawmakers should revisit the “religious freedom” legislation. They’ve officially lost NASCAR , a sport that, despite its growing diversity, still has a strong conservative base.

“NASCAR is disappointed by the recent legislation passed in Indiana,” said NASCAR Senior Vice President and Chief Communications Officer Brett Jewkes, in a statement released Tuesday.

“We will not embrace nor participate in exclusion or intolerance. We are committed to diversity and inclusion within our sport and therefore will continue to welcome all competitors and fans at our events in the state of Indiana and anywhere else we race.”

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/george-diaz-en-fuego/os-nascar-indiana-law-20150331-post.html

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The ultimate red neck beloved organization comes out in opposition to Indiana (Original Post) cali Mar 2015 OP
Oh, noes! - can the NRA be far behind? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #1
Maybe iandhr Mar 2015 #14
NASCAR is changing. Jeff Gordon is a liberal. randys1 Mar 2015 #2
Indeed. Been watching since '64. I do miss those big blocks accelerating to the green... Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #3
Portland, Indy...Fathers Day, around 1990...Michael beats Mario, on fathers day (not NASCAR) randys1 Apr 2015 #26
I can't metaphorically compare the sound of those huge V-8s accelerating. Even the new, smaller Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #27
Haaaahahaha. NASCAR. progressoid Mar 2015 #4
"Dale Earnhardt is spinning in his grave." ksoze Mar 2015 #5
Ha! This is getting so juicy. demmiblue Mar 2015 #6
hooo boy you have done it now ... yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #7
Ha Ha! Oilwellian Mar 2015 #8
Hypocrites. former9thward Mar 2015 #9
How many AA drivers are there in any racing league? frylock Mar 2015 #15
And that justifies it? former9thward Mar 2015 #16
I'm trying to understand NASCAR's culpability in not having black drivers.. frylock Apr 2015 #18
Ok, it will always be white. Let's move on. former9thward Apr 2015 #19
that's a rather defeatist attitude.. frylock Apr 2015 #20
Current Formula 1 champion is a (half) black British man named Lewis Hamilton. DanTex Apr 2015 #23
yep.. frylock Apr 2015 #24
Formula 1 is not NASCAR which is what I posted on. former9thward Apr 2015 #25
It is a very homogenous sport. Chan790 Mar 2015 #17
Many AA NASCAR drivers, most not currently full time. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #22
If NASCAR had supported the IN law former9thward Apr 2015 #29
"If NASCAR had supported the In law" NCTraveler Apr 2015 #30
Darrell "Bubba" Wallace One_Life_To_Give Apr 2015 #28
Haha, bigotry SUCKS, Indiana. City Lights Mar 2015 #10
Woot alert results! Egnever Mar 2015 #11
lol @ the results Go Vols Mar 2015 #12
yeah, there are always people here gunning for me. that's fine. cali Apr 2015 #21
Actions speak louder than words Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #13

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. NASCAR is changing. Jeff Gordon is a liberal.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:44 PM
Mar 2015

As the sport gets new blood the odds are more and more liberals soon.

Having said that I admit I am surprised they did this, you can be sure Jeff had something to do with it.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
3. Indeed. Been watching since '64. I do miss those big blocks accelerating to the green...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:51 PM
Mar 2015

an example of an extinct sound, like a 4-engine piston plane overhead.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Portland, Indy...Fathers Day, around 1990...Michael beats Mario, on fathers day (not NASCAR)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:47 PM
Apr 2015


what I will never forget is the sound of those engines when they would down shift and up shift coming out of a corner where they had to go all the way down to first gear then into the straight

WHAAAAAAAA

WHA

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA




almost as good as sex
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
27. I can't metaphorically compare the sound of those huge V-8s accelerating. Even the new, smaller
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:04 PM
Apr 2015

ones don't match up. Several, tandem diesel locomotives ascending a grade approaches the tone, but there was more.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
5. "Dale Earnhardt is spinning in his grave."
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:33 PM
Mar 2015

As seen on FR. They are going apocalyptic over Pence's turnaround and now NASCAR.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
9. Hypocrites.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:02 PM
Mar 2015

How many AA NASCAR drivers have there been? Answer only one serious driver. Wendell Scott and he last drove in 1973. There were a couple others but they were marginal. How many openly gay drivers? Sorry NASCAR you have no room to talk about equality or diversity.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
16. And that justifies it?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:59 PM
Mar 2015

That same exact statement could have been said and was said about every sport at one time.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
18. I'm trying to understand NASCAR's culpability in not having black drivers..
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:43 AM
Apr 2015

is it your belief that they are actively working to ensure that there are no black drivers? or could it be that racing is incredibly expensive, and is typically a sport run by multiple generations of families? what would you propose that would get more people of color involved in motorsport?

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
19. Ok, it will always be white. Let's move on.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:51 AM
Apr 2015

I am sure there has been no discrimination whatsoever. Oh and I know your next statement will be "Show me specifically where and who they discriminated against." Odd that standard is not used in other areas of our society but NASCAR gets a pass. And then it will be "tracks are in the rural areas not in the inner city", which is of course the same thing they said about golf courses as the reason blacks could not play in that sport.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
20. that's a rather defeatist attitude..
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:55 AM
Apr 2015

the same attitude many had about hockey. I couldn't help but notice the lack of proposals in your reply that may get minorities interested and involved in motorsport.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. yep..
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:24 AM
Apr 2015

very talented driver. I was just reading a piece from 2007 that claims the greatest barrier to getting more black drivers in the field is the reluctance of team sponsors.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
25. Formula 1 is not NASCAR which is what I posted on.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:50 AM
Apr 2015

And is what this thread was about. I suspect you know that....

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
17. It is a very homogenous sport.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:18 PM
Mar 2015

That said, it's becoming less so at the lower levels of the sport.

This is Darrell "Bubba" Wallace Jr.


Having dominated the Camping World Truck series last year in his 2nd full season of competition, he is now racing in the XFinity series (that would basically be the high minor-leagues of NASCAR) and putting on a strong showing, currently 5th in the standings...he is likely to make the jump to Sprint Cup next season and is the early odds-on favorite for RoY.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Many AA NASCAR drivers, most not currently full time.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:02 AM
Apr 2015

They have invested large amounts of money to make that happen. These racecar drivers are working their way up from the bottom and creating the NASCAR of tomorrow. These drivers aren't at the top yet. They will get there. NASCAR has done a great job over the last decade of being an inclusive organization. From the pit crew to front office positions to on the track. This is a great statement by them under any conditions.

"Sorry NASCAR you have no room to talk about equality or diversity."

It is a daily conversation in NASCAR. You clearly aren't aware of that. You should at least be honest about those who are truly trying to embrace diversity. They put their money where their mouth is and have done so for over a decade in this area. And yes, there will always be a conservative bent to the sport from the fan side.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
29. If NASCAR had supported the IN law
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:01 PM
Apr 2015

this thread would be full of posts denouncing NASCAR (and their fans) for being almost all white. It would be full of red-neck slurs. I like to look at institutions as they are, not on what law they support or oppose based on what they think PR requires at that particular moment.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. "If NASCAR had supported the In law"
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:04 PM
Apr 2015

They don't.

If EW supported Bush she wouldn't be a heavyweight in the Democratic Party.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
28. Darrell "Bubba" Wallace
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:31 PM
Apr 2015

Darrell has caught quite a bit of attention on the NASCAR circuit. Wouldn't be surprised to see him take Biffle's spot when he retires. Probably move up to Cup in 2017 or 2018.

NASCAR knows where the advertising dollars come from. It's why they have been supporting increasing diversity.It why you see talent like Danial Suarez from the Mexico series, and previously people like Miguel Paludo, and a driver or two from Europe running for KBM (Kyle Bush Motorsports) a couple years ago.

On edit
Kimi Räikkönen drove a couple races looks like 2011

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
11. Woot alert results!
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:42 PM
Mar 2015

Looks like someone might be gunning for you.


On Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:54 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The ultimate red neck beloved organization comes out in opposition to Indiana
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026442321

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Sorry, but I think it is rude to call an organization based on a stereotype such as 'Reneck' when there are supporters here at DU who enjoy NASCAR racing. Legendary racer Jeff Gordon is an Obama supporter and Nascar came out quickly to oppose Pence's law. I think it is rude to assume that all NASCAR fans are *REDNECKS* and it is insensitive to start a thread with a headline as such.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:58 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is not an easy call but red neck is a pejorative and it's not okay to use it just because it's being used on folks we don't like. But I will still vote to let it be.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Left alone, but not PC to use the term red neck anymore
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is a sport beloved by rednecks though - I don't think the OP was saying only Rednecks love NASCAR or liking NASCAR makes you a redneck, I think he was saying Rednecks love NASCAR. Which is demonstrably true. El Bryanto
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nah - doesn't need to be blocked.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
12. lol @ the results
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015
"This is not an easy call but red neck is a pejorative and it's not okay to use it just because it's being used on folks we don't like. But I will still vote to let it be. "


"Left alone, but not PC to use the term red neck anymore "



I know there are many here that like to dump on Rednecks,but as long as you continue to vote as we do ,I will put up with the ignorant redneck slurs.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. yeah, there are always people here gunning for me. that's fine.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:59 AM
Apr 2015

I fart in their general direction.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
13. Actions speak louder than words
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

Until they actually pull a race or two out of the state, it's just words.

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