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White people, don't forget to check your white privilege (Original Post) GummyBearz Apr 2015 OP
I wonder when this pivigage thing will upaloopa Apr 2015 #1
I don't really understand why you and others get upset at the mention of it el_bryanto Apr 2015 #2
I think you know why ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #4
You don't know anything about me. upaloopa Apr 2015 #7
I know what you by the comments you post. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #16
I am not upset with the mention of it upaloopa Apr 2015 #5
I guess it's lines like this el_bryanto Apr 2015 #10
From now on when I see the topic I will trash so upaloopa Apr 2015 #13
When I read it I thought it was meant upaloopa Apr 2015 #14
Just forget it. romanic Apr 2015 #11
Go to a few Freeper type sites, set up a poll qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #18
Republicans don't believe it exists AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #28
Because it is used as a club .. MicaelS Apr 2015 #27
Which is the "worse" club? Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #30
I think the "feel guilty" part is exactly is what is being demanded. MicaelS Apr 2015 #33
But that is your feeling. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #35
I respect you because of the thoughtful posts.. MicaelS Apr 2015 #37
I appreciate your comments and your willingness to listen. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #40
Beating someone over the head AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #31
Hey... Some folks find it hard to pass up the opportunity to be an ass... Oktober Apr 2015 #24
Thank you and I agree with you. akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #29
"the other one who got killed" oberliner Apr 2015 #43
It's the Dang Tax on the Cape Cod Tunnel that keeps it at only 10% nt One_Life_To_Give Apr 2015 #3
That's not how it works. nt MrScorpio Apr 2015 #6
No, but being Black will often reduce your income by an order of magnitude Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #8
I hear romanic Apr 2015 #9
If its a male/female thing you should get the full $50 GummyBearz Apr 2015 #12
I have no white in me. romanic Apr 2015 #17
The white folk getting angry with you wouldn't dare trade skin color or gender orientation with me. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #15
That is true. GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #19
Pity you don't understand the concept. It ain't about taxes. kwassa Apr 2015 #20
Oh damn! I forgot! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #21
You are so right, I forgot that one. Just go into Radio Shack, akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #23
You think you are funny, aren't you! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #22
Every day I curse the Gods that I was born white dissentient Apr 2015 #25
Now you are fucking with us, that is your white superiority coming out! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #26
Better to whip one's self as penance, than shot in the back eight times by someone else. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #36
We are preaching to the choir who only feel superior, black lives do not matter! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #38
It can be frustrating for sure. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #39
I understand where you are coming from. How do you teach a young akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #41
Is this a late April Fools joke? nt Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #32
I bet it is. Some people forget the date! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #34
Cue the facepalm DustyJoe Apr 2015 #42

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. I wonder when this pivigage thing will
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:43 PM
Apr 2015

wear out?
I really don't think most white people are in denial about the idea that minorities have had a tougher time in this country than white people as a whole. We did not have a civil rights movement for white people and we did not have affirmative action because there was no real need for it.
Many people need to keep the idea going that white people don't know of privilage and so I guess you will get replys to the OP.
If it is meant to be humor I don't think it is funny and I don't think you represent the view of most white people.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. I don't really understand why you and others get upset at the mention of it
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:47 PM
Apr 2015

Some people see the concept of white privilege as a valuable tool to understand the world we live in. Some people don't. But just mentioning it, particularly as part of a joke, . . . i don't get why that should bother you.

Bryant

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. I think you know why ...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:20 PM
Apr 2015

If "Them folk" would just let it go, then I don't have to consider whether what little I have, I actually earned.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. I am not upset with the mention of it
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:33 PM
Apr 2015

You should know that by now. If you read what I said instead of pushing your position.
You need for people to be upset that is the reason you say what you do.
Again I agree that there is white privilege. I disagree that most white people don't know they have it!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. I guess it's lines like this
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015
If it is meant to be humor I don't think it is funny and I don't think you represent the view of most white people.

That reads to me like you are upset or irritated at people mentioning it. I guess I was wrong.

Bryant

romanic

(2,841 posts)
11. Just forget it.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

Some posters will attack you if ur not lockstep with their gospel. It's pathetic.

qwlauren35

(6,147 posts)
18. Go to a few Freeper type sites, set up a poll
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:48 PM
Apr 2015

And see how many people have even HEARD of white privilege. Add people who have heard of it but think its ridiculous. Add people who are angered by it because black people are lazy. Add people who have heard of it, but think the road has evened out now that there's a black president.

DU is an anomaly. There are plenty of BLACK people who have never heard of the term "white privilege". But if someone started to explain it, most would nod. Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas would deny it. Oh, and Ben Carson.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
27. Because it is used as a club ..
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:16 AM
Apr 2015

To beat people over the head with. And people will only take getting lectured about the same points over and over for so long until they get fucking tired of it what's why. The phrase "Re-education camp" comes to mind. Get the point now?

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
30. Which is the "worse" club?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:24 AM
Apr 2015
Discussing "white privilege" or racism? It seems to me some are getting their feelings hurt because of discussions of white privilege, where as others are actually losing their lives because of racism. There are very few who "demand" someone who is white "feel guilty" about being born white, but rather most try to get others to understand the inherent 'rights' that are bestowed (or denied) on someone because of the color of their skin. It isn't a matter of "re-education" but one of actual education.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
33. I think the "feel guilty" part is exactly is what is being demanded.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:37 AM
Apr 2015

One of the biggest problems I have always perceived of the Left is alienating people within their own ranks. The phrase "circular firing squad" comes to mind. This topic is the latest of that type. And it is pretty obvious from the multiple past threads on this issue is that it is a one way street. Anytime anyone brings up the point that some working class poor white man is not privileged because he is poor, they get shouted down.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
35. But that is your feeling.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:47 AM
Apr 2015

No doubt there may be some who want "feeling guilty" as a part, but they are a small minority. It is actually whites who are expecting the result they should 'feel guilty.'

"Anytime anyone brings up the point that some working class poor white man is not privileged because he is poor, they get shouted down. "

Part of that is because there are two different issues in play. One is race and one is economic disparity. The problem comes because too many are misunderstanding "privilege" and only making it about money; it isn't. Poor, middle class, or rich, if you are white you have a 'privilege' based on the color of your skin and it can be very different than any 'privilege' one has or doesn't have based on economic situations.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
37. I respect you because of the thoughtful posts..
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:11 AM
Apr 2015

You make on many other issues. I will consider what you have said on this one.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
40. I appreciate your comments and your willingness to listen.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:41 AM
Apr 2015

Challenging our long held notions is always uncomfortable. Sometimes, we will stick to our guns, and other times, we have to reevaluate.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
31. Beating someone over the head
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:26 AM
Apr 2015

With something they have zero control over is just stupid, particularly when done to allies. Those who engage in such nonsense have an agenda, IMHO.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
24. Hey... Some folks find it hard to pass up the opportunity to be an ass...
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:05 AM
Apr 2015

... and then claim victimhood when asked about it.

Must be alluring...

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
29. Thank you and I agree with you.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:23 AM
Apr 2015

I remember when the Kennedy's (John) was running for President and he visited Appalachia and saw the conditions there, he was appalled. The majority of those people were whites and lived in abject poverty and his brother (not sure, the other one who got killed), vowed to make their lives better. Since then, no other President has stepped in to help those people. There was a documentary that Lisa Ling did and it was so sad. The guy who controlled the coal mines built a mansion and his rationale to Lisa Ling is that he was showing the people of Appalachia that they too could be rich, that was so much bull shit. The disparity in wealth all over the globe is sickening and one would think that the most powerful country in the world would help its people. And as for the native Indians, that is a whole different story.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
12. If its a male/female thing you should get the full $50
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:04 PM
Apr 2015

Maybe you aren't subtracting line 13904 from line 39158 on your form 2-K. Being male should get you that full $50

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. The white folk getting angry with you wouldn't dare trade skin color or gender orientation with me.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

And they know this damn well.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
20. Pity you don't understand the concept. It ain't about taxes.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:35 PM
Apr 2015

It is surprising how many are proud to speak from ignorance on DU, despite many links and other opportunities to learn.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
21. Oh damn! I forgot!
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:51 AM
Apr 2015

Oh well, I guess I will just have to suffer not being followed in stores, not being asked if they can touch my hair, not being addressed as "my brutha" despite them not knowing me, not wondering if that traffic stop will be my last, and the list goes on...

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
23. You are so right, I forgot that one. Just go into Radio Shack,
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:00 AM
Apr 2015

or any electronic store, they follow you like bed bugs!

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
22. You think you are funny, aren't you!
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:58 AM
Apr 2015

I don't think you are! Just look at cops on tv and there is your white privilege. Need I say more? They show that shit on TV for blacks to see that if they drive whilst black in a modest car, they stole it.

I really wish I could tell you how I feel, but someone is going to report me to the Admins. so you please have a nice white night and may you not get called over whilst driving as white!

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
25. Every day I curse the Gods that I was born white
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:08 AM
Apr 2015

I have white guilt, and beat myself silly with a whip as penance on a daily basis.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
26. Now you are fucking with us, that is your white superiority coming out!
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:11 AM
Apr 2015

You must be so proud of yourself!

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
36. Better to whip one's self as penance, than shot in the back eight times by someone else.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:50 AM
Apr 2015

What a curse we suffer.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
38. We are preaching to the choir who only feel superior, black lives do not matter!
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:29 AM
Apr 2015

Those folks can never understand and sometimes I shake my head at their stupidity! You know what, let them believe what they want. No point in educating the dunce. I once thought you can educate stupid, but not on here nor anywhere else. Stupid is stupid!

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
39. It can be frustrating for sure.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 04:36 AM
Apr 2015

Sometimes, it can be worth it. Other times, it is just like teaching a pig to waltz; maddening for both involved. I rarely focus on the "stupid" because, like you said, they can't be taught. However, the "ignorant", they can be taught. I can understand how some get confused, but there are more than a few who just don't want to "get it" as they are more focused on their own "persecution."

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
41. I understand where you are coming from. How do you teach a young
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:00 AM
Apr 2015

person to give up his/her seat on the bus or train that is clearly marked 'these seats are for the elderly' but the young folks are so intent on their iphones and clearly ignore the disabled person. That really riles me.

I am not a young person but I always give up my seat on the bus or the skytrain for an older person, a pregnant woman, etc. Social media is transforming the younger generation and if they are are future leaders, we need help.

I find it useless to advocate for civility and I compare it to the Jehovah witness people, they never give up. Every morning, rain or sun, they are there to give out their literature. You get beat down by the status quo and just try to exist, plus we all have our issues with our work life. You go to work, you get bullied, trampled on and you tell yourself, I have to hang in there as jobs are no longer accessible and with age, you are not a prime candidate. It is a vicious cycle. I now try to help people or charities that I deem fit. As for charities, that is another beef for me. Most charities sell your name and guess what, the CEO of some of those charities get almost 80% of your donation as their salaries.

You never know where to draw the line sometimes!

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