Bernie Sanders has zero respect for our political system?

[Playinghardball]

[PowerToThePeople]

1. Duh. Our political system is based on systematically lying to constituents. n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

2. The GOP really has a problem identifying satire.

Andy Borowitz, assholes.

[MADem]

20. So do some DUers, regrettably! nt

[daleanime]

22. In every ones defense....

Political Reality in this nation has gotten very hard to parody,

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

3. Somebody else had zero respect for our system and he was a genius

i see the first part of this is with Glen Beck, what?

[JonLP24]

6. LOL -- I posted a George Carlin video too after reading the OP

I knew I couldn't be the only one reminded of him these days

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

7. Mark Twain of our time

Think of how controversial it was to say these things on national TV

then AND now

Maher and the rest are so out of their element with him

[hifiguy]

9. George was a Great American Truth-Teller.

So is Bernie.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

10. If George told the truth, and he did. if George was right, and he was

then what does that tell us about Bernie?

It tells me that we will not be allowed to elect him, let's see if I am right.

I wont say that again because it is counterproductive, I know

[JonLP24]

12. The key word is illusions

Take the trickle down economics was the "horse and sparrow theory" from the 1800s responsible for so many recessions & the Great Depression plus the Panic of 1896 but still so many working class & poor buy into the idea that giving them tax cuts & lifting "job killing" regulations is good for them. Renamed, repackaged, & resold like a company after a scandal "supply-side economics" during the Reagan years. The options are from politicians that market their positions, often before & after primaries. When it comes to Bernie Sanders the illusions will be he's an extremist, he'll lose in a landslide, it will get very ugly -- I'm afraid that even though he is right on most of the basic ideas, will buy into the illusions.

So much of what he says can be mistaken as a conspiracy but I can't provide links backing up so much. When he says rich white owners (I'd say the rich in general) don't care about black people -- being in Kuwait & Iraq I've seen first hand experience the level this country doesn't care about poor black & brown people of Asia & Africa. Saudi Arabia & their neighbors especially so and the US backs them because when it comes to business they're practically Libertarians.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

13. Weird, in this 2001 show Maher says he believes in god, didnt know he did back then

[JonLP24]

14. This overall discussion reminds me of The Sunset Limited

I highly recommend the film if you never seen it. The setting is an broken down apartment somewhere north of Manhattan which the whole movie takes place in with Tommy Lee Jones Jr & Samuel Jackson who are at polar opposites of each other (the credits are "White&quot Jackson) and "Black&quot Jones)). Samuel L. Jackson is almost convincing as an evangelical -- meaning I'm ready to convert halfway through the film -- Jones is more of where I am at -- without revealing too much of a film built on dialogue George Carlin's "circling the drain" Tommy Lee Jones character details vividly where this all heading with the "world as a forced labor camp" eventually with humans causing their own destruction. Really depressing but that is the reality of the way he sees it & I think most people do except for the "illusions" with the religion aspect being a major focus of it.

[JonLP24]

4. I'm often reminded of this George Carlin on "bullshit" these days

on the subject of Bernie Sanders.

The part of introducing truth in politics the system would collapse but the whole thing is quite true

[hifiguy]

11. That is an astonishing amount of unvarnished truth

packed into 8-plus minutes.

[JonLP24]

15. I knew there was something missing

This was what I was looking for, an improved version of the same routine. The part that was lacking was the media & television as "bullshit junction" with the politics, advertising, business, etc and America being the leader in bullshit "high quality" bullshit but bullshit nonetheless

[cali]

5. Andy's really on a tear re Bernie. Love it.

[Gothmog]

8. I love good satire

[MADem]

16. Borowitz is usually pretty good--that little image, though, with his quote, doesn't do it for me.

I prefer a bit more context with my satire!

It looks like someone is hectoring him instead of indulging in humor. If one didn't know who Andy B. was, they might get all huffy and outraged.

I hope that wasn't the goal....


Here's the full column from which the "meme" was slightly misquoted:


http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/integrity-disqualifies-sanders-white-house

...According to some experts, the electoral system has developed a number of safeguards over the past few decades to prevent someone with independence and backbone from occupying the Presidency.

“Bernie Sanders’s failure to become a member of either major political party excludes him from the network of cronyism and backroom deals required under our system to be elected,” said Davis Logsdon, a political scientist at the University of Minnesota. “Though that failure alone would disqualify Sanders, the fact that he is not beholden to a major corporate interest or investment bank would also make him ineligible.”


Because of his ineligibility, Logsdon said, the Vermont Senator would be unable to fund-raise the one billion dollars required under the current system to run for President. “The best source of a billion dollars is billionaires, and Sanders has alienated them,” he said. “Clearly he didn’t think this through.”

Logsdon said that Sanders might persist in his quest for the White House despite his ineligibility but that such an effort would be doomed to fail. “Our political system has been refined over the years specifically to keep people like Bernie Sanders out of the White House,” he said. “The system works.”

[rhett o rick]

18. Sen Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination and scaring the hell out of Goldman-Sachs.

Sen Sanders opposes fracking. He wants to save our water sources. How do you feel about that?

Sen Sanders opposes sending American jobs oversea via the TPP. How do you feel about that?

On what issues do you disagree with Sen Sanders.

[MADem]

19. Obviously, you didn't take the point of my post. Try reading what i wrote, AGAIN.

Then read the article at the link I provided. Then try, real hard, to capture the point.

This post -- with the picture and the quote--could be taken more than one way. It's not about disagreeing with Senator Sanders, it's about posting a picture that is ambiguous in provenance and not explaining that the comment in the picture is satirical.

If the intent was humor and satire, the intent was ambiguous. My goal is simply to clear up that ambiguity.

You, apparently, want to fight about fracking and the TPP and accuse people of being in the tank for those things. That's not what this thread is about.

[Thespian2]

17. I am surprised.

I didn't realize the abject messes going on in localities, in states, and on the federal level could be called "systems"...single example...Richard TheDick Cheney causes the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people while he gets richer and richer...then the MSM calls on the murderer to explain what is wrong with the Obama administration...This is a system?...Really?

[Yallow]

21. I Just Gave Bernie Another $30

Just because he is the only candidate that truly speaks for me.