Let's try something on TPP, something a little different.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

TPP = bad

No doubt..........................



America will lose jobs to outsourcing every year with or without TPP, with TPP maybe less, I dont know, but forget that. Pretend there is no TPP on the table.

WHAT do WE do?

Are you willing to DEMAND your reps institute tariffs while raising taxes on the wealthy and corps so we can use that money to invest in mfg jobs here?

If not, What do WE do?

[leftofcool]

1. I've got a better idea.

Forget TPP, Mfg, tariffs, etal. Here is how you put Americans to work. You tax the wealthy and the corps, you set up a jobs program for infrastructure. The Dept of Interior send reps to all 50 states in major cities to start hiring. Everybody gets a fair shot at being hired. No big companies get to muzzle in on the deal. Everybody is hired by the Government on their own merit and abilities. You start with national infrastructure, bridges, railways, roads, National Parks, buildings etc...Once you get about 6 million people hired, then you start allocating money to the states and counties to do the same. Everybody who wants to work will have a job. You set the starting pay at 20.00 per hour at the lowest and higher for supervisors and highly skilled people. Even if all you can do is clean up the National Parks, there will be a job. We have plenty of money in this country to do this. Taxes, taxes, taxes! Workers in this country would be busy for 100 years.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

2. that too

[Nuclear Unicorn]

3. "Are you willing to DEMAND your reps institute tariffs"

I think the nature of FREE Trade Agreements eludes you.

[cali]

4. no.

Tariffs aren't the solution. That ship has sailed

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

5. So if we are unwilling to manufacture here, using tariffs and investment, thus

eliminating the need for trade agreements, using protectionism, etc.

What is the answer?

or eliminating the need for these type of trade agreements


You see if we are making most of what we buy, then we can make our own rules, but we will never be willing to do that.

[cali]

6. my problem with the tpp is more with

other aspects of it than with prospective job loss. We are not returning to a world where we will manufacture most of what we consume. That simply cannot be achieved. And you are talking about making many goods so expensive that they are out of reach for most consumers.