Hillary Clinton Speaks Out in Iowa on TPP: "I’ve been for trade deals, I’ve been against them"

Hillary concurs. She wants to see the actual trade deals. With some guidelines.

This is a punt?

Or just no newsworthy drama and conflict, until it gets ginned up.

"Hard Choices":

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She argued for TPP as secretary of state and in her 2014 memoir, "Hard Choices" but has been noncommittal since. She has said on this issue only that "any trade deal has to produce jobs and raise wages and increase prosperity and protect our security, and we have to do our part in making sure we have the capabilities and the skills to be competitive."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/10-questions-for-hillary-clinton/
So, after leaving office she professed support for it in her book, but now she needs to suddenly reverse course and she claims she's reserving judgment.

How is that not a lie?

Clear on it? yeah, right

and she has helped draft some of the TPP language...

So yeah, I trust her absolutely zero on this issue, and would prefer an open dialogue about the TPP to see if it'll just yet more job killing agreement that'll crash the economy.

So there you have it fellow dems.....total bullshit!

Or next month.

"right now I'm for any trade deal that's good and against any one that's bad and I don't know how I could be anymore plain than that".

The lack of transparency is astounding.

Yes? No?

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain

amendment, cut millions from Medicare to pay for lost jobs, but whatever, I guess addressing something she KNOWS about isn't in the plans for her campaign.

Anyhow, when will she get to see the final version? AFTER it is Fast Tracked? Because then all she can do is say 'OMG, I WISH I had seen this when I could have DONE something about it'.

I know they think we are all stupid.

What we are thanks to trusting them all for so long, is NOT stupid, but powerless now.

but anyway, we know she's gung ho on the TPP

she said nothing constructive about what she plans to do about all these issues she SAYS we have. 'We are going to have to do something about inequality'. Okay, we know that. I just listened to Bernie on Wolf Blitzer. When asked similar questions, he has a PLAN.

Anyhow, she is not my candidate, I'm just glad we have one who doesn't just list the problems, he also lists his solutions to the problems.

And that is where the focus needs to be. Getting Bernie's name out there so that it becomes as well known as Hillary's, because from what I see so far, that is the ONLY advantage she has right now.

and if Obama gets "Fast Track Authority" what difference does it make if she reads it "after the fact" when it's a Done Deal?

Will she say: "Elect Me" because if I'd known what was in that Agreement...I, as President, would have never asked for "Fast Track Authority." Which would be more a jab at Obama than why we should vote for her.

anything about it'? And WHY is she not chomping at the bit, like Warren and Brown and Sanders and others to KNOW what is in it so they CAN do something on behalf of the American people?

Sorry, but the phoniness is just too obvious for me, and the failure of our media to ask the right questions, it's like a watching badly behaved, spoiled children (politicians) being allowed to get away with more bad behavior by their adoring parents (our media) and then wondering why they behave the way they do.

"I am Entitled" line of thought. Because of all they went through with the RW during their Administration....she maybe feels that's a "Selling Point?" I could see it if she was promoting what Bernie Sanders & Elizabeth Warren are stumping for. But, not what she is currently doing in her Campaign, so far.

What a breath of fresh air Bernie's honesty is.

with that as the Title?

Was it Marvin Gaye? B.B. King?

I don't know....whatever...

Did you notice the shock and appreciation that a candidate was ACTUALLY ANSWERING THEIR QUESTIONS?

People have become so used to the scripted non-answers they routinely get from corporate politicians now that they are SHOCKED when a politician actually treats them with respect and answers honestly and with specifics:



[font size=2]Bernie is doing this nation a deeply important service. He's re-teaching American citizens what we have a right to expect from candidates in a representative political process.

His honesty and clarity re:policy expose by sheer contrast how corrupted into vapid, empty, fake democracy our elections have become in the hands of corporate politicians.[/font size]

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Sam Cooke - A Change Is Gonna Come (THE REAL VERSION; CD QUALITY; LYRICS)

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I was born by the river
In a little tent
And just like the river
I've been running ever since

It's been a long, long time coming
But I know a change gonna come
Oh, yes it will

It's been too hard living
But I'm afraid to die
I don't know what's up there beyond the sky
It's been a long, long time coming
But I know a change gonna come
Oh yes it will

I go to the movie, and I go downtown
Somebody keep tellin me "don't hang around"
It's been a long, a long time coming,
But i know a change gonna come
Oh yes it will

Then I go to my brother
I say brother help me please
But he winds up knocking me
Back down on my knees

There's been times that I thought
I wouldn't last for long
But now I think I'm able to carry on
It's been a long, long time coming
But I know a change is gonna come
Oh, yes it will


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Otis Redding - A Change Is Gonna Come

POWERFUL TOO.....

BLUES VERSION:

Thank you for that.

's and

Did you check out the Otis Redding rendition below Sam Cooke on Post with that You Tube version?

A contrast of Hope and Angst!

To steal from another thread...."Something's happening here..."

It does make a statement for sure when one listens to her speak... We hope for better.

sigh.

Don't get much clearer than that.

I like you too.

I'll wait for an answer.

On edit - as Senator, she did vote against CAFTA (which passed anyway).

Since 2001, Clinton has backed pacts with Jordan, Chile, Singapore, Australia, Morocco and Oman that were opposed by numerous labor, farming and environmental groups concerned that the deals contained insufficient safeguards for American workers and consumers.

As recently as November (Ed. - 2008 dateline), Clinton supported a free trade agreement negotiated by the Bush administration with Peru.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/12/nation/na-trade12

Not voting, of course, but as SOS loved TPP (apparently):

Obama's biggest hurdle in getting the trade deal approved was always his own party, as my colleague Russell Berman pointed out last week, when negotiators reached a deal to fast-track the TPP. What's changed is that the TPP has collided with the presidential race—in ways that are risky for Hillary Clinton. The problem for Clinton is that she has historically backed free-trade deals, and as secretary of state called the TPP "the gold standard in trade agreements." Yet her campaign's big push over the last week or two has been to prove her liberal bona fides. Many progressives still don't like NAFTA, a product of Bill Clinton's administration (actually, many Americans don't like NAFTA), and while Hillary Clinton still looks like a prohibitive favorite in the Democratic primary, rivals like O'Malley and Senator Bernie Sanders oppose it, as do the labor unions that are a major part of the Democratic coalition.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/democrats-produce-trade-discord/391224/

So, that's one she's on the record as opposing, seven (including NAFTA) she's supported, and one where we can't tell.

Locate that information and see how she voted and you can get your own answer.

To make a decision before the final agreement is premature.

And I have no doubt that TPP is being given extra "consideration" by the anti-Clinton crowd as it's a great wedge issue to beat any serious Dem over the head with.

She wasn't born yesterday and evidently she's not going to make this one easy for the swifties. Great, I support her statement. K'n'R

Yeah, clear as mud.