Fri May 22, 2015, 10:38 PM
sendero (28,552 posts)
The simple person's guide to the TPP
For 7 or so years, the Republicans in congress have voted against anything president Obama wanted to to. Didn't matter if the thing he wanted to do was not really different from the thing they wanted to do, they just made a point of voting against him.
Then along comes the TPP and fast track authority. Suddenly, they are fluffy bunnies. They want to vote WITH the president. Why is that?
It's simple.
It's because the TPP fits their overall agenda of enabling corporations at the expense of everyone else.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the TPP is not good for working Americans. Republicans love it enough to agree with president Obama, something they just do not like to do no matter what.
All those folks who have suddenly showed up here explaining that trade agreements are good for everyone are nothing but fucking liars and probably paid liars at that.
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 The simple person's guide to the TPP (Original post) |
sendero |
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PowerToThePeople |
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840high |
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Kablooie |
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Hoyt |
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Rolando |
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bluesbassman |
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Hoyt |
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delrem |
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Hoyt |
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delrem |
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bluesbassman |
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Flying Squirrel |
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Hoyt |
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delrem |
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Jack Rabbit |
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delrem |
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Cha |
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:50 AM
bluesbassman (18,949 posts)
7. Because Teabaggers are an extreme fringe of the Republican Party...
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that hates President Obama wit a burning passion and would be against anything he is for.
Really, your rhetoric trying to tie Progressives and Liberals who oppose the TPP to Geabaggers is tiresome. Come up with some new material at least to shill for the TPP.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #12)
Sat May 23, 2015, 02:56 AM
bluesbassman (18,949 posts)
22. You've got it backwards.
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Republicans, who have consistantly resisted any proposal the President has put forth are now suddenly on board with thos one. You may wish to overlook that fact, but it is certainly a troubling scenario to many who are concerned with the TPP and it's long term objectives and ramifications.
Teabaggers would reject any Obama proposal out of hand so your implication that they share a common concern regarding the TPP with Progressives and Liberals is a strawman tactic.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:56 AM
Flying Squirrel (3,041 posts)
9. Teabaggers are more rabidly anti-Obama
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So it makes sense they would still be against it whereas there is a lower limit for non-teabag Republicans (obviously, otherwise they would not have pissed off the teabaggers by caving on the Gov't shutdown over Obamacare, among other things). It's disingenuous to suggest that the OP's logic is faulty just because the teabaggers aren't on board with Obama on the TPP like the most of the rest of the Repugs are. But you knew that.
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Response to sendero (Original post)
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:39 AM
Jack Rabbit (45,984 posts)
5. More Senate Democrats voted No today than voted Yes
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Every Republican voted Yes.
In 2006, Senator Lieberman was virtually read out of the Democratic Party by Democratic voters who refused to renominate him for another term in the Senate, feeling that his support for the war in Iraq and hawkish views on Middle East overall did not represent their values.
Lieberman held on to his seat by running as an independent. The Republican Party abandoned their own candidate to fund Lieberman's campaign and the Republicans further urged their voters to vote for Lieberman. Senator Lieberman won re-election with Republican money and Republican votes.
Today, President Obama became the Joe Lieberman of 2015.
Those on this board who support the TPP are within their rights to do so. However, they cannot say or even insinuate that those of us who oppose this deal are somehow disloyal. That just doesn't hold water.
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Response to sendero (Original post)
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:47 AM
DisgustipatedinCA (12,530 posts)
6. All the Republicans are for it, and it has NO natural constituency
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so when you see tools on DU defending it and talking about how they cry themselves to sleep thinking of Vietnamese farmers every night, someone is attempting to sell you a bill of goods. No one of normal income and station in life, and I mean no one, has any hope of gaining anything from this trade deal. There is no one at all telling themselves, "I think this will improve my lot in life". There are liars and fixers among us who are out to spread misinformation in an attempt to influence thinking. Guess what those people think about the rest of us. Hint: if they're willing to lie to your face repeatedly, they have no respect for you. And I have none for them. I wish I could say more.
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