Cluster Bombs Are Not Good For Children, Hillary
An important post from 2008:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x345179
RECOMMEND THE WHOLE ARTICLE AT: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/13/7655 /
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On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill–a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas–presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world.
The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children.
Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.
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Leslie Stahl: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Rodham-Clinton's mentor, the First Female Secretary of State Madeleine Albright then said:
"I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it."
The United States has been involved in and assisted in the overthrow of foreign governments (more recently termed "regime change"without the overt use of U.S. military force. Often, such operations are tasked to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
1 During the Cold War
1.1 Syria 1949
1.2 Iran 1953
1.3 Guatemala 1954
1.4 Tibet 1955–70s
1.5 Indonesia 1958
1.6 Cuba 1959
1.7 Iraq 1960–63
1.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960–65
1.9 Dominican Republic 1961
1.10 South Vietnam 1963
1.11 Brazil 1964
1.12 Chile 1970–73
1.13 Afghanistan 1979–89
1.14 Turkey 1980
1.15 Poland 1980–89
1.16 Nicaragua 1981–90
1.16.1 Destablization through CIA assets
1.16.2 Arming the Contras
2 Since the end of the Cold War
2.1 Iraq 1992–96
2.2 Venezuela 2002
2.3 Iran 2005–present
US Secretaries of State finish burying the latest victim of "Regime Change"
to be able to ascent in politics at the national level. So you see, she HAS to do things and vote for things to prove her toughness in order to help all those children she wants to help.
She has to promote things that kill the children in order to save them.
There is also one important thing that we often forget, in the end such things don't really matter, there is only one thing that matters and it's all about...
have devastated Iraq....Thanks Hillary!
And I'll ask again, did you read the bill/amendment (I linked to it in the other thread)? Once you have I'll be happy to discuss, until then I'll wait.
The world doesn't need a policeman that destroyes nations at whim and based on lies, overthrows gov'ts and causes millions of completely unnecessary and otherwise avoidable deaths, mutilations, homelessness, poverty, mass migrations, leaves behind DU and other waste that will go on deforming and killing for decades - cluster bombs that blow little childrens limbs off, etc. etc. etc. All while proclaiming the right to do so because of some trumped up piece of shit charge. Over and over and over. It never ends. But I guess when you're the world's largest weapons dealer and make trillions off war - it doesn't make sense not to get people to use them and then go in and claim to be 'keeping peace', right?
FUCK THAT SHIT. It may make you feel good to call yourself it, but it hasn't been true for decades (actually, it never was), and only right-wingers like to pretend illegal wars of aggression and 'interventions' to benefit the MIC, 1% and corporations that they're trying to control the world with are 'policing' anyone but those audacious enough to sit on recources - and especially those who use them to benefit their own citizen and keep out the foreign vultures.
Sick and tired of seeing it. 
And believe me, most of the world doesn't see 'you' as the world's policeman. Talk about fucking arrogance.
I just enjoy pointing out reality to the radical left. 
According to article 17 of the treaty, the convention entered into force "on the first day of the sixth month after the month in which the thirtieth instrument of ratification, acceptance, approval or accession has been deposited".[3] Since the thirtieth ratification was deposited during February 2010, the convention entered into force on 1 August 2010; by that point, 38 nations had ratified the treaty.
As the convention entered into force, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon spoke of "not only the world's collective revulsion at these abhorrent weapons, but also the power of collaboration among governments, civil society and the United Nations to change attitudes and policies on a threat faced by all humankind".[29] A spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross said "These weapons are a relic of the Cold War. They are a legacy that has to be eliminated because they increasingly won't work".[30] Nobel peace prize winner Jody Williams called the convention "the most important disarmament and humanitarian convention in over a decade".[30]
Anti-cluster munitions campaigners praised the rapid progress made in the adoption of the convention, and expressed hope that even non-signatories – such as the US, China and Russia – would be discouraged from using the weapons by the entry into force of the convention.[31] As one of the countries that did not ratify the treaty, the United States said that cluster bombs are a legal form of weapon, and that they had a "clear military utility in combat." It also said that compared to other types of weapons, cluster bombs are less harmful to civilians.[29]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster_Munitions
http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/images_4/us_terror_state__/girl_injured_by_us_bombing.jpe
You can shove your defense of these horrors straight up your ass.
