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Imagine if you will. . . a man who was completely well intended deeply inspired to serve after the death of his son.
Who once had an election to the second highest office in the land. Who upon seeing the election stolen, found out his kind wife of 30 years had terminal cancer.
None of us can well imagine those circumstances.
How can him seeking comfort be criminal?
It's repercussions had him seeking support for his subsequent paramour and resulting child.
None of us have walked in his shoes.
BTW- I was never swayed by him. But I know a bum deal when I see one.
He is not a criminal.
He may have had a breakdown. And who wouldn't have in those circumstances ? It's not criminal IMHO. It's human.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Americans who truly believed in him while all the while he KNEW that his candidacy wouldn't be sustainable. And if he didn't know he should have known.
It is that simple for me. I don't know his circumstances, I don't judge them. But I think it's damn criminal to steal money and he did take money under false pretenses.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... I liked his two America's theme before it was cool. I sent him money. I don't know what his relationship with his wife was really like, so I can't intelligently comment on his affair. But he screwed me good.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)And I don't have to walk a mile in his shoes to know basic right from wrong.
Maybe there's a hell, and he'll burn in it for what he did to his marriage; not for me to say. Maybe there's such a thing as karma, and he'll feel its full force for the unbelieveable arrogance and insensitivity he showed in betraying his family and his supporters because he couldn't resist a piece of tail; but, again, not for me to say. But I am a citizen, and so I do say: if he really did take campaign contributions under false pretenses and use them to support his mistress and bastard child, he should do time.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)He isn't being tried for adultery.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Funny, I thought it was called cheating and, while not criminal, is cause for much derision in that he emotionally hurt his family by his actions - not just his wife, but the children of his wife who did not want her to suffer any more than she was with the cancer.
FWIW, he is not on trial for cheating on his wife. Ironically, he's on trial for cheating a donor out of money that he was not allowed to use for the purposes of covering up his cheating on his wife.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)He's still slime
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)You know who needed comfort? His wife needed comfort. People who have terminal cancer need comfort.
John Edwards acted like a slime toward his sick wife. I have no sympathy for him in that regard at all. None.
As for criminal acts, I'll leave that to a jury and court.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)bullshit, he is responsible for his own actions, and his actions show him to be a little worm, hope he gets the book thrown at him! Sick of the apologists for this scumbag.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)care for a truffle my dear?
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)But, don't you have a hair appointment with that new $4,000 stylist?
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)What he may have done as a human being, is not relevant. Did he knowingly spend campaign funds illegally?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)She was nothing but the other woman. The third wheel in a MARRIAGE. John is scum. Rielle isn't any better. The little girl deserves so much more than this and I hope she grows up well out of the eye of the camera, but with those 2 as parents there's little hope of that and that's their fault.
The jury will decide on the criminal charges.
cali
(114,904 posts)I don't know if he's a criminal. Neither do you. He isn't being prosecuted for fucking Rielle Hunter. He's being prosecuted for misusing campaign funds. I have my doubts about the case, but you are not describing it accurately.
Do I judge JE? You bet I do. Not so much for his cheating on his dying wife, but for his being a complete phony and a shameless liar and for using poor people as his campaign hook.
That fuckwad went to "work" for a sleazy hedge fund and when questioned about it, he said he was trying to learn about poverty.
This is a man who was completely driven by his own smarm ego and he wasn't above using his dead son to get what he wanted.
" Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else -- that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before -- and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again. "
From Robert Shrum's book "No Excuses".
He didn't have a fucking breakdown. He's a vile little man who's caused much suffering.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)It's kind of how I felt after listening to him over and over again with his stories about his father. He'd tell the same stories and have the same expression on his face time after time. I started wondering how a person does that, never varying the story, always getting the face just right every single time.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)He threw it away by being a disloyal to his family piece of crap. He has an opportunity to redeem it, but never again in politics. Don't ever side him with people that care, like the rest of the Democratic Party. He messed up. I don't hate him, but he has not business showing his face amongst our party, period.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,663 posts)Fuck that guy. He had an affair that resulted in a child while his wife was dying of cancer. He lied to her, he lied to his campaign, he lied to his supporters, and he may have illegally used campaign contributions to cover up the affair - which is what the trial is about. He's not being tried for having an affair, though he deserves a thorough ass-kicking for that. "Seeking comfort"? Bullshit. His wife was dying of cancer; she needed comfort, not betrayal. If John needed comfort he should have gotten counseling or gone to church instead of sneaking around, fucking some flaky, self-absorbed, high-maintenance groupie.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Your a manly man.
Working hard for your family.
Its extremely stressful out there in the real world.
So why not bang one of our many escorts, relieve that stress, and then you can more effectively take care of your family.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)There's even a picture of the man you think so highly of- looking sad and somber.
cali
(114,904 posts)and I'm damn sick of seeing this piece of dog shit defended here.
jp11
(2,104 posts)What he did to his wife as I am not his wife, his son, his daughter, his father, his sister, his cousin, his friend, etc. That is on him, his own misdeeds, treachery, etc.
MY concern is him lying to the public and living in lala land thinking he could get away with it as if he'd have the same future had he not done this.
I find too many take these kinds of personal f'ups to heart as if they were the one who was wronged. We have a legitimate grievance as voters, americans, etc some as people who worked for the guy but not the same personal level I see many taking this kind of thing.
People are free to feel however they want and my feeling is I'm not the wife he cheated on when she was going through a horrible time in her life that was ONE person who is no longer alive and certainly not posting on a website forum.
tledford
(917 posts)yet at the same time this is a purely political hounding with no legal justification whatsoever to the "charges," as the FEC itself has declared.
If he is convicted, which is by no means certain, it will be overturned on appeal.
Lex
(34,108 posts)But they have jumped up and down on what a miserable ass he is. That's not hard, though.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i dont think so, with every sugarcoated sentence you made.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I guess at that point it occurred to Edwards that she would be a very suitable person to "seek comfort" from.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)meaning there was enough evidence for him to be found guilty of a crime.
What are you not understanding about that? No one is above the law.