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marble falls

(56,956 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:27 PM Jun 2015

Miami high school principal removed after social media post praising Texas cop in pool party video

Wed Jun 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM PDT
Miami high school principal removed after social media post praising Texas cop in pool party video

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Jen Hayden

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Alberto Iber and his Facebook post that caused the controversy

Alberto Iber is in hot water after took to the comments section of a Miami Herald article on the Texas pool party to defend the Texas officer who pulled a gun on unarmed teens:

The Miami-Dade County school district announced Wednesday that Alberto Iber had been removed as principal after going online to defend a white Texas police officer who waved a gun at black teens while responding to a call about an unruly pool party.

In a brief statement, the district said employees are required to conduct themselves, both personally and professionally, in a manner that represents the school district’s core values. The district said a replacement would be named shortly and that Iber would be reassigned to administrative duties.

<snip>

Alberto Iber sort of, kind of apologized:

When Iber realized his comment had caused outrage, he deleted it. Iber told New Times yesterday he did not realize the comment was linked to Facebook and would show his picture, name, and title.

“I regret that I posted the comment as it apparently upset people and became newsworthy,” Iber said. “It was not my intent.”

"Sorry if people were upset" is not a true apology. And thinking his comments were anonymous does not make the situation any better. Clearly Alberto Iber didn't really have any business managing the day-to-day functions of a school with a largely black student body. And now that he's on administrative duties with the school district, perhaps he'll have time to learn more on the students he is supposed to be serving and the daily challenges they face as young black men and women.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/10/1392135/-Miami-high-school-principal-removed-after-social-media-post-praising-Texas-cop-in-pool-party-video



What a cheesy right wingy sort of apology.

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Miami high school principal removed after social media post praising Texas cop in pool party video (Original Post) marble falls Jun 2015 OP
Ya gotta love how these idiots keep outing themselves, though. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #1
The summary of his 'apology'... Spazito Jun 2015 #2
I'm not sorry he got caught. A Miami HS will get a better principal now. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #3
and some charter school will get a twit for a principal. marble falls Jun 2015 #5
Yep, no doubt... Spazito Jun 2015 #7
The only one sorry he got caught was him... Spazito Jun 2015 #6
This makes me wonder about commenters on some of these things. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #4
Exactly. In positions where their obvious bias can and will affect others. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #14
Yep. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #21
I am glad this idiot was outed. nt Tipperary Jun 2015 #8
He has a future as a fox noose correspondent. muntrv Jun 2015 #9
FoX News' InSannity will for sure have him on to lament about how unfairly he was treated. nt Fla Dem Jun 2015 #46
What a great oops. Ya have to love social media for this stuff: Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #10
Actually, looks like he his gonna be in one those all-too-abundant bullshit administrator jobs kath Jun 2015 #47
That's awful, I hate that..damn. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #48
What a moron malaise Jun 2015 #11
Fortunately he was as stupid as he is racist. What the dummy doesn't get is it could have happened.. marble falls Jun 2015 #12
I don't like this kind of thing at all. christx30 Jun 2015 #13
That point escapes many here... nt B2G Jun 2015 #16
So are you patrolling your left wing friends facebook pages? Or suggesting that lefties make equally tenderfoot Jun 2015 #19
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to employers B2G Jun 2015 #20
Obviously the principal wasn't too bright. Hence getting dismissed. tenderfoot Jun 2015 #22
He expressed an opinion. christx30 Jun 2015 #24
I have zero sympathy for someone THAT stupid in a position of authority. Glad he outed himself. tenderfoot Jun 2015 #25
Until the day one of your posts christx30 Jun 2015 #27
I'll be sure that my status updates concerning my cat won't be offensive or racist in nature. tenderfoot Jun 2015 #31
You Sure You Thought This All The Way Through ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #34
Some bosses demand your Facebook password Oilwellian Jun 2015 #44
He expressed an opinion on social media. He gave up the private part of his opinion at that point... marble falls Jun 2015 #49
Because my radical leftist economic views are equivalent to a racist cop assaulting a teenaged girl? hunter Jun 2015 #23
Exactly. tenderfoot Jun 2015 #26
The nature of the opinion doesn't matter. christx30 Jun 2015 #28
And when it happens to you... tenderfoot Jun 2015 #33
Well, I don't share anything of my political opinions christx30 Jun 2015 #35
I imagine most people on DU are well aware of both the negative and positive consequences of speech LanternWaste Jun 2015 #36
It sure as hell does matter. hunter Jun 2015 #39
Does this guy have a record of doing that? n/t christx30 Jun 2015 #40
"This guy's comment relates directly to the responsibilities of his work." christx30 Jun 2015 #41
He didn't assault her. Orrex Jun 2015 #42
You know what. That "it goes both ways argument" is weak kcr Jun 2015 #30
I'm not saying to sit down and shut up. christx30 Jun 2015 #37
Yes, you are kcr Jun 2015 #38
Nice. Orrex Jun 2015 #43
And you could be fired for being a socialist. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #50
So why should racists and bigots get any protection? kcr Jun 2015 #51
I said none of that. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #55
No, I'm saying it n/t kcr Jun 2015 #57
Haha, well, that's true. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #58
But it's not just being fired for having an opinion kcr Jun 2015 #59
Yeah, I think I see what you're saying and I hope you're right. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #60
It is important not to have an unpopular opinion. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #54
LOL Mr Dixon Jun 2015 #15
these turd maggots out themselves on purpose olddots Jun 2015 #17
Support him on facebook!!!! tenderfoot Jun 2015 #18
This is a disturbing trend. Throd Jun 2015 #29
"He was afraid for his life" seems to be going around a lot. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #32
LOL...I tried the hood slide too Oilwellian Jun 2015 #45
I haven't ever done a barrel roll either. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #53
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #56
What was there to be afraid of? Jamastiene Jun 2015 #52

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Ya gotta love how these idiots keep outing themselves, though.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

I think they're so used to the rules not applying to them that they expect the Internet itself to give way to them.

Spazito

(50,075 posts)
6. The only one sorry he got caught was him...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jun 2015

and that's what his pathetic non-apology apology actually says.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. This makes me wonder about commenters on some of these things.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jun 2015

How many other jackasses are in positions of power who like to squirt out these hateful little comments from cover of anonymity.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. What a great oops. Ya have to love social media for this stuff:
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jun 2015

When Iber realized his comment had caused outrage, he deleted it. Iber told New Times yesterday he did not realize the comment was linked to Facebook and would show his picture, name, and title.

“I regret that I posted the comment as it apparently upset people and became newsworthy,” Iber said. “It was not my intent.”



Good bye, bigot..now you can stay safe at home with no job.

kath

(10,565 posts)
47. Actually, looks like he his gonna be in one those all-too-abundant bullshit administrator jobs
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015

That suck up such a huge amount of education budgets.
They should fire his racist ass.

marble falls

(56,956 posts)
12. Fortunately he was as stupid as he is racist. What the dummy doesn't get is it could have happened..
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jun 2015

to Hispanic kids at the same pool.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. I don't like this kind of thing at all.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:35 AM
Jun 2015

He expressed an opinion on a social media site, and was fired for that opinion.
Better hope your right wing boss isn't watching your Facebook for anything pro marriage equality.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
19. So are you patrolling your left wing friends facebook pages? Or suggesting that lefties make equally
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jun 2015

offensive statements?

Please cite examples?

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
22. Obviously the principal wasn't too bright. Hence getting dismissed.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jun 2015

Couldn't have happened to a nicer racist douche.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
24. He expressed an opinion.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jun 2015

It may have been an opinion that many here (including me) don't share, but it is his opinion.
I don't have to patrol my friends' facebooks. I have left leaning and right leaning people on my facebook. I see the pro marriage equality and reproductive rights posts, and the other side of the spectrum, just casually browsing.
What happens when my friend Bob Jones' boss, who went to a Right to Life meeting last week, from browsing facebook, and calling Bob into his office and firing him for his pro-choice post? Are you going to cheer for the boss getting rid of someone he doesn't agree with? Or because you agree with Bob's position on the issue, are you going to call the boss a bigot and suggest Bob sue his boss for something?

ProfessorGAC

(64,801 posts)
34. You Sure You Thought This All The Way Through
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jun 2015

Doesn't seem like it. You're confusing a lot of things:

First he's not fired. There is no clear evidence he will be completely terminated. You inferred that, although it's wrong.

Second, he is in a position of power, so is not merely an employee.

Third, he is supposed to be providing leadership to the school employees, which is also full of minority students. Expressing opinion that could be INTERPRETED as disparaging of minority students is purely dumb. It's not the opinion, it's the stupidity that got him in trouble.

Fourth, his employer didn't see the post and get angry with the opinion. You made that part up. He got suspended because the school district was reacting to the negative feedback from the community. That's nearly the opposite of what you keep parroting.

That's why, so far, nobody here is agreeing with you.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
44. Some bosses demand your Facebook password
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jun 2015

Firing people for social media fuck ups is the new norm in America and has been for quite some time. They can also extract our bodily fluids on demand, so your point is kinda silly. This guy was happy to see a gun pulled on black teens in bathing suits. He was the principal of a school that was almost entirely minority students. Please do explain why parents would now trust their minority child in his care. I'm sure your logic will be quite entertaining.

marble falls

(56,956 posts)
49. He expressed an opinion on social media. He gave up the private part of his opinion at that point...
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:38 PM
Jun 2015

He's being called out on his public opinion and that opinion was wrapped around his being a principal.

hunter

(38,300 posts)
23. Because my radical leftist economic views are equivalent to a racist cop assaulting a teenaged girl?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jun 2015

christx30

(6,241 posts)
28. The nature of the opinion doesn't matter.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jun 2015

Anyone can be fired for any post they make on social media. I don't post anything political at all on mine. I just post stuff about my kids and my dogs.
You're smiling about it now. But when it happens to you, or someone on our side of the spectrum, you won't be laughing about it.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
35. Well, I don't share anything of my political opinions
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

on facebook. Just pics of my dogs, and my kids.
Second, if it were to happen, I would be rightly horrified if my opinions, which have no bearing about my ability to do my job, expressed on my personal time at home, gets me fired. I'm horrified that it happens to anyone, whether it happens on the left or the right. The people that are cheering it, because they don't agree with the opinions being expressed, shock me. I don't want to give any side of the fight weapons that could be used against the other side.
The US is getting more and more polarized. If this kind of BS is allowed to stand, things are going to get a lot worse.
I hope this guy sues the pants off that school district.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. I imagine most people on DU are well aware of both the negative and positive consequences of speech
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

"But when it happens to you..."

I imagine most people on DU are well aware of both the negative and positive consequences of speech, and will temper what is said on a platform that is public and that employers have access to.

However I do realize there are half-witted people who believe speech is, or should be, consequence free... it's a very convenient position.

hunter

(38,300 posts)
39. It sure as hell does matter.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jun 2015

This guy's comment relates directly to the responsibilities of his work.

It's as if a food service worker posted on social media something like, "Heh, heh, the customer was a prick so I spit in his food"

If a school administrator thinks that's appropriate behavior for a cop, one can reasonably ask if he allows himself or his staff to treat students in a similar manner.




christx30

(6,241 posts)
41. "This guy's comment relates directly to the responsibilities of his work."
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jun 2015

Just remember this the next time a gay person is fired from a Catholic high school. The administration will most likely say about the same thing.

Orrex

(63,157 posts)
42. He didn't assault her.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jun 2015

He threw her violently to the ground and knelt on her back with his his full weight on both knees. Big difference, see?

kcr

(15,313 posts)
30. You know what. That "it goes both ways argument" is weak
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jun 2015

You know why? Because the benefit of not having racist bigots as principals of our schools is worth the risk. No, people do not have to sit down and shut up and stop demanding equality because "it might happen to them" When equality is achieved, then it lessens the chance that "the same thing will happen to you" That is just a scare tactic used by those who know the tide is turning. Don't listen to it. The fight is worth it.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
37. I'm not saying to sit down and shut up.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jun 2015

I'm saying that people shouldn't be fired for expressing a political opinion on social media. Your home life should be safe when it comes to your job. Unless you think it's ok for a non-smoking boss to be able to fire someone for smoking at home, as an example.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
38. Yes, you are
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jun 2015

He wasn't fired for expressing a political opinion. He was fired for being a racist.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
50. And you could be fired for being a socialist.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:26 AM
Jun 2015

I actually do agree that this teacher needed to go. I certainly don't want my kid in the woman's class. But, that doesn't mean that the counter argument is completely devoid of merit.

Edit: ....or at this guy's school. I thought I was on the teacher's thread for a minute. She is an even bigger piece of work. Don't want my child around either.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
51. So why should racists and bigots get any protection?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jun 2015

This is nothing new. Now that the balance is tipping more equally and it's getting more dangerous for racists and bigots to speak their mind, suddenly it's a bad thing? Please.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
58. Haha, well, that's true.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jun 2015

I just mean that I'm not implying that racists should be protected. I think having a conversation on when a person should be fired for speaking out and when they should not be, without it being left to the whims of the powers to be, is not a crazy/stupid/racist idea. I have an ultra conservative boss, so I think the topic of being fired for expressed opinions is interesting.

Like I said before, we don't want racists teaching our children, so I support these firings. But a lot of people don't want socialists, gays, or non-Christians teaching their children.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
59. But it's not just being fired for having an opinion
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jun 2015

Being a bigot in a position of power contributes to inequality. For a long time they've been getting away with it. Now, it's much harder for them because things are changing for the better. This is a good thing. Protection from your right wing boss does not have to mean tolerating bigots in positions of power. That is not true. You can feel empowered to stand up to your right wing boss and support equality.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
54. It is important not to have an unpopular opinion.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:26 AM
Jun 2015

I sure don't express them.

If your opinion is too unpopular, you can be excluded from the group for the unpopular opinion. If one finds they mistakenly have an unpopular opinion, find someone else who has transgressed more, highlight them and hopefully folks will forget about your unpipylar opinion.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
17. these turd maggots out themselves on purpose
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jun 2015

they want civil war and this is their to show show their true colors .

Buns_of_Fire

(17,144 posts)
32. "He was afraid for his life" seems to be going around a lot.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jun 2015

It makes me wonder how all of us schlubs without a sidearm, pepper spray, a tazer, two-way radio communications, and a shotgun in the trunk make it back alive after venturing outside. Heck, I don't even do a barrel-roll between me and the car. (I tried a Dukes of Hazzard slide on the hood of a car once, and only succeeded in ripping my pants and giving the neighborhood a good laugh. Damned hood ornaments, anyway.)

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
53. I haven't ever done a barrel roll either.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:19 AM
Jun 2015

It's a miracle I've lived this long. <----Do I need to add a tag?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
52. What was there to be afraid of?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

Black kids in swim suits? I don't get it. How do they justify in their own minds, their fear of black kids? I honestly don't understand. is wrong with these people that they fear unarmed black kids? They are just kids.

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