REALLY! !!! Niki Haley

[bigdarryl]

This is the same Governor who signed into law you can carry a gun in a.church and now she's in a press conference with her criccadle tears.I'm not buying her bullshit

[still_one]

1. Really. Then I agree with you

[CherokeeDem]

2. Me, either....

Not one damn bit.....

[Hoyt]

3. Supports guns in churches, and symbols of hate flying over the Capitol. Got her elected.

[niyad]

4. gee, niki, most of us can figure out why somebody would go into a church and murder people.

[montanacowboy]

5. She is a disgusting person

Such a shameful performance - I call bullshi

[me b zola]

6. She should use the confederate flag to wipe away her tears

Any photo shoppers?

[SummerSnow]

7. I would've call her out on that right in the middle of her phoney tears

[rhett o rick]

8. k & r. Thanks for posting. nm

[Vinca]

9. She's got blood on her hands.

Along with a whole lot of other politicians.

[Spazito]

11. Yeah, it's the victims' fault...

not the racist POS perpetrating a terrorist attack with a gun. Fucking bullshit.

Your post is disgusting but not surprising. Gotta protect them guns from 'attack', eh.

[bigdarryl]

13. And the President was in a news conference addressing the gun problems

In this country you could tell in his facial expression that he's sick and tired of going to wakes because of gun violence

[Spazito]

18. Yes, many Americans are tired of gun violence and want tighter gun control laws...

yet many still vote for republicans who are owned by the NRA ensuring less gun control laws.

[bigdarryl]

16. I'm a retired law enforcement officer and I don't carry a fucking gun

What for to prove you got a gun not worth my time

[mainstreetonce]

20. You have my respect,

We need more like you.

[Dont call me Shirley]

35. ....

[Spazito]

44. I wish more would do the same...

[JaneyVee]

12. Nice fairy-tale. When bullets are flying you don't shoot back.

[ScreamingMeemie]

14. Pretty sure that's exactly what Jesus would do...

[Marrah_G]

15. yeah, okay Rambo

[onehandle]

17. She's a pandering fake.

I hope she's term limited. She needs to disappear.

[daleanime]

22. +1

[we can do it]

19. What is a criccadle?

[Cali_Democrat]

23. crocodile. n/t

[demwing]

71. Half Cricket half crocodile

[we can do it]

83. Sounds about right.

[yardwork]

21. I'm right there with you.

[SCantiGOP]

24. As a South Carolinian let me warn you

Haley is a smart and politically astute version of Sarah Palin. She is just as corrupt and in the pocket of the Kochs and their crowd, but she can really handle herself on camera and is always well-prepared when she speaks. That makes her very dangerous. If the GOP ever nominated a moderate (for them) northerner for President she might be a good balance to appease the Tea Party.

She was running 4th in the GOP primary for Governor until guess who - Sarah the moron - came to town and endorsed her. Even the Republicans in the legislature despise her, which further endears her to the Tea Party.

[calimary]

25. Happy NOW, nikki?

I'd tell her to save her tears.

Don't cry to me about how awful it is - when you refuse to take that damn flag down off the state capitol building.

Take that damn flag DOWN and KEEP IT DOWN. Then maybe you can go grab your hankie. This is what can happen when one is allowed to carry a fucking GUN into CHURCH!!!! Was this supposedly one of those "good guys with guns"?

[asiliveandbreathe]

30. 1000 times infinity - TAKE DOWN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. It's not on the Capital Dome anymore...

It's in front on a Confederate soldier memorial that shouldn't be on the Capital Grounds either.

Check this memorial out in the North Georgia Mountains:



Stone Mountain. Called by some "The Confederate Mount Rushmore" depicts Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, and Jefferson Davis.



The Confederacy shouldn't be "celebrated" or "honored".

[heaven05]

48. Huge confederacy and later KKK

stronghold and living/meeting place post-civil war. Lived down in that area for a while. Chickamauga battlefield is down the road a piece from there......

[Spitfire of ATJ]

51. I read the KKK considered it an altar for cross burnings.

[heaven05]

53. yes, yes they did

still do I heard, but not much mentioned about it....

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. That's because now they worship tea bags.

[heaven05]

64. yeah

used up teabags at that

[Spitfire of ATJ]

67. Your handle and the discussion reminded me of a prior post I did...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12289462#post9

[heaven05]

69. definitely them

definitely them!!!!

[Amimnoch]

42. One of those times I wish I could rec an individual response.

Perfectly stated.

[notadmblnd]

26. And her answer to this; Pray more

yeah, that ought to do it

[Kalidurga]

27. If you took all the bullshit out of the Republican platform/party

they would be reduced to making grunting noises. Which would actually make them sound smarter.

[Enthusiast]

29. Pfft!

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL] That's funny but true.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

34. LoL!

I needed a laugh. The other alternative is to run through a plate glass window.

[Enthusiast]

28. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! And I'm not buying her bullshit!

[kimbutgar]

31. We're talking about it here. but will the MSM point this out?

Hell no. In two days this will forgotten and some other A-hole will do this again. maybe not in a Church but a mall, supermarket, park, sporting event etc. These open carry laws need to be repealed. And yes, as several previous posters pointed out she has blood on her hands for signing these gun laws.

Oh I forget right winger have no conscience. Nikki will go to the funerals, and Fox will say she is a great leader and then she will go back to being the corporate right wing minion.

[asiliveandbreathe]

32. send nikki an answer to her question - Motive?????

She is online....

[rurallib]

33. she cries because she's afraid someone may figure out the link between

Republican hate speech, the flag of treason and guns guns guns everywhere.
Then she will realize that people like her can no longer keep getting re-elected.

[George II]

36. That crying bit looked a little contrived to me.

[Dont call me Shirley]

37. BooHooNikki...

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh6.ggpht.com/rUyjyC-B6IOroMmbc1YNImJbCsFAbqyV6I0lMOYvIQYFT57arMKtc2TzCKcexhUTYhydL5gyku7EWLiKB8LaeAfzIxjb%253Ds0&imgrefurl=http://www.sketchport.com/drawing/4599282053152768/crocodile-tears&h=839&w=1600&tbnid=q1E3FWpHuxZMFM:&zoom=1&docid=PLDainqiZtT7TM&hl=en-US&ei=phGDVcrUAsuXsAWJ-ILABg&tbm=isch&ved=0CEgQMygZMBk

[Nuclear Unicorn]

38. Are you suggesting gun free zones work?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

41. Have you flown lately?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

43. You want a massive TSA-like security state to cover all GFZs?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

46. I'm picturing metal detectors at churches now.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

47. They're detecors, not force fields. All they can do is go "beep" before the shooting starts.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. This guy didn't come in blazing away.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

50. This guy. Though nothing would have stopped him from doing just that.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. This guy sat with them for an HOUR before he started shooting.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

56. He did so knowing he was going to kill them. A detector wasn't going to render him powerless.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. It would have warned everyone.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

61. Yes, it would go "beep" just before he started shooting.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

63. I repeat, he didn't come in blazing away. This wasn't like in "Kill Bill".

[Nuclear Unicorn]

65. You don't think he wouldn't modify his course of action based on his intentions?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

68. For all we know he could have turned and run away.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

70. Oh brother.

[KT2000]

79. he would not have gained entry

to the church.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

81. Metal detectors don't come with force fields. He would have to have been physically stopped.

[uponit7771]

57. Yes... yes they do... and TSA doesn't work either.. their hit record is horrible

[Nuclear Unicorn]

58. Where do GFZs work?

[uponit7771]

76. In reducing gun violence? Australia...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

78. Gun violence only? How about all violence?

[uponit7771]

80. I don't know if a GFZ can affect racism, sexism or any of the other type of non physical violence

... that occurs daily but every little bit helps

[Nuclear Unicorn]

82. Amanda Collins might beg to differ.

[Erose999]

86. Are you suggesting "guns everywhere" works? Governor Haley passed "guns in churches" very recently.

The parishioners who were murdered were not in a gun free zone.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

87. If only Haley hadn't signed that law the killer would have realized it would be illegal for him

to enter the church with guns to murder people.



Meanwhile, a few years ago a killer entered a church in Colorado Springs intent on a rampage killing. An armed parishioner shot him.

[Octafish]

40. Dodge City had a Deadline

[Nuclear Unicorn]

45. I'm always struck curious when the CTers insist the government be given a monopoly on force

[Octafish]

75. You're the one who wrote: Octafish hides behind ''cutesy, deliberately obtuse non-posts.''

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026686229#post143

Compare with: "I'm always struck curious when the CTers insist the government be given a monopoly on force"

Writing that I insist the government be given a monopoly on violence sounds like you want to denigrate me for mentioning realistic gun laws used to keep the peace in the Wild West days.

http://www.kansashistory.us/fordco/dodgecity.html

What's interesting in your comments Nuclear Unicorn is that if you were struck curious by anything you would know more, such as the difference between a warranted conspiracy theory and an unwarranted conspiracy theory or a put down and a tell.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

77. My statements do not contradict each other.

You, on the other hand, trust the government -- until you don't.

Let's disarm and then rely on the electronically elected, centralized media controlling, minority killing government to keep us all safe. They'd never lie to us about using force.

Right?

[uponit7771]

54. South Carolina Does Not have a law against hate crime

[aikoaiko]

55. When did this happen, because online sources say churches are gun-free even with a permit

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/open-and-concealed-gun-carry-laws-south-carolina.htm

Situations or Circumstances Where Carrying a Gun is Illegal

The following rules govern when you may not carry a gun in South Carolina.

Unless you are in your house, place of business, or on your own property, you may not carry a firearm without a concealed carry permit. (S.C. Code Ann.§ 16-23-20.)
You may not carry a firearm (openly or concealed) on another person’s property if that person has prohibited it. (S.C. Code Ann.§ 23-31-220.)
You may not carry a firearm in a jail, prison, or detention facility. (S.C. Code Ann.§ 24-13-440.)
You may not carry a firearm on school premises (including day care and preschool facilities), in law enforcement offices or facilities, in court facilities, at polling places on election days, in churches or other religious sanctuaries,or in hospitals or medical facilities. (S.C. Code Ann.§ 23-31-215.)

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c031.php

[uponit7771]

62. My understanding is Haley JUST... JUST signed a law where churches could have guns

[Erose999]

66. "I'll pray for you" - These people were gunned down in their church. I don't think it was a lack of

prayer that was the problem. I loathe the "I'll pray for you" response from government officials. Its really a cop out. Nikki Haley isn't going to do a god damn thing about this or any other shooting in her state.

[GeorgeGist]

85. And neither is god.

[samsingh]

72. neither am i

[mac56]

73. I'm not a gun hugger, so don't start. But South Carolina doesn't allow free carry in church.

South Carolina forbids residents with concealed-carry permits to bring their weapons into a church or “other established religious sanctuary” without “express permission” from a church official or other authority affiliated with the institution. In 2011, a bill that would have allowed people to carry their concealed weapons in churches and other houses of worship failed in the South Carolina legislature.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/south-carolina-gun-laws_n_7614354.html

[rtracey]

74. not to make light

Not to make light of this or ANY mass murder, but can you show me where the South Carolina law allows guns in church. Can you give me a link to the law. I have been searching and have come up with the law forbids guns in church.....just a clearification...thanks. I have seen this statement though, so I am confused over this thread title...."It is illegal to carry a concealed handgun in a church in South Carolina without specific permission from the local clergy

[Skittles]

84. the confederate flag at her work place