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Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:56 AM

The Racist Planned the hate crime for six months

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/dylann-roof-was-planning-attack_n_7616638.html

Dalton Tyler told ABC News that he'd known Roof for at least seven months, and that the 21-year-old was "planning something like that for six months."

ABC reports:

“He was big into segregation and other stuff,” Tyler said. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.”

Tyler said he met Roof, a Lexington, South Carolina native, through a good friend. He also said Roof’s parents, with whom he said the suspect was “on and off,” had previously bought him a gun but never allowed him to take it with him until this past week.



Many of Roof's family members have repeatedly declined to comment on the 21-year-old suspect, but his friends, previous police reports and his uncle have painted a picture of a shut-in with no job and plenty of anger.



*Another snippet:
A childhood friend with whom Roof had recently become reacquainted said Roof started railing about the Trayvon Martin case in recent weeks, complaining about black people "taking over the world" and about the need for someone to do something about it for the sake of "the white race."



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Reply The Racist Planned the hate crime for six months (Original post)
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 OP
BainsBane Jun 2015 #1
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #4
blm Jun 2015 #2
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3
LeftinOH Jun 2015 #5
LiberalLoner Jun 2015 #6
blm Jun 2015 #7
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #9
Jamastiene Jun 2015 #11
tridim Jun 2015 #13
Bethany Rockafella Jun 2015 #18
myrna minx Jun 2015 #25
Warpy Jun 2015 #29
Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #8
Jamastiene Jun 2015 #10
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #12
Jamastiene Jun 2015 #15
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #16
Jamastiene Jun 2015 #33
HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #31
Jamastiene Jun 2015 #32
whathehell Jun 2015 #30
aikoaiko Jun 2015 #14
Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #17
lovemydog Jun 2015 #19
freshwest Jun 2015 #20
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #23
freshwest Jun 2015 #37
myrna minx Jun 2015 #26
freshwest Jun 2015 #34
myrna minx Jun 2015 #35
AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #21
DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #28
JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #36
gollygee Jun 2015 #22
Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #24
ladjf Jun 2015 #27

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:04 AM

1. Why didn't this fool of a roommate call the police?

Black people taking over the world because .... Obama and Beyonce.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:07 AM

4. Because . . .

Americaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:05 AM

2. "Race Wars" - White supremacists have been planning it for years.

Many links here from March thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026864997

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Response to blm (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:07 AM

3. Thanks for that

I added my post to it - to my journal. Going to grab a salad then come back and check out your links.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:08 AM

5. The nature of Roof's dialogue with others...

and the fact that none of the people in his orbit seemed to be terribly put off by it - says a lot about how completely 'normal' such sentiments must be within a certain sub-set of American culture.

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:12 AM

6. +1

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:13 AM

7. Normal to them because they've been hearing about upcoming 'race wars' for decades.

With Obama in WH they are now focusing quite clearly on making it happen.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026864997

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:40 AM

9. Thanks for this idea!

I think you are on to something.

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:44 AM

11. +1000000

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:57 AM

13. Faux, hate radio and Republican politicians remind them every day that it is normal. nt

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:26 PM

18. Agree...

For certain people that is normal talk and nothing to be concerned about.

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:52 PM

25. Chillingly true.

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:10 PM

29. Bigots tend to associate only with each other

so they can pretend their nonsensical and hatred ridden thinking is "just plain common sense."

They tend to avoid non bigots because they get tired of answering the question "What the fuck is the matter with you?"

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:13 AM

8. And no one said anything?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:43 AM

10. I wish they would arrest the roommate for being

an accessory before the fact. He knew and didn't turn him in. If he seriously thought the racist shooter was serious about it, he should have turned him in.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:57 AM

12. That could be dangerous though

For example- I know today that Rick Santorum is basically egging Christians on to start killing people - because according to him - this punk killed Christians. It was all about Jesus.

Would I have to turn him in.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:06 PM

15. I see what you are saying, but

if the guy knew about these plans and didn't turn him in, isn't he really an accessory before the fact? I REALLY miss Jackpine Radical on days like today when I have numerous legal questions.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:13 PM

16. I miss Jackpine too!

And misanthrope hasn't been well either - and always was great about talking us down!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:25 PM

33. So many good ones leaving us lately on DU.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:05 PM

31. The roommate may not have known specific plan.

 

Were there specific details the shooter disclosed, or was it wishfull thinking? While the roommate should answer questions about why he didn't report the shooter as a threat, it may be just a matter of he thought the shooter was just talking shit, not a concrete plan.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:24 PM

32. Good point.

In that case, if he didn't see any concrete plans or believed the shooter was just talking shit, they probably couldn't try to charge him as an accessory before the fact then. Very good point.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:18 PM

30. Me too. You hear this a lot after monstrous killings like this

The usual response to the obvious question is "I didn't think he was serious".

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:16 PM

17. Further cementing this as an act of terrorism.

If it was a 'spur of the moment' thing, it could still be terrorism, but that thought was placed into it, a target chosen, likely because of it's historical significance, only demonstrates this is really an act of terrorism directed at African-Americans.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:12 PM

19. Yes, a racist hate crime.

I don't know what world some people live in, where they hear it said by the murderer and everyone who knows him and they still try and come up with their own reasons from inside their cobwebbed minds.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:43 PM

20. 'A shut-in with no job and plenty of anger.' There will be some changes in his life now.

1: He'll still be a shut-in.*
2: He'll have a job in prison.
3: Whether he'll be angry is up to him.

*Unless Barber signs a death warrant, then none of that will happen. I don't even honor him with a name. He caused this:


On the morning after the mass killing at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, Lisa Doctor joins a prayer circle down the street from the church. David Goldman / AP

The targeting of Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal is particularly significant given its history and symbolism. One of the people killed was Clementa Pinckney, a South Carolina state senator and Methodist pastor at the church, and the youngest African African ever elected to South Carolina’s legislature. In a 2013 lecture posted on YouTube, Pinckney spoke about Emanuel A.M.E.’s significance to Charleston and the nation.

“Where you are is a very special place in Charleston,” Pinckney said in the lecture, addressing an audience of visitors to the church...

In a nutshell, you can say that the African American church—and in particular, in South Carolina—really has seen it as its responsibility and its ministry and its calling to be fully integrated and caring about the lives of its constituents and the general community... Many of us don't see ourselves as just a place where we come and worship, but as a beacon, and as a bearer of the culture, and a bearer of what makes us a people. But I like to say that this is not necessarily unique to us; it's really what America is all about.

Could we not argue that America is about freedom—whether we live it out or not—but it really is about freedom, equality and the pursuit of happiness, and that's what church is all about. Freedom to worship, and freedom from sin, freedom to be fully what God intends us to be, and freedom to have equality in the sight of God. And sometimes you gotta make noise to do that. Sometimes, you maybe have to die, like Denmark Vesey, to do that. Sometimes you have to march, and struggle, and be unpopular to do that.


http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/06/shooting-emanuel-ame-charleston/396209/?utm_source=SFTwitter

State Senator and Methodist pastor Clementa Pinckney was future presidential material.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:37 PM

23. You rock!

On point - all three of them.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:13 PM

37. LOL! I am a master of the blatantly obvious, no? n/t

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Response to freshwest (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:58 PM

26. That photo...the agony and heartbreak.

She brought tears to my eyes.

Have you made this article an op? If not, I think you should make your whole post an op. It's very powerful.

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:28 PM

34. I made a post out of it for you here:

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Response to freshwest (Reply #34)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:49 AM

35. Thank you. Your post is so profound - it needed it's own thread.

My heart aches. I can't even imagine.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:09 PM

21. "White Race" *chuckles*

White is an identity more than a race, unless you are talking about the Caucasoid skull people. Even then, what do asian Indians, Turkish people, and British people have in common in other things like culture?

Stupid racists.

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Response to AZ Progressive (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:10 PM

28. I'll see that truth and raise you one

Many of the self identifying 'white" people are of English descent. Now, even if you can trace your lineage 10 generations back, England is mixed.

it is a mixture of Celts, Germans, Romans, Vikings, and anyone else the Roman Empire could import. They did a lot of that, because,according to Cicero, the Britons were too stupid to be trained as slaves. Oh yes, this does cover all of that Saxon vs Norman stuff they mentioned in Ivanhoe, as the Saxons hates those uppity french Viking Normans that conquered them in 1066.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 20, 2015, 12:38 PM

36. Nailed it!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:35 PM

22. kkick

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:32 PM

24. K&R

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:03 PM

27. I'm not trying to claim that Roof is innocent of committing a heinous crime,

but he didn't make up all of that crap about the blacks "taking over the world" with his own brain. Some adults, that he looks up to,
have been preaching that to him all of his life. His brain has been reduced to "mush". He has become a robot.
If this crime were to be investigated thoroughly, the adult or adults that have been programming him will come to light. It could be family members, adult friends or media personalities. The man has been totally abused mentally. But, in the end, he is still a violent racist criminal and deserves a harsh sentence.

When they question him, they should ask him if he has ever heard adults talking about "blacks taking over" and if he says "yes" than find out who they are.




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