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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:44 PM Jun 2015

Gun control will end up just like the drug war, almost exclusively aimed at minorities and the poor

Meanwhile wealthy white males will remain coked up, heavily armed and completely unpunished.

The brutality and racism problems with the police will have to be fixed before handing them yet another tool to wield against the population or we all know what portion of the population is going to get that tool wielded against them most often and most brutally.

Twenty years from now all of the Very Serious People will be shocked, shocked that the result of gun control is many more minorities in private prisons on long sentences that rack up big profits for the corporations they work for at slave wages while gun ownership among wealthy whites has soared. We had no idea! We never intended! Very Serious People would never do something like that intentionally for mere personal gain! No one could possibly have predicted!

I expect if it was explained slowly enough even Doug Feith could understand.



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Gun control will end up just like the drug war, almost exclusively aimed at minorities and the poor (Original Post) Fumesucker Jun 2015 OP
That is a good enough excuse 4now Jun 2015 #1
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And of course any kind of regulation.... daleanime Jun 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #11
The police are to be disarmed at the same time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #3
Laws were never meant to apply to the rich. LAGC Jun 2015 #4
Hey man MFrohike Jun 2015 #5
Definitely.... daleanime Jun 2015 #9
There will be a huge black market... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #6
so the problem is racism not wanting gun control as we see europe still has racism but gun control JI7 Jun 2015 #7
this is bs, black people are not fighting police brutality by being armed JI7 Jun 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #12
how is tamir rice not a good example ? he was not carrying or doing anything illegal JI7 Jun 2015 #13
Just like with drugs it's black people who will be going to prison for guns Fumesucker Jun 2015 #14
that's racism, black people are always targeted for things including things they didn't do JI7 Jun 2015 #15
I'm pointing out the practical real world effects of policy you say you want Fumesucker Jun 2015 #16
if that was the case then we already would these gun control laws JI7 Jun 2015 #17
With the drug laws the racism was specifically stated when they were drawn up Fumesucker Jun 2015 #18
and yet no class of people runs about openly whiffing blow and if they did, they would be arrested Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #19
Except there are plenty of minorities among the police. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #22
This reads like a deflection maneuver against gun control. Paladin Jun 2015 #20
Unfortunatly most gun violence is perpetrated within poor minority populations madville Jun 2015 #21
That would be the result if some of the anti-gun extremists get their way Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #23

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Response to daleanime (Reply #8)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. The police are to be disarmed at the same time.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015

The ONLY time firearm-carry police should be on a scene is when a suspect is brandishing a firearm or has already fired shots.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
4. Laws were never meant to apply to the rich.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jun 2015

They are primarily a device to keep the lower-classes in their places, subservient and docile against all the mounting economic injustices levied against them.

There's a reason why the most prominent, outspoken key backers of gun control in this country are billionaires like Bloomberg and Gates. They've seen the writing on the wall. And the last thing they need is an armed populace of "have nots" pissed off and angry while the "haves" laugh all the way to the bank.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
5. Hey man
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jun 2015

It's more important to be seen doing something. Don't worry about actually doing anything and, even if you actually do something, don't worry about the facts! Those are just details!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. There will be a huge black market...
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jun 2015

Because big demand and no supply will create it. And of course the smugglers of guns will be well armed themselves. And although gun registration and regulation is pathetically low now, it would be zero then. The gun banners obviously haven't thought this through.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
7. so the problem is racism not wanting gun control as we see europe still has racism but gun control
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jun 2015

has helped .

JI7

(89,247 posts)
10. this is bs, black people are not fighting police brutality by being armed
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jun 2015

in fact they are often more assumed to be armed anyways and are shot . like tamir rice . and then the cops justify it by claiming they were armed.

only white people like bundy are able to fight off law enforcement by being armed.

Response to JI7 (Reply #10)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. Just like with drugs it's black people who will be going to prison for guns
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 05:31 AM
Jun 2015

Why would you expect different results when you leave the same enforcers in charge of guns as are in charge of all the other laws?

And of course the gun laws will have to be made more strict and more punitive because that's the way America rolls.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
15. that's racism, black people are always targeted for things including things they didn't do
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:18 AM
Jun 2015

you need to do something about racism .

black people are always stopped in their cars for alleged traffic violations or other things . your solution seems to be we shouldn't have traffic laws because of this instead of dealing with the actual issue .

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. I'm pointing out the practical real world effects of policy you say you want
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:29 AM
Jun 2015

The system was *designed* the way it is, it didn't get that way by accident.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
17. if that was the case then we already would these gun control laws
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:32 AM
Jun 2015

it's easy to blame the "system" as if there is some higher power when in reality people are just assholes .

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. With the drug laws the racism was specifically stated when they were drawn up
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 06:45 AM
Jun 2015

Cannabis was nicknamed marijuana so it could be demonized as a "Mexican" drug while for blacks it was cocaine that was supposed to impart superhuman physical powers.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. and yet no class of people runs about openly whiffing blow and if they did, they would be arrested
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 08:02 AM
Jun 2015

A gun, if used in the ways we don't care for, is openly used. Think about it. Your claim is that 'the rich' would be allowed to shoot the place up all the time? Really?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
22. Except there are plenty of minorities among the police.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

Case in point: the officers indicted in Baltimore.

I think what we're dealing with here is power that has become insulated because it has previously been allowed to grow unchallenged. In other words -- bullies.

Bundy didn't escape because he was white, he escaped because they were willing to challenge the bullies. And yes, the same holds true for people of color, i.e. the Huey P. Newton Gun Club --






madville

(7,408 posts)
21. Unfortunatly most gun violence is perpetrated within poor minority populations
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jun 2015

Specifically Black males against other black males, ages 18-24 per current DOJ statistics. If more strict gun regulations were enacted that group would receive the most attention from law enforcement since that is where most gun violence occurs thanks to the war on drugs.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
23. That would be the result if some of the anti-gun extremists get their way
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jun 2015

I support some common sense gun controls like background checks and stuff. But apparently there are some extremists who do want a new war on guns. It's just going to target poor people and minorities.

And also create a huge new gang problem as gangs step in to control the black market, just like with drugs.

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