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Posted on June 27, 2015 by Ametia
You know what? Fuck the media & their reports on ISIS.
There has been No coverage of the string of ARSON commited on Black churches. This is how some bitter, white folks are handling the push back on calling that murder Dylann Roof exactly what he is, a fucking white supremacist & racial terrorist, and the call to take down that racists flag.
These evil bastards just will NOT go gently into that that hot HELL they deserve. And of course they are COWARDS, doing their evil works in the nightime.(DARKNESS) And Black folks are labeled as dark & evil. The gull..
This is their response, MORE TERROR & VIOLENCE against Black people and their HOUSES OF WORSHIP.
More, A Lot More http://3chicspolitico.com/2015/06/27/fires-in-black-churches-in-four-southern-states-arson-suspected/
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We see you, we see you for who you are.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)but we had to know they wouldn't go away so easily.
For Freddie
(79 posts)I could not understand why CNN is beating the dead horse of the fugitives in northern New York as they are.
I knew it was some kind of fugazi distraction.
And here we are again.... Just like in the past.
Same old hate, bigotry, violence, stupidity.
It is their answer to Obama's powerful eulogy yesterday.
They can't do anything legally so they are going to keep going to
to push their "race war". And make no mistake, there is RW
money behind this.
They need to change the narrative away from the power of the eulogy and ruling yesterday. Away from the taking down of the flag. To them this IS war.
They WANT to cause violence, death, destruction and fear. And they are being allowed to do that. WATCH... this all precedes the "State's Right" narrative for RW candidates for the 2016 election.
Yesterday I made the mistake of engaging my right wing white cousin who transplanted his family from the north east to North Carolina home of Jesse Helm and Strom Thurmond because the white culture there make him feel "safe". He was raving about how
wonderful Scalia's brief was. To me it sounded demented and he was off his meds.
I realized this stuff goes very very deep and these kinds of attacks and violence are going to continue until the federal government intervenes. It's up to us to make sure it does. Everyone, write to the White House about this. OUT THIS, make a big stink until we get the attention and RESPECT this deserves.
There is desperation about the 2016 election. The RW need to create some kind of "crisis" where they receive the support
they feel they need to keep going. And that support is receding . Only desperation and self destruction is left for them. The right wing whipped this up and now here it is. You cannot use cross hairs on election posters like the RW has used in the past and not expect violence to escalate. It is a cynical agenda. This is just bullying and mean girls intimidation.
The issue of "states rights" is being pushed very hard. They WANT
a "race war". So... we will have to go to "Domestic Terrorism" on a federal level. They are desperately trying to build a narrative to cover the gerry manding so they can "appear' to win the election when they don't.. They are creating crisis.
This violence is part of building that narrative. The strategy of
of them being "victims" has been taken from them. To incite Federal intervention WOULD be a big talking point on Faux.
THIS is their push back. The only way to overcome this is UNITY.
HERE. For all of us, to write to the White House and to make this issue and these destructive hateful actions known. Write Rachel Maddow, write to Rev. Al,write to everyone until we see this story in the MSM.
UNITY and Action is what is needed. And if no one else is going to do it WE WILL! They feel they "have the guns", well as Jimmy Morrison said in the 60's WE HAVE THE NUMBERS. If a state can't or won't do the RIGHT THING,the lawful thing, then the Federal Government will have to. AGAIN.
As the Ramones said, "Hey Ho, Let's Go".
P.S. Check out James Comey on Wikipedia.
He is the head of the FBI and he says all of this
is NOT domestic terrorism? WHY?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Not saying you haven't, but they are pushing for an Article V convention from the state legislatures if they get enough, to repeal a lot of Amendments they don't like.
Also they are doing a sort of slow secession from the federal Union with the state laws. They also have been preparing for a civil war, for which they are arming and encouraging each other to train for protracted guerilla action fight the Feds, and all authorities.
They've become 'a breed apart' and they are kept in that state. The RW has been very busy.
Now many decent people did take to heart and are going to continue to call for and take down the American Swastika and stop other good things. But they can't do it alone.
Those willing to engage the legislatures of the nation will make the change, not those who don't. That means getting involved in EVERYTHING. The RW are involved in every aspect of our lives while others argue with each other and it done under our noses, as if it was a settled idea that we'd continue as we have with good things.
And yes, the media is owned by about half dozen billionaires who have done little but to edit, promote or degrade based on what their masters tell them.
Thanks for your post.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)As to the FBI and domestic terrorism , you should watch this DN segment if you haven't:
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/6/25/does_us_ignore_right_wing_terror
IMO, there's just no money in going after right-wing white terror-- not like Islamic terror.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The other three are still being investigated. South Carolina, Tallahassee, Knoxville, Macon GA: all fairly close together, within a few hundred miles.
okasha
(11,573 posts)No way any of them were accidental.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Well, to be fair....down here every where is close together. I can drive to any 5 Southern states in just a few hours, and be back in time for dinner.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Zero for the culture of racism and bigotry in America..... not covering racism and bigotry is racism and bigotry,
malaise
(268,713 posts)It is the truth
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Mr. Obama's Funeral Remarks,what do you expect,move along nothing to see.
malaise
(268,713 posts)and several cable channels did the same. Networks cut regular programing. CSpan showed the entire funeral three times.
I was pissed the the coverage of the two convicts for four hours in the afternoon when people had reached home, but both Rachel and Lemon repeated his eulogy uninterrupted
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Not a follow up on any of the M$M today. Mr. Obama's Eulogy was History making and if on looks at all the subtleties of today's News,the President's message shook this Nation to the core. Since our Fake Noise machines as usual failed to report what was truly happening,just another day nothing here move along.
malaise
(268,713 posts)A discussion on institutional racism and white supremacy following that eulogy was definitely required. They can run but they can't hide and that discussion is coming.
Bree's climbing that flag pole and the other young man with her will keep the discussion going.
I was amazed watching CNN how much they had on the Tunisian killer's family - only the Daily Mail covered Roofs family with that kind of detail.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)And,on the same token,all Scrippts.Gannett and other Rightee Papers just plain blew their chances of relevancy in the real world.
BumRushDaShow
(128,506 posts)History repeating..
http://www.cnn.com/US/9606/19/church.fire.stats/
http://publicgood.org/archives/white-supremacy-in-the-1990s/
Newsweek cover 1993 -
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)The hate has not changed. Just angry white men in need of holding on to the last vestiges of their White Privilege. In a few years, they will be the minority. They are terrified.
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Is this a coincidence? Probably not. What this story illustrates is how the white supremacist movement in America has learned to shift its tactics. No longer able to rely on open racism as an effective recruiting tactic, they have now found a more socially acceptable target for hate lesbians and gays.
Is this a new white supremacist movement? Does this mean they no longer hate people of color, Jews, feminists, immigrants, etc.? No and No. The number of hate crimes in this country is evidence that hatred still exists as a family value.
Hate groups in the mid-1990s are refocusing their energies. They are worried that they can never convince the majority of white Americans to join them in their netherworld. While many whites may share their prejudices, very few are willing to act on them by openly carrying a Klan calling card or an Uzi. This situation demands a new strategy that combines old hatreds with new rhetoric. White supremacists desperately need to reinvigorate their movement with new recruits by manipulating white fears into action.
http://publicgood.org/archives/white-supremacy-in-the-1990s/
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)That is the point. It hasn't QUIT happening because nothing is getting done about it. MSM points out the latest shiny thing and people get distracted. I would rather hear they are actually arresting people for these arsons than hear one more story about morons who go into waters off the coast of NC where they KNOW ALREADY that sharks are feeding right now. I hope no blonde girls go missing, because they will drag that out for ages and STILL not cover this. It needs to be seen, known, and something needs to be done about it.
BumRushDaShow
(128,506 posts)was you had David Duke pulling off the sheets and putting on a suit to make white supremacy and white power, "respectable". But because of the death and destruction during the period, a number of those groups were literally bankrupted, beginning with the KKK, and later going after Aryan Nation. The persistence essentially threw them back underground for awhile as they were being dismantled.
The one big difference between now and then is that now, you have a robust internet to get that info out because relying on the M$M to cover anything that doesn't "bleed" or goes missing off a radar, is a crap shoot.
The odd circumstance of this past Friday was the quandary that the media had with reporting the Supreme Court decisions the same day as a major Eulogy by the President after one of the worst racial attacks in generations, while there were "terrorist" attacks going on overseas... It was remarkable how any other time, "terra terra terra" would trump all for their coverage, but this time, it oddly did not.
burrowowl
(17,632 posts)And why no coverage?
malaise
(268,713 posts)deafening. They are more concerned with ISIS.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)brer cat
(24,524 posts)ISIS is a very handy distraction. They know exactly what they are doing, and they will continue to cover for the white man.
malaise
(268,713 posts)Very convenient
treestar
(82,383 posts)It could even be the same people going around doing it. I hope the FBI gets to the bottom of it.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And hopefully they're caught soon, if the FBI isn't too busy ginning up fake terrorists to prosecute.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)for the sick minds that we are seeing in this. Same as the Twin Towers was a target for the 9/11 terrorists.
iandhr
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How awful
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I don't think there's any doubt.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Cha
(296,857 posts)"These evil bastards just will NOT go gently into that that hot HELL they deserve. And of course they are COWARDS, doing their evil works in the nightime.(DARKNESS) And Black folks are labeled as dark & evil. The gull..
This is their response, MORE TERROR & VIOLENCE against Black people and their HOUSES OF WORSHIP."
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I had to counter it with Bree, she~
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)This is their response, MORE TERROR & VIOLENCE against Black people and their HOUSES OF WORSHIP."
Yes, Bree.
Now that is a beautiful image. Take it down Take it down Take it DOWN.
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Plus, MSM using the "shiny thing" style of reporting about the two bumbling idiot prison escapees that couldn't make it across state lines in all that time, like that is THE MOST IMPORTANT news they can find.
Another shiny thing: I don't want to hear about the idiots going into the water after knowing sharks are feeding in that area either. Just because NC's leadership is too damn dumb to close the beach in that area doesn't mean people have to be equally dumb and climb right in only to come out missing a limb and acting all shocked. Sharks are feeding there right now. Don't go in the water until they are gone. FFS, it's idiots getting in the water even though they know the sharks are there. That's not news. That is morons displaying moronic behavior.
I really hate to see this domestic terrorism continue, unchecked. There were hundreds of black church burnings in the 90s and they have steadily happened through the years. It was in the news a tiny bit, back then, then disappeared and no one did anything about it. People quit talking about it time and again, yet it keeps happening routinely. It needs to be stopped.
K&R, hoping to keep the dialogue and awareness alive so it won't still be this way 20 years from now, still happening with little coverage or action to put a stop to it, like it was 20 years ago. It just keeps happening and people forget it is happening because MSM knows how to make up shiny things to distract people from the real news.
It is so frustrating.
malaise
(268,713 posts)It will all come to a head - soon and very soon - inherent contradictions eventually lead to self destruction.
Thank you Jamastiene.
Yes, they love those shiny things. Turned them off forever after Natalie Holloway 24/7.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,568 posts)and not just a euphemistic "hate crime"?
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)the prevalence of white privilege....this is yet another example.
40RatRod
(532 posts)sheshe2
(83,654 posts)It is time to shine the light on them.
All bullies are.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Hell, they'll even claim the minister burned his own church down as a ploy to raise a TON of sympathy money.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)There was bound to be a reaction and it needs to be covered so the authorities are all over it via public pressure.
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)Will they cover it? Will they react. I have my doubts. I hate to say that.
In the wake of Obama's eulogy, has anything changed?
Tears.
Thank you for responding, let us see what we can do about this.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)but it looks like it will take action, they need to be leashed, legally and with social pressure. The younger generations will change things, they're impatient about things (see flag pole story!)
gollygee
(22,336 posts)allan01
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)skin color as the people I suspect that are guilty of these crimes. We have to step up and put a stop to this kind of terrorism.
Spazito
(50,161 posts)on any mainstream news outlets either on cable or the internet. Absolutely disgusting, imo. Without your OP I would have had no idea there had been so many, the media only covered one and that was for a 'microsecond' of air time.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)lburnhamah_198
(6 posts)After 50 years of legislation and reform brought on by the Civil Rights movement, you would think that this country would become more tolerant and enlightened. This nasty incident shows that's simply not the case. I fear that this display of violence is just a preview of even more tragic events to come in the near future. Scary times we are living in.
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)When I saw it on TV and heard that it was a black church, I pretty much knew it was arson. This is the same county that gave us Lee Atwater...
napkinz
(17,199 posts)"It would be a betrayal of everything Reverend Pinckney stood for, I believe, if we allowed ourselves to slip into a comfortable silence again.
"Once the eulogies have been delivered, once the TV cameras move on, to go back to business as usual thats what we so often do to avoid uncomfortable truths about the prejudice that still infects our society. To settle for symbolic gestures without following up with the hard work of more lasting change thats how we lose our way again."
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)I hope the rest of us get it too.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)the others, not so much.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)napkinz
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Black Church Near Charleston Sixth to Burn in 10 DaysWednesday, July 01, 2015
A historic black church just north of Charleston, South Carolina was on fire Tuesday night, making it the sixth predominantly black church in the United States to burn in the less than two weeks since a white supremacist massacred nine people, all of them African-American, at their parish.
This is not the first time the Mount Zion African Methodist Episcopal church in Greeleyville, a town of 400 people, has caught ablaze. In 1995 the Klu Klux Klan burned it down, almost 20 years to the date before Tuesday's inferno.
It is believed that no one was inside at the time of Tuesday's fire. The chief of the South Carolina Enforcement Division, Mark Keel, told the New York Times that it was too early to determine cause of the blaze.
Many suspect that the string of fires is part of an anti-black backlash in the wake of the white supremacist killings at Charleston's Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church on June 17.
read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/07/01/black-church-near-charleston-sixth-burn-10-days