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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:01 PM Jul 2015

If only guns could be dropped as quickly as the Confederate flag

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Always in this country, the worst that can happen brings out the best in us. It happened on Sept. 12, 2001, when New York City started to get back up. It happens this time in South Carolina, where the Confederate flag, a symbol of racism and hate, finally comes down once and for all. From now on, the only people still clinging to the notion of that flag honoring courage of Southern soldiers will sound like weird, bigoted members of the Flat Earth Society.

The flag was lowered Friday morning. Seven members of the South Carolina Highway Patrol Honor Guard, two of them black, did the honors, less than a month after Dylann Roof allegedly murdered nine people, including the pastor, of the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston. It all happened because righteous Americans, white and black, stood up. The flag goes to a Confederate relic room in a museum down the road, relic being the key word.

The families of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary wish it was as easy to see change on guns as it was with a flag that once was used to rally the Ku Klux Klan.

Nothing about a moment like this brings back the dead or changes what happened at that prayer meeting. Nothing changes how many school shootings and church shootings we have had in this country since Sandy Hook, even as the gun lobby continues to run onto the field flying the flag of a Second Amendment, the original intent of which is constantly misrepresented, and prostituted, in America.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/confederate-flag-drops-fast-not-guns-lupica-article-1.2288049
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If only guns could be dropped as quickly as the Confederate flag (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP
Thank You. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #1
Gunz represent a similar culture of hatred and intimidation. n/t Hoyt Jul 2015 #2
No TeddyR Jul 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #5
Sorry TeddyR Jul 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #9
Yep wyldwolf Jul 2015 #3
The 2A does not prevent strict gun control. hack89 Jul 2015 #10
How come no one of consequence is seriously claiming folks are "using a tragedy for political purposes" regarding the Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #6
Thirty two feet per second squared at one Earth Gravity seveneyes Jul 2015 #7
Locking... DonViejo Jul 2015 #11

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
1. Thank You.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jul 2015
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Gunz represent a similar culture of hatred and intimidation. n/t
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jul 2015
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
4. No
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jul 2015

Guns don't, and that is just over-the-top hyperbole. The Confederate flag is a symbol of racism and oppression that was accepted only in a few areas, primarily the deep South. Firearms are accepted across the country, as represented by the ever more liberal gun control laws. I mean, Maine just enacted Constitutional carry, so this isn't a phenomenon that is unique to Texas.

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TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
8. Sorry
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:08 PM
Jul 2015

That's a vague phrase. Maine just passed a law permitting anyone in the state to carry concealed without a permit, joining among other states Arizona, Kansas, Wyoming and Vermont that also follow the same practice.

Response to TeddyR (Reply #8)

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
3. Yep
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

the flag of a Second Amendment, the original intent of which is constantly misrepresented, and prostituted, in America - even on DU by people who would be in full support of more gun control if not for ...

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. The 2A does not prevent strict gun control.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jul 2015

Go read Heller. Registration, AWBs, magazine limits, UBCs are all perfectly constitutional. The only explicitly recognized right you have is to own a hand gun in your home. That is it.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. How come no one of consequence is seriously claiming folks are "using a tragedy for political purposes" regarding the
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jul 2015

Dixie Swastika coming down but when NRA flag wavers say the same regarding the NRA Swastika, it is a debateable point?

It is another preventable tragedy in a long string of preventable tragedies because the politics have fucked up the law and the cultural perception, it is the same thing...and the NRA flag and 320 million guns in America without adequate controls, even purchaser controls, deserves the same treatment without the inane NRA talking point being taken seriously by anyone.


Australia responded like intelligent human beings to a massacre with a gun with gun controls that ended the tragedies, but America is responding, again, like they are still slaves to NRA trolling.

America still has slaves - slaves to the same politics and media apologists and gun slave masters that say politics must not be discussed because....reasons.

Tragedies CAN have political consequence, and should if politics is what caused the tragedy.

Didn't the Con. Flag coming down across America just not prove that?

The swarm of new posters spouting the same old tired and insipid illogical and childish NRA flag waving inanity...you are up!
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seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
7. Thirty two feet per second squared at one Earth Gravity
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

Physics will allow the gun to hit first. Emotions and self preservation defy physics in this case.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
11. Locking...
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jul 2015

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