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Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:26 PM

inquiry question: Lincoln

For those of you that had elementary and/or secondary education in the southern states, how was Abraham Lincoln presented?
Secondary question: since the major political party in the South is the Republican Party, how does that party there present President Lincoln?

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rustbeltvoice Jul 2015 OP
Glassunion Jul 2015 #1
MineralMan Jul 2015 #2
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brer cat Jul 2015 #5
cwydro Jul 2015 #6
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cwydro Jul 2015 #8
Igel Jul 2015 #4

Response to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:35 PM

1. I had only K through 7 in the south. We moved out after.

From my recollection, he was not presented any differently there, than he was out in CA where I finished up my schooling.

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Response to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:40 PM

2. I grew up in California.

In second grade, I recited the Gettysburg Address in a Lincoln costume, complete with a top hat made of black construction paper, as part of a school presentation with parents in attendance. I got picked, I think, because I was the only one in the class who could read it aloud correctly. I discovered that I could memorize things easily, too.

Being only seven years old, I wasn't even nervous.

Bottom line, Lincoln was treated as a major hero in our schools in CA.

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Response to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:43 PM

3. Lincoln was presented as a great president who freed the slaves.

We got all the background about studying by candlelight, etc. too.

We were also taught that slavery was a horrible wrong. We also learned about other leaders of that era. We learned about the Underground Railroad. I remember being fascinated by slaves who escaped, and by those who aided them (in the north and the south.)

I learned this in elementary school in North Carolina.

Oh, and NO ONE EVER referred to it as the "War of Northern Aggression" as I have seen certain posters assert here. NEVER have I heard that in the south.

It was called the Civil War. It was a great tragedy for our nation that killed more than in other, much larger, conflicts.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:17 PM

5. Same for me in GA public schools.

The Civil War history that I was taught did not glorify the south. Lincoln was presented as one of the greatest Presidents. I still remember teachers referring to him to as the great emancipator.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:29 PM

6. Of course, the south haters on DU (whose hatred has begun to truly amaze me)

will never believe this.

I'm just going to start trashing all those threads. They're so repetitive anyway.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:33 PM

7. I can't believe that there are still a dozen or more a day. nt

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Response to brer cat (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:50 PM

8. I know, right?

Pathetic. Tiresome.

If you pay attention, you'll see a pattern of these posters.

Kind of interesting.

Meantime, I spent most of the day picking tomatoes, squash, cucumbers, and gathering eggs from my ladies. Exhausted from another productive day in the south and heading for an early night here in just a bit.

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Response to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 04:14 PM

4. MD. Mixed.

Lawyer. Self-made in many ways.

He freed the slaves by proclamation, at least those held in non-union territory. Whatever effect that actually had after the war ended.

He wanted to free the slaves ... and then export them in colonies away from the US.

He preserved the union during the Civil War, which included some pretty heinous military tactics and is still the largest bloodletting ever sustained by the US population.

And yet he gave the Gettysburg Address, in an attempt to restore the union instead of making it into a long-term occupier/occupied relationship.

He was (R), sure, but why should the Republican Party be any concerned about how they represent Lincoln? Does the Democratic Party fret over how they represent Andrew Jackson (you know, the guy who ignored the Supreme Court and forced the Cherokees into the Trail of Tears?), or he threatened force against any state that seceded after S. Carolina threatened to secede because of tariffs?

Or Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's Democratic Party running mate and successor?

Or that it was the (D) party members that fought Reconstruction in the south and drove (R) black members of state legislatures out of office?

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