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Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:30 AM

Why Texans Fear Invasion

Some of you may recall that a few months ago, the federal government announced that it would be holding military training exercises in seven states in the Southwest, including Texas. They would, literally, bring in heavy artillery like aircraft — along with Navy SEALs, Army Green Berets and other Special Operations forces.

This opinion piece tries to explain why Texans are freaking out over this.



to some people around here, the government’s plan to train service members to work in “complex environments” looked like something else: a plot to take over the state. “This is in preparation for the financial collapse and maybe even Obama not leaving office,” the Texas-based conspiracy theorist and radio talk show host Alex Jones declared. That was followed by about one zillion Internet cranks predicting the declaration of martial law — you probably got word about the shuttered Walmarts being converted to makeshift detention centers. Gov. Greg Abbott’s attempt to calm the populace by ordering the state guard to keep an eye on the feds came next, an action that did nothing to confirm the pre-election rumor that he was much smarter than his predecessor, Rick Perry.

I don’t disagree with the observers who say that anti-Obama sentiment provided much of the fuel for this fire. But the local (over)reaction also has its roots in Texas’ DNA. Put another way, it wasn’t so nutty to get bent out of shape about a hostile invasion by a supposed tyrannical government around 185 years ago. Consider that much of Texas, then part of Mexico, was settled by prickly Scots-Irish types who’d had their own issues back home. Some of these folks were big movers in the events leading up to the Texas Revolution.

See the list of events at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/opinion/why-texans-fear-invasion.html?emc=edit_th_20150717&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0

In the end:
Those in the mental health professions might suggest a pattern here. They would also suggest that, over time, patterns can be broken, so that they don’t lead to destructive events, like the deadly 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Tex., or just plain silly ones, like believing a military exercise is cover for an invasion.

Many Texans have taken that advice: We’re moving slowly into maturity. But you know, there are always a few who take longer to get there.

Full article here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/opinion/why-texans-fear-invasion.html?emc=edit_th_20150717&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0

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liberal N proud Jul 2015 OP
Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #1
daleanime Jul 2015 #4
Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #6
Igel Jul 2015 #7
KamaAina Jul 2015 #17
Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #18
951-Riverside Jul 2015 #2
SamKnause Jul 2015 #5
hobbit709 Jul 2015 #3
ibegurpard Jul 2015 #8
Paladin Jul 2015 #9
ibegurpard Jul 2015 #11
Paladin Jul 2015 #16
liberal N proud Jul 2015 #10
Matrosov Jul 2015 #12
UTUSN Jul 2015 #13
Glassunion Jul 2015 #14
Texasgal Jul 2015 #15

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:36 AM

1. Because there is a sizable portion of Texans that are paranoid idiots?

 

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:07 AM

4. +1

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:39 AM

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Because there is a sizable portion of Texans that are paranoid idiots?
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sizable portion of Texans that are paranoid idiots? This post is catheterizes a large populous as Paranoid idiots.



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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:11 AM

7. "Penii"?

Sorry. I don't think any human has a penius. Then again, there are a lot of little wrist bones ...

"Penes" or "penises." The first is for Latinate purists, the second for people who speak only English.

"Penii."

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Response to Igel (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:46 PM

17. The alerter is clearly not a language major

 

s/he meant "characterize".

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:51 PM

18. I never thought of catheterizing a section of the Texas populace as a solution.

 

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:42 AM

2. Putin

 

He's clearly funding people like Alex Jones and various right wing and conspiracy communities to sew distrust of the US government and its military, create dissent within the military itself and also encourage well meaning idiots to report and provide intel on troop/equipment movement and activities within the US.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:21 AM

5. Damn, look at all those wasted tax dollars !!!

Gotta keep the Military Industrial Complex and their

puppets happy.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:42 AM

3. Anyone that believes anything Alex Jones says is an idiot.

He was a major ass when I ran into him 25 years ago and age hasn't improved him.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:15 AM

8. attention Texas

No one wants your shithole.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:18 AM

9. Attention, brain-dead Texas-bashers:

Over 3 million Texans voted for Obama, both in 2008 and 2012. Just something to keep in mind, the next time you take aim at the entire state, as if we're all a bunch of Rick Perry clones.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:04 AM

11. I lived in Texas for several years

I stand by my statement

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:35 PM

16. Stand by whatever you choose.

And accept my sincere gratitude for no longer being a Texas resident.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:02 AM

10. There is nothing against Texas here

Just some Texans who are paranoid idiots.

A little propaganda anywhere could have created the same effect in many places.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:10 AM

12. This article tries to apply reason to the unreasonable

 

Many Southerners are brain dead.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:37 PM

13. HUH?!1 "it wasn’t so nutty to get bent out of shape about a hostile invasion by a supposed tyrannica

tyrannical government around 185 years ago"?????????!1 Uh, who was invading whom?!1

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:51 PM

14. Article is crap.

Yes, there are folks who fear invasion. Yes, some of them live in Texas.

If the same military exercise was being held in New England, you'd have folks in Connecticut stirring up the exact same conspiracy theories.

To say however, that Texans are freaking out over this, is absurd on its face. There are millions of Texans, and such use of a broad brush is immature, and full of projection, even though it comes from a Texan.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:56 PM

15. Agreed.

The people that are freaking out are fringe nut jobs! Most of us do not care about Jade Helm. I guess it makes for a better story when you point out a few lunatics and not the "boring" sane folk.

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