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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:04 PM Jul 2015

Donald Trump is an actual fascist: What his surging popularity says about the GOP base

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/25/donald_trump_is_an_actual_fascist_what_his_surging_popularity_says_about_the_gop_base/

In the political discussion of today, there always comes a risk of being discounted as a crackpot when using a word like “fascist” to describe a political opponent. The word, much like “socialist,” has been so abused since the fall of fascism that it lost its meaning quite some time ago. Comparisons of modern leaders to Hitler tend to be completely void of any substance, and there is even an Internet adage, “Godwin’s law,” that says, “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

In a recent article by Jeffrey Tucker, however, it is argued, quite justly in my opinion, that Donald Trump, whether he knows it or not, is a fascist (or is at least acting like one). Much like Mussolini and Hitler, Trump is a demagogue dedicated to riling up the people (particularly conservatives) with race baiting, traditionalism and strongman tough talk — and, according to polls, it’s working — for now. Tucker writes:

“Trump has tapped into it, absorbing unto his own political ambitions every conceivable resentment (race, class, sex, religion, economic) and promising a new order of things under his mighty hand.”


No doubt about it, Donald Trump has decided to stir the pot, and, as Tucker says, he seems to be running for a CEO position, rather than president of a nation. Trump discusses Iran and Mexico as if they were competing corporations, and says that, as president, or CEO, he will drive them into the ground, make them file for bankruptcy — something Trump legitimately knows a thing or two about. Trump, of course, is largely taken as a joke, and most rational commentators assume he is doing this for publicity — which he is certainly getting.
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Donald Trump is an actual fascist: What his surging popularity says about the GOP base (Original Post) steve2470 Jul 2015 OP
If "fascist" has any clear meaning it has meaning in regard to Trump and the GOP and Fox. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #1
Actual quote from a TRUE BELIEVER: Xipe Totec Jul 2015 #2
You decide, but first you safeinOhio Jul 2015 #3

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. Actual quote from a TRUE BELIEVER:
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jul 2015

I had an online 'debate' with a close relative on the subject of immigration recently. This is part of her reply, where you can see (quoting from the article) "traditionalism, nationalism, intolerance towards immigrants or minorities. They react with hostility towards the social progress of others and largely believe in a ‘survival of the fittest’ ideology."

All this, despite the fact this relative is a first generation immigrant. She just got in, and she wants to slam the door directly behind her. Sweet Mother of God!


"Emotion and rightful indignation have their place, but logic and cold numbers need to be used when it comes to matters of survival. It is obvious that you don't see this topic as one of survival, well...let me rephrase that and say that I hope that that's the case...

You are absolutely correct about your rights. Continue enjoying them while they last. Just remember how fragile they are and how easily an unrealistic and false sense of compassion brews anarchy. In a perfect world, there's nothing I'd like more than for each and every person to have all their needs met and to live happy and fulfilling lives....alas, the world we live in is not that world....

I will even venture to recommend to you doing some realistic research about the number of people from all over the world who are willing to come to this country illegally, as well as the unimaginable cost that it would represent to sustain them. In your view, and for reasons I cannot comprehend, they all should be accepted and embraced by the U.S. and given what they want, but the Bill of Rights does not bestow a right upon all citizens of the world to pursue their hopes and dreams in America because of the failed governments of their own countries....

You give such a pass to those governments and instead attack without reserve the complexity of America's issues. It seems to me that you would be better served by focusing on why those people's hopes and dreams can not be satisfied in their own countries, as opposed to attacking your own for not being able to meet your particular expectation of justice. The finite amount of resources in this country is already being overburdened by debt and pressing needs to take care of its own citizens. "



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