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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 12:08 PM Jul 2015

FBI’s warning of white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement nearly forgotten

Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat."

Several key events preceded the report. A federal court found that members of a Los Angeles sheriffs department formed a Neo Nazi gang and habitually terrorized the black community. Later, the Chicago police department fired Jon Burge, a detective with reputed ties to the Ku Klux Klan, after discovering he tortured over 100 black male suspects. Thereafter, the Mayor of Cleveland discovered that many of the city police locker rooms were infested with “White Power” graffiti. Years later, a Texas sheriff department discovered that two of its deputies were recruiters for the Klan.

In near prophetic fashion, after the FBI’s warning, white supremacy extremism in the U.S. increased, exponentially. From 2008 to 2014, the number of white supremacist groups, reportedly, grew from 149 to nearly a thousand, with no apparent abatement in their infiltration of law enforcement.

This year, alone, at least seven San Francisco law enforcement officers were suspended after an investigation revealed they exchanged numerous “White Power” communications laden with remarks about “lynching African-Americans and burning crosses.” Three reputed Klan members that served as correction officers were arrested for conspiring to murder a black inmate. At least four Fort Lauderdale police officers were fired after an investigation found that the officers fantasized about killing black suspects."

http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/

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FBI’s warning of white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement nearly forgotten (Original Post) damnedifIknow Jul 2015 OP
Elephant in our living room no one's talking about. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #1
How many white supremacists can there be? Calista241 Jul 2015 #2
A lot more than the ones willing to admit it in public. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #3
Those are the simpletons with room-temperature IQs... gregcrawford Jul 2015 #14
You mean the ones with the hoods or those in business suits and dresses? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #17
Forgotten about?!? I think we see it weekly at least. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #4
Good post. jalan48 Jul 2015 #5
I suspect that alot police departments are going to need a major cleaning from top to bottom cstanleytech Jul 2015 #6
We can send a probe to Pluto damnedifIknow Jul 2015 #10
The Bush admin warned us, now that is a crazy phrase. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #7
I thought tooeyeten Jul 2015 #8
Prophetic is what the FBI report, shredded by the GOP, was, so of course it goes down the Media Memory Hole. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #9
I sure as hell haven't forgotten! gregcrawford Jul 2015 #11
Been grumpy, I can relate 100% heaven05 Jul 2015 #13
The majority of those not affected heaven05 Jul 2015 #12
Here's a thought: Ban right-wingers from the police department.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #15
I had forgotten this, and Duval Jul 2015 #16
Obviously there needs to be more law enforcement recruitment daredtowork Jul 2015 #18
Why is anyone surprised by white supremacists in the police force? WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2015 #19
Shouldn't the DoJ have been on this? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #20
Weren't there stories of Neo-Nazis/white supremacist groups ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #21
I remember this being discussed davidpdx Jul 2015 #22
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #23
I don't remember reading anything about this before, ladyVet Jul 2015 #24

Calista241

(5,585 posts)
2. How many white supremacists can there be?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

Like 10 of them showed up at the last rally i heard about in Atlanta.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
14. Those are the simpletons with room-temperature IQs...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jul 2015

... the really scary ones keep their heads down while they do the really malicious damage, like using websites to incite the brain-dead whackjobs to go out and kill indiscriminately while they stay in the shadows. Trust me, they're out there in numbers you can't even imagine, and they are irredeemably evil down to their DNA.

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
5. Good post.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jul 2015

The media presents the problem as individual incidents rather than a systemic problem within law enforcement. If the media doesn't constantly remind people of this problem they forgot it exists.

cstanleytech

(26,224 posts)
6. I suspect that alot police departments are going to need a major cleaning from top to bottom
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

because if you ignore the top they will just recruit more but the question is how to you do it exactly because its a huge job and who should do it and or oversee it? DOJ? FBI? NSA? (yes, I am only joking about the NSA)

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
7. The Bush admin warned us, now that is a crazy phrase.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jul 2015

But on this they were 100% right. Unfortunately Bush's party made sure that there were no steps taken to avoid this in order to protect the rights and privacy of extreme right wingers.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Prophetic is what the FBI report, shredded by the GOP, was, so of course it goes down the Media Memory Hole.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
11. I sure as hell haven't forgotten!
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jul 2015

The magnitude of their evil malice is incomprehensible. You can be sure that they've been told to keep those associations quiet, though some are too dirt stupid to manage even that. Law enforcement keeps trying to convince everyone that they're just "isolated incidents," but that is total bullshit.

The cops and courts are so grotesquely corrupt that any solution to this spreading cancer is going to involve convulsive social upheaval, but even that is infinitely preferable to the alternative - virtual and literal enslavement in a corporatist hellscape of horrifying proportions. And we're already more than halfway there.

What if they threw a civil war, and EVERYBODY came?

Fuck... now I'm grumpy.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. The majority of those not affected
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:54 PM
Jul 2015

by american racism could care less. How do I know that? Nothing is stopping the Sandra Blands from being murdered, only large numbers of privileged standing WITH the underprivileged will stop the infiltration of which you point out. I was looking at that article just in the last few days following the murder of Sandra Bland and the #Black Lives Matter group pointing out inconsistencies with OUR candidates, allegedly representing all us democrats.

I haven't forgotten. Just fed up with the inaction of those who are allegedly 'liberal and progressive'. If true concern had been shown, injustice, for the most part would be in OUR trash can of history instead of sitting in the sink, stinking to high heaven.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
15. Here's a thought: Ban right-wingers from the police department....
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jul 2015

On the basis that they're mentally unfit.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
19. Why is anyone surprised by white supremacists in the police force?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jul 2015

They have been involved the whole time, it's obvious, just look at it in a historical sense,there is a long history, it's been well documented.
It will be very difficult to purge them from law enforcement and the court system, but it needs to be done, the tentacles run through our whole culture.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
21. Weren't there stories of Neo-Nazis/white supremacist groups ...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:55 PM
Jul 2015

Weren't there stories of Neo-Nazis/white supremacist groups telling their members to enlist? As I remember it, the problem was twofold. The military was compelled to relax standards after the Iraq invasion and so the racist groups could get their people in to get advanced training in handling weapons, explosives, tactics, marksmanship, etc., etc., etc.

And then these guys would stumble on one another in Iraq, the tattoos must help, recruit others, and form their little cliques and cover each other for some murder and what have you amongst the Iraqis. I'm not positive at how well this was confirmed but I do remember reading some chilling stories.

The military wasn't keen on recruiting so many marginal types but they had quotas imposed on them. The theory they had was that in limited numbers they bring around most of these guys eventually. But the new standards were so changed that they came in in numbers great enough that they could reinforce each others beliefs and thus the military couldn't mold them.

Seems like a long time ago in some ways but I'm pretty sure this forum was one of the places this development was discussed. Some of these people might have left the military and joined law enforcement.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. I remember this being discussed
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jul 2015

It is now a two pronged problem: 1) how do you find those who are already embedded in law enforcement?; and 2) how do you prevent people like that from joining law enforcement?

Obviously not enough is being done to solve either of the problems. I certainly don't have the answers.

Maybe there is someone here who is law enforcement who can help shed some light on what some of the departments are doing.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
24. I don't remember reading anything about this before,
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015

but it makes sense when you look at what's happening.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but what comes to me is infiltration of the military and law enforcement; grassroots overtaking of lower offices in government (even dog catching), leading to the rise of rightwing ideologies. Buy out the media, get it under the control of a few. Own the news, own the thoughts.

Add in the disruption and demolition of the educational system, social services. Get the right people in the court system: judges, prosecutors, tainted juries. Huge gun ownership, fundamentalist church growth. Continued pushing against gays, women, people of color, the poor.

What do you get?

The roots of the second civil war.

Damn.

Or, maybe I've just given myself the plot for a book. I might even write it, but I'll have to be quick, before the shit hits the fan.

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