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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas trooper Brian Encinia was caught fabricating his story to his supervisor
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Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)everything is a lie.
He never said why she was under arrest. He took her off camera to hide what he was going to do to her.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)while claiming Ms. Bland might have smoked weed...in jail?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Prosecutors don't get many points for setting up the government they serve for lawsuits.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)i am certain her family will sue. and isn't a part of his job supposed to be seeking justice for victims?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:45 PM - Edit history (1)
they took everything you came in with away. Where would she get MJ in jail? She was not around other prisoners. He had better investigate his employees.
Also Why were the scabbed cuts on her wrist not seen when she showered, deloused, and spread cheeks all in front of a jail officer.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)but some people are buying it. i suppose that is the point.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)for the experience. i found it very educational. It will better prepare me for the next time. And the direction we are going, i am sure there will be a next time.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)and it is a very educational experience, to say least.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)waiting...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You think there are multiple police who murdered her?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's scary to think how much power a police offer has over someone who doesn't signal a lane change.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Does he give the Sgt. an intro about what he is talking about? Or was the Sgt. in on it for the start?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)In this recording when Sandra was calling the officer a pussy (meaning coward)the 2nd officer arrived, and I think I heard a female? officer say, "you are".
Then Sandra was knocked to the ground, said she hit her head and couldn't feel her arms. I assume, She had arms pulled back, cuffed, face down to the ground. When Sandra said she couldn't feel her arms, I heard the male officer say, "good".
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)does he just start into detail, as if the Sgt. knows what stop he is talking about?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)it took them a while...
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:05 AM - Edit history (1)
why did the civilian videographer say the city police hand cuffed her and put her in the Police car.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)from escalating. Yes, the cop wasn't handling the situation professionally, however she could have kept her cool. Not saying the cop was not at fault, and he should have just said up front, I'm writing you a warning and the next time remember to always use your signal when changing lanes. This all comes from proper training.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)And blaming the victim of police abuse deserves to be slaughtered.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)Sounds like you think her mouth got her killed.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)unless you think she used it to "assault" that police officer, because that was the bogus charge that landed her in jail. at what point did she assault him?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)at some point: enough is enough!!!!!!!!! and apparently this was her breaking point. there is a video on the net of a white man cussing out a cop after a traffic stop...he was not "lit up," or ordered out the car or arrested, and i have not heard a chorus of "he could have handled it better." and...two more people died in jail cells one day after Ms. Bland. one was a Native American man, and the other another black woman. one last thing: nothing Ms. Bland did was illegal, except changing lanes without signalling to get out of the cop's way.
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FuzzyRabbit
(1,967 posts)she deserved to die. The cop had no responsibility to keep his cool. The victim is the one who should be blamed.
Logical
(22,457 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)But if you could read my mind I would be thrown off the site. Every time someone blames this woman for not taking a cop treating her like dirt it annoys the shit out of me.
There is a famous youtube video of a man screaming at a police officer while he calmly writes him a ticket and tells him to have a good day. of course said screamer was white.
Even if you do not mean to sound racist I have to take from everyone who says she should have behaved is that you mean she should not have been "uppity" or she should have "known her place."
Oh well, people suck is my new motto. People suck.
brush
(53,764 posts)the most minor traffic violation situation there is.
In fact, he escalated horrendously and violently.
Fire his unprofessional a _ _. With that hair-trigger temper he doesn't deserve to be entrusted with a gun and badge (but I'm pretty sure his temper only flares up when a POC doesn't immediately kowtow to him).
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)That cop is a "pussy", just like Ms. Bland said. I really wonder how him and some the other punk ass cops who push around and kill innocent people would respond in a real fight, without guns and badges? I'm thinking they would turn tail and run away.
Note- I AM NOT CONDONING PHYSICAL VIOLENCE! Just wondering about things.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)other than that, i have no problem with your post.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)a whole lot better than using approved words. Context is the key here.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)are adding up in order to support the bigger lies.
MJ in her system? Where and how did she get it if she was in a cell by herself? A cell where only the officers had access to.
When I watched the video, it was glaringly obvious that he was lying to his supervisor. Was she aggravated, mildly. Was she belligerent, not even close.
I think there should be a law that when a cop takes a person off camera (or camera "accidentally" not on) during an arrest and that person ends up beaten or dead that the suspect is to be believed over the cop. there should also be an immediate gag order placed on the police department.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Make a law that states that if a law enforcement officer takes someone off camera, or disables/powers down a camera, its instant felony, 2 year minimum, done being law enforcement.
Plus fire his ass.
All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch, therefore its time to start removing the bad apples, and prevent them from being in any bunch on a permanent basis. With great power comes great responsibility. Its time for their responsibility to start matching the power they exercise.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)This recording of him shows outright lies about his behavior. He tries to tell the Sgt. he was all perfectly official, 'by the book' with the 'violent police assaulter woman'
uhnope
(6,419 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:01 PM - Edit history (1)
Those fuckers know when they've got a completely helpless victim and that they can do anything out of camera range as long as they say scream the key words - 'stop!', even though she seems to be complying a thousand times better than I would have.
Hateful, lying asshole.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)....under arrest:
At 28:09-28:16 Encinia tells his supervisor that anyone stopped at a traffic stop is "technically under arrest" and "not free to go", but falsely stated that he DID NOT SAY THE WORDS "You are under arrest".
Then, at 31:19 he falsely tells his supervisor that the point at which he told her she was "under arrest" was after he had been forced to take her to the ground because of her "resistance".
He hedged by adding words to the effect that that was his best memory.
It's pretty clear that Encinia knew that telling he she was under arrest at the time he actually did tell her "You ARE under arrest" (10:10 in this video) he had no grounds to place he under arrest (as all she had done was question his request that she put out her cigaret and tell him that she did not have to get out of her car), and Encinia knew that if falsely timed the point at which he told her she was "under arrest" to the time after he had taken her off camera and described her as "flailing her arms and kicking him" (which she clearly could not have done when she was still inside the car and he actually told her "You ARE under arrest" that he could falsely portray her arrest as legal.
winstars
(4,219 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)neither is pointing out that his command is illegal. neither is asking why you are being placed under arrest. god...i hate authoritarians!!!