PETA calls for Walter Palmer to be ‘hanged’ for killing Cecil the lion

[damnedifIknow]

In the days since suburban Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer was outed as the hunter who killed Cecil the lion, there has been no shortage of public fury.

Angry animal lovers from around the world flooded Palmer’s Yelp and Facebook page with thousands of negative reviews. Zimbabwean officials said they are investigating Palmer for poaching. An online petition urging the White House to extradite Palmer quickly sped past 100,000 signatures.
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Here is the official statement from PETA co-founder and President Ingrid Newkirk:

Hunting is a coward’s pastime. If, as has been reported, this dentist and his guides lured Cecil out of the park with food so as to shoot him on private property, because shooting him in the park would have been illegal, he needs to be extradited, charged, and, preferably, hanged. To get a thrill at the cost of a life, this man gunned down a beloved lion, Cecil with a high-powered weapon. All wild animals are beloved by their own mates and infants, but to hunters like this overblown, over-privileged little man, who lack empathy, understanding, and respect for living creatures, they are merely targets to kill, decapitate, and hang up on a wall as a trophy. The photograph of this dentist, smiling over the corpse of another animal, who, like Cecil, wanted only to be left in peace, will disgust every caring soul in the world."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/30/peta-calls-for-walter-palmer-to-be-hanged-for-killing-cecil-the-lion/?tid=pm_national_pop_b

[Cleita]

1. Well, I think PETA is missing what they stand for and that is

not harming or killing animals. Walter Palmer still is an animal.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. I'm surprised.

I'da thought they'd have called for him to be hunted with bow and arrow, shot non-lethally, allowed to try and stay alive for 11 hours, then shot again, fatally. Oh, and have his head and skin chopped off.

[Logical]

3. PETA is almost a parody at this point. Hurting the cause more than helping it. nt

[damnedifIknow]

6. Possibly, but I like how they don't mince words

I mean, in your face and that gets attention.

[hifiguy]

4. Has PETA ever been relevant to

anything? Worst of all possible representatives on important issues

[kwolf68]

17. YES

In the early days PETA was great. Do some research on Alex Pachecho, animal rights activist. He did a lot of wonderful things on behalf of animals. Covert pics/video to show how animals are treated. His work alone effected change for the better of animals. So at one point they had a purpose and mission that made sense and resonated.

As a huge animal lover myself, PETA is a effing joke at this point, doing more harm than good because of their outlandish bullshit.

[snooper2]

5. PETA fail

notice the words to the music match perfectly

[Rex]

7. PETA did themselves in by trying to pretend they were 'holier than thou'

then getting caught (red handed) with tons of dead animals they pretended to care so much about.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

31. If hanging is the penalty for killing a lion what's the penalty for

jumping the shark?

[Rex]

33. I'd say a night out with Henry Winkler, but that probably would be fun.

How about a shark tank and PETA has to defend their rights as they eat chum on live TV?

[Turchinsky]

40. How about this?

[PeteSelman]

8. PETA are generally idiots.

But broken clocks and all.

Seriously though, I don't advocate his outright murder, I advocate for him to be thrown into a lion's den and given the opportunity to fight for his life. A rare thing for a coward.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. You were alerted on for a dupe. It's not a hideable offense, but could you self-delete the 2nd post?

Thanks.

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[PeteSelman]

30. What a stupid alert.

What the fuck is wrong with people around here?

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. Agreed. n/t

[catbyte]

10. Meh, assholes like Palmer are a dime a dozen and are destroying the planet. I don't condone murder,

of course, but the sooner he and his obscene ilk shuffle off this mortal coil, the better off everyone on the planet will be. And I never say--or think--things like this, but for some reason, this was the last straw for me. Rich, entitled assholes like him think they can rape and pillage the planet and all the creatures on it at will just because they're rich entitled assholes. I am sick and tired of it. That lion's life was worth more than that creep Palmer's. It's way harsh, I know, but there you have it.

[spiderpig]

11. My feelings exactly

I know the world is full of violence, abuse, torture...but for this thing to pay a ransom to stalk, torture and kill a living thing to satisfy his manly manhood just makes me barf. I wouldn't open these threads except I keep hoping this creature will be brought to account.

Ugh.

[lpbk2713]

12. Do they really want to be thought of as "extreme" idiots?

They might want to think this one over.

[Paladin]

13. A statement from PETA was inevitable. As was an opposing statement from Ted Nugent.

Both sides have spoken, for what it's worth.

[Scurrilous]

21. I'm still waiting to hear from the wildebeests & gazelles.

"@#$% Cecil the Lion."

[Paladin]

22. I would welcome their input. Helluva photo. (nt)

[Darb]

14. Ahhhh, how nice. The usual PETA hate, right on schedule.

It should only take another couple of minutes for someone to say: PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals, not knowing how tired that is, not to mention only funny to dorks.

Treating animals ethically is such a bad idea, right?

[AllFieldsRequired]

26. I am thrown by all this, I am not up on PETA, not sure if the comments about them

abusing animals is true, dont see how.

Dead animals?

I wont google it, but just seems off

[Major Nikon]

34. PETA's shelter kills almost all the cats and dogs they take in

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2014

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2013

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2012

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2011

[AllFieldsRequired]

60. What is the alternative if there are no homes?

[Major Nikon]

61. If?

The PETA shelter has NO adoption hours. 90% of the animals they take in are exterminated within the first 24 hours. The "alternative" would be to at least try to find homes for the pets. PETA has a multimillion $ budget compared to other real animal humane organizations that manage to find homes for around 90-95% of the animals with a fraction of the budget.

[LiberalElite]

39. hey - I was an active animal rights activist for a couple decades -

I no longer believe PETA's folks walk on water. No organization, NONE is above criticism.

[Eleanors38]

15. PETA prefers gassing puppies and kittens, with no retaliation.

[Orrex]

18. Shhhh! When they kill animals, it's because it's the ethical thing to do or something.

[LiberalElite]

38. That's it - I have been an animal rights activist and -

when I learned about PETA's dogma about shelter animals it blew me away. They're all for right to life for minks but pets in shelters (correction: companion animals) - it's nuts.

[Darb]

19. Hey genius, how many puppies and kittens do you think they can house?

Just a rough estimate? A million? A hundred? How many?

How many are they able to give away to good homes? A thousand?

Just trying to get a hold of your point. I fear there isn't a point, just typical PETA hate dumbfuckery.

[Eleanors38]

23. Ah, my grasshopper. Evidently PETA houses ________ ?

Didn't know they bothered housing any animal since adopting specially equipped vans. If they aren't going to house animals, then they should not claim they can find good homes for pets, then put down the would-be pets. You would agree, no? I mean, to misrepresent its goals (systematic extermination) as finding good homes strikes any reasonable person as ...umm... dishonest? Corrupt? Perhaps illegal? That organization's pre-occupation with death (human & animal) is disquieting; celebrity goo-goo eyes not withstanding.

[Major Nikon]

35. I can tell you exactly how many, genius

In 2014 they took in 1606 cats and killed 1536. They took in 1025 dogs and killed 788.

I've also got the numbers for subsequent years if you want them, but the ratios don't differ by all that much. PETA kills almost all the pets they take in which is in sharp contrast to real animal humane organizations which take in similar amounts of animals and manage to kill only a small percentage.

So tell us again how this is dumbfuckery. I'd love to hear your totally brilliant explanation.

[Deadshot]

16. Wow.

PETA is crazy.

He should be fined and maybe imprisoned, sure, but hanged? That's a bit too far.

[rateyes]

20. I didn't know PETA was pro-death penalty.

whodathunkit?

[Eleanors38]

25. Pet survival rate at PETA: Dogs, 2.5%. Cats, .4%

If you consider a "good home" as a fanciful fast track to animal heaven, PETA is the place to go.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

24. Maybe a low level helicopter flight above the San Diego Zoo

Hey Mr. dentist, there's the San Diego Zoo Safari Park and the lion's compound. Let's go in for a closer look. Watch out there, oops, shouldn't have leaned out so far. Boy those guys are hungry for dentist meat.

[Marrah_G]

27. Yes well, she is an idiot.

[leftyladyfrommo]

29. this from a group that euthanized 95%

Of the animals they take in.

Please!

[Major Nikon]

36. They also steal pets from people's homes and kill them

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/peta-steals-and-kills-lit_b_6156196.html

[leftyladyfrommo]

41. The woman who heads PETA is one

Twisted sister. She bragged that she had euthanized more than 1000 animals herself.

That group is unbelievable. They bring the animals in the front door and euthanize them right away. They think they are better off dead.

[Major Nikon]

44. It's what PETA really does. WARNING: shocking photos of PETA's carnage

All the people who claim to love animals and are cheerleaders for PETA probably won't want to click on this and discover that donation money goes towards financing PETA's extermination camp for pets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

Fuck PETA.

[leftyladyfrommo]

57. Yes. They are really, really bad.

They took animals out of a shelter here saying they would place them. They took them out to their van, euthanized them and then dumped them in a trash container behind a grocery store.

They are really, really bad.

[LiberalElite]

37. I have been an animal rights activist and back in the day (1980's)

I thought PETA was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Over time I began to wonder if anyone there ever thinks things through before they blurt some pronouncement. I don't think an organization's calling for someone's death, no matter what the cause you're promoting, does anything for that cause. In reality it detracts from it. This is magnified 10x if it's PETA.

[NCTraveler]

42. PETA makes comments like this every now and then.

Ok. Somewhat regularly. It helps to boost donations. Many of their strongest backers like this stuff. That turns into money. They then often use that money for things I can get behind. Their bombastic comments don't bother me like they use to because I do see a greater good behind it. I'm not donating to PETA. I don't mind them doing releases directed more at those willing to write checks. In the end some good comes of the money.

[Major Nikon]

43. It's not just comments. PETA does genuinely evil shit.

Like stealing a pet from an immigrant family's home, killing it, then returning a couple of days later, bragging about killing their child's pet, and mocking them by giving the family a fruit basket.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/peta-steals-and-kills-lit_b_6156196.html

And running a so-called animal "shelter" where unwitting people bring their unwanted pets in only to have the vast majority of them executed.
https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2014

[NCTraveler]

45. I won't argue they don't.

I also think they provide a good service with many if their uthinizations. Society has a huge pet issue. PETA didn't start that nor do they promote it. I currently have seven strays out back. Every one is a "pet" of a neighbor. One has a massive head wound. I wish someone from PETA would stop by here and grab my neighbors "pets". Their "owners" have relegated them to a life of misery. That is the real societal problem. Not PETA.

I could post many individual stories about an organization that every member of this board supports. Stories showing truly evil behavior. I don't because there is no reason to support the incoming assault from the right. I do similar with PETA anymore. I haven't always been that way.

[Major Nikon]

50. What you describe is not what they are doing

They are taking in pets while assuring people they will try to find them a home, and exterminating them pretty much immediately. Their "shelter" has no adoption hours. It's basically a death camp for animals.

[NCTraveler]

59. I did not argue against that point, which I stated before.

I made two points. 1) PETA does more than what you are saying that is clearly a black eye on them. Again, I made no argument against you on that point. 2) the number of "my neighbors" that I described above do so much more harm to many different species by the way they care for their cats than PETA has ever done.

PETA has and does take part in some pretty obscene and unethical things. They also have a positive side. The practices of factory farming are rarely called abhorrent, disgusting, unethical, and often in complete deference to the best and most humane ways to take a life. Their practices are called extreme by few. Yet PETA puts out a press release or takes part in something many find to be abhorrent, disgusting and unethical, they are called extreme by the masses.

There were probably around 14,000 cows killed today in the U.S. Many of them will not get the compassion of the best methods available to us today.

How many families did PETA hurt today?

I think that is why I stopped being anti-PETA. I have great appreciation for many of the things they do in that area. The videos that come out do make a difference. They promote change in policy and factory procedure.

As a meat eater, I want the highest standards available. Currently, government, consumer concern, nor corporation are ensuring that. PETA wants them out of business. I know that will never happen. PETA wants to shine some sunlight on their practices. I want the same.

I believe it has to be put in relative terms.

Please note, I am not trying to say the story you present is ethical or proper on the part of PETA.

[Lulu Belle]

47. Wow!

That kind of act in my area would earn the gloating thief a fast trip to the morgue.
It would be justified though, since by PETA's own standards, killing a lion is punishable by death.
Does anyone take this group of morons seriously anymore?

[Sunlei]

48. Zimbabwe hired their last hangman in 2005. It is true they hang people but not poachers.

[mgcgulfcoast]

49. yikes

so i guess they think some animals are ok to kill?

[HassleCat]

51. Figuratively, I hope

Even as crazy as PETA gets. I hope they don't support the death penalty.

[DFW]

52. I am opposed to hanging Palmer, and here's why

I think it would be far more appropriate to leave him tethered to a tree somewhere in Zimbabwe, preferably somewhere where hungry lions hunt.

[hughee99]

53. Peta never seems to miss an opportunity to jump into the middle of the story

and make themselves look bad for all to see.

[CountAllVotes]

54. Sounds too good for me ...

& recommend.

[Godhumor]

55. PETA is a joke and not a very funny one n/t

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

56. re: "Hunting is a coward’s pastime."

In many cases I'd agree. There are, however, certain hunters that I find favorable. Carlos Hathcock II, for example, was what I think of as a great hunter. It isn't really fair if the prey can't shoot back.

There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. - Ernest Hemingway

I have no sympathy for Palmer. He shot Cecil, not with a rifle, but with an arrow. IIRC it took Cecil more than a day to die from the wound. Humane people don't do these things.

[RKP5637]

58. PETA is going too far over the top with this IMO which negates any effectiveness they might have.

It makes them look/sound foolish and dilutes the message they are trying to convey.

[LynneSin]

62. It was Gandhi that said 'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'

I think that's a good quote for what PETA would like to do with Dr. Palmer.

I think the dentist is scum and I would like him punished. Hanging or any other kind of death penalty is not an option, in my opinion. The guy is wealthy, he's a skilled dentist and has an ego that needs kicked down a few notches. I think a punishment that better fits the need that could benefit others is much more fitting. Like financial restitution, or having him provide freee dental clinics in Zimbabwe.

Hanging the dentist would make PETA no better than Palmer.