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(40,393 posts)
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:29 PM May 2012

When it comes to protests, when do the police NOT lie??

Last edited Tue May 22, 2012, 06:28 AM - Edit history (1)

if you believe police versions of their protest actions, then you need to pay just a little attention.


Charges Dismissed As Video Catches NYPD Lying At First #OWS Trial

Arbuckle was arrested on New Year’s Day for allegedly blocking traffic during a protest march. He was charged with disorderly conduct, and his arresting officer testified under oath that he, along with the protesters, was standing in the street, despite frequent requests from the police to move to the sidewalk.

But things got a little embarrassing for the NYPD officer when the defense presented a video recording of the entire event, made by well-known journalist Tim Pool.

Pool's footage clearly shows Arbuckle, along with all the other protesters, standing on the sidewalk. In fact, the only people blocking traffic were the police officers themselves

His lawyers said the video proving that testimony false is what swayed the judge, and the verdict a clear indication that the NYPD was over-policing the protests.

The irony of the case, however, is that Arbuckle was not a protester, or even a supporter of the Occupy movement. He was there to document the cops’ side of the story.

A political science and photography major at NYU, Arbuckle felt the police were not being fairly represented in the media.

“All the focus was on the conflict and the worst instances of brutality and aggression, where most of the police I met down there were really professional and restrained,” the student said.

However, his good intentions only landed him in trouble. As with all the other detained protesters, the police offered Arbuckle an Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal (ACD), which basically means he would be let off the hook if he agreed not to fight the charges. But to Arbuckle, that meant an admission of guilt, and he decided to take the case to trial.

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(27,461 posts)
1. this should be more than "embarrassing"
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:47 PM
May 2012

how many times has this happened and it not get caught on video?

Has Bloomberg said anything about this? No? Then he should be blamed. What about Eric Holder? No? Then him too. People are being falsely arrested with the full support of Bloomberg and Holder, both of whom work for the bankers.


(28,498 posts)
2. What's the penalty for lying under oath?
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:55 PM
May 2012
...and his arresting officer testified under oath

Is it the same for cops as for private citizens?


(5,178 posts)
11. Some animals are more equal than others.
Tue May 22, 2012, 10:10 AM
May 2012

I've seen the supposed greatest leaders & moral men of the American people over the last 30 odd years lie their asses off under oath and with zero to minimal follow-up when said lies are exposed.
Never trust anyone with any claimed "authority" over you. They will probably use you and spit you out. They can't really help it though. They have been raised that way. That is, if you believe people lead by example. Over the same 30 years the only thing I've seen trickle down to the masses are the morals & ethics of those great men.



(20,317 posts)
4. I believe cops are allowed to lie in court, aren't they?
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:00 PM
May 2012

Don't they have immunity of some sort? In my experience, they always do it. I wouldn't attach an ounce of credibility to the testimony of a cop in most circumstances.



(20,729 posts)
6. i completely believe that both police & media lie routinely in such cases, having experienced it
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:39 PM
May 2012




(65,616 posts)
7. So we call criminal behavior by Bloomberg's private army 'a little embarrassing'?
Mon May 21, 2012, 01:43 PM
May 2012

This country is so fucked...

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