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RandySF

(58,534 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:49 AM Aug 2015

Little Girl Banned From Bringing Wonder Woman Lunch Box To School Because It's 2015

Apparently, Wonder Woman and the rest of her superhero kind have no place in school — or, at the very least, not in one particular school. One little girl had no idea what was to come in simply using a fun Wonder Woman lunch box to carry her PB&J. But alas, it's 2015, and well, the girl's school quickly banned her lunch box from the premises for the most ridiculous reason.

An Imgur user posted a series of pics to the photo-sharing platform revealing that the daughter of a friend was banned from bringing her Wonder Woman lunch box into school. Though the user wouldn’t name the school in question, photos of the offending lunch box and the letter from the school were posted. The lunch box, which you can see here, has a old-school image of Wonder Woman’s face on the front, while the back has her full body holding a lasso with the caption, "As lovely as Aphrodite. As wise as Athena." Despite the imagery, the school considered this a "violent character," and is therefore not allowed to be shown on any student’s clothes, backpacks and lunch boxes.

According to the letter from this particular school, the dress code in the School Handbook labels superheroes as "violent characters," which they define as "those who solve problems using violence." It’s, perhaps, a good thing that the user did not reveal the name of the school that sent this letter because, knowing how the Internet operates nowadays, it might spark a witch hunt. Still, it’d be interesting to note whether this mandate came from a public or private school.

As The Mary Sue points out, this action seems to imply that the administration who passed such an action knows very little about the comic book heroes they are banning. Wonder Woman, for instance, is a symbol of female empowerment and often only uses violence as a last resort or to protect lives when danger approaches. The same goes for Superman, who is famous for his unwillingness to take a life. That’s, at least, in the case of the comics and animated series — sorry, Man of Steel. That said, oversensitivity has been a talking point as of late. However, this particular action seems to be, as The Mary Sue put it, a blanket ban on violence instead of an informed mandate. Hopefully this will help launch a conversation in this community.


http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Little-Girl-Banned-From-Bringing-Wonder-Woman-Lunch-Box-School-Because-It-2015-79507.html

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Little Girl Banned From Bringing Wonder Woman Lunch Box To School Because It's 2015 (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2015 OP
Sad, what are we boxing ourselves into? demosincebirth Aug 2015 #1
Stupidity like this should hurt. hifiguy Aug 2015 #2
I wonder what they teach in History class at that school - it's got to be petronius Aug 2015 #3
Er, we live in a culture that's addicted to violence Lorien Aug 2015 #4
This is the kind of crap... EL34x4 Aug 2015 #5
Eeyup. hifiguy Aug 2015 #6
Yep! EL34x4 Aug 2015 #7
I've owned a couple of Dave Reeves Hiwatts hifiguy Aug 2015 #9
That's the era to own, for sure. EL34x4 Aug 2015 #39
I had my my first Hiwatt 100 put on a scope once. hifiguy Aug 2015 #72
Darn. I was hoping it was for a Dynaco Stereo 70. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #26
100 watt Marshall fan, I assume! Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #33
Yeah, it's hard. EL34x4 Aug 2015 #35
Oh, I've done it.. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #37
A 100W plexi? Damn, hifiguy Aug 2015 #40
Nights like tonight... EL34x4 Aug 2015 #91
F#%king A. Glassunion Aug 2015 #53
I remember going amp shopping about ten years ago hifiguy Aug 2015 #69
If I were ever to be quoted for all of eternity. Glassunion Aug 2015 #70
How exactly will this get Trump elected? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #44
Trump is riding high on a backlash... EL34x4 Aug 2015 #57
Yep. Stuff like this is raw meat for the reichwing dullards. hifiguy Aug 2015 #68
"reichwing" is an apt description EL34x4 Aug 2015 #78
Not so much Hitler, who was unique, and had a real messiah complex, hifiguy Aug 2015 #79
No names and the school is not named in the article. It is a sort of a fact free article. greatlaurel Aug 2015 #8
I always assume these "fact-free" articles are made-up. tabasco Aug 2015 #43
A lot of these kinds of articles are sourced from Reddit Xithras Aug 2015 #56
+ struggle4progress Aug 2015 #71
I noticed that, too. This article smells. kcr Aug 2015 #62
My thought exactly. I wondered if this is just another apocryphal story to tell us how bad Squinch Aug 2015 #75
Between this and the boy thrown in a cop car over shoes romanic Aug 2015 #10
zero tolerance melm00se Aug 2015 #16
Makes robots out of us all. randome Aug 2015 #19
Zero tolerace policy is a cop out gladium et scutum Aug 2015 #84
I wonder ornotna Aug 2015 #11
A better idea would be a U.S. Marine Corps madville Aug 2015 #13
It's already happened.. AnPak Aug 2015 #58
Zero tolerance madville Aug 2015 #12
We don't want to offend anyone...right??? ileus Aug 2015 #14
The fact that there is no letterhead madaboutharry Aug 2015 #15
The letterhead and signature were covered up because the mother didn't want the school Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #21
So it was said, as of now just another tale on the intertubes snooper2 Aug 2015 #24
We have become such a soft, weak society. bigwillq Aug 2015 #17
Well, she did kill Max Lord. (He got better.) randome Aug 2015 #18
I am glad the school is not identified. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #22
Zero tolerance is not a "liberal" idea. It was thought up for the convenience of administrators. greatlaurel Aug 2015 #29
I see your point too. But it's hard to Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #30
Each incidence is unique and should be looked at on an individual basis. Glassunion Aug 2015 #48
That doesn't address my point. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #55
Actually it does. Glassunion Aug 2015 #60
This. hifiguy Aug 2015 #66
That's what we pay administrators for... AnPak Aug 2015 #59
We pay them to inspect lunch boxes every day, for a school of six hundred Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #61
Can't let this one go laundry_queen Aug 2015 #88
Ok. If you've had kids though - kids Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #94
We ban WonderWoman Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #20
We 'ban' a fictional character that NEVER used a gun or weapon until the 21st century. Rex Aug 2015 #25
So where on the lunchbox does it show a violent character? A lasso? Yougottabefuckingkiddingme! Rex Aug 2015 #23
No, they ban all superheroes, not just the females. Glassunion Aug 2015 #34
That was my first thought too...how about that football team? Rex Aug 2015 #41
Every boy and girl needs role models and heroes. Glassunion Aug 2015 #42
I got through H.S., because the X-men were different and that was okay. Rex Aug 2015 #46
I'm leaning towards lazy Glassunion Aug 2015 #49
Yes I think you hit the nail on the head. Rex Aug 2015 #50
Bingo! greatlaurel Aug 2015 #51
I'm awaiting Yuiyoshidas comments calikid Aug 2015 #27
I saw something earlier this month that said 2015 - the year to be offended by everything. liberal N proud Aug 2015 #28
Religious school? DirkGently Aug 2015 #31
Before I opened the thread, I thought the issue was that her collarbones are showing. nt laundry_queen Aug 2015 #89
"Cardigan Woman lunch boxes are acceptable." DirkGently Aug 2015 #90
Violence and Dress Code abelenkpe Aug 2015 #32
I see nothing wrong with banning violent characters. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #36
Exactly! Glassunion Aug 2015 #45
WW is not a "violent character." WinkyDink Aug 2015 #64
She does use violence. Glassunion Aug 2015 #73
The 2015 WW is not the lunch-box one. But hey---if this school wants to ban all discussions of wars, WinkyDink Aug 2015 #82
Keep up that fantasy as long as possible right? AnPak Aug 2015 #81
that's what happens when you go DC 0rganism Aug 2015 #38
Well... Storm did kick her ass. Glassunion Aug 2015 #47
I wonder if a US Army lunchbox would be allowed n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #52
Jerks should be more concerned with guns in schools than what's on a lunchbox. Octafish Aug 2015 #54
"Still, it’d be interesting to note whether this mandate came from a public or private school." ONLY WinkyDink Aug 2015 #63
SNOPES has its doubts. Metal lunch-boxes have generally been banned. To "Daniel and Sarah"?? WinkyDink Aug 2015 #65
Reading comprehension fail MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #77
Unsubstantiated rumors hold that a metal lunch box ban has been in effect in schools since at least WinkyDink Aug 2015 #83
more action character than violent Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #67
This story, real or not (I have my doubts), does not negate the awesomeness of Wonder Woman. Glassunion Aug 2015 #74
When the great George Perez rebooted WW hifiguy Aug 2015 #80
And behind this school's peculiar take on culture you will find... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #76
A former co-worker of mind would give this school a piece of her mind Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #85
FAKE STORY - debunked Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #86
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet?" What!1!?1?!??1!?!!1!??? struggle4progress Aug 2015 #92
FAKE STORY - debunked Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #87
Superman is not "unwilling to take a life" Nevernose Aug 2015 #93
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Stupidity like this should hurt.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:01 AM
Aug 2015

Like a bowling ball dropped on a bare foot hurts.

Wonder what would happen if she brought a My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic lunchbox? Applejack, Rainbow Dash and even Rarity have been known to give a villain or monster a good stiff buck in the mush.

petronius

(26,598 posts)
3. I wonder what they teach in History class at that school - it's got to be
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:09 AM
Aug 2015

difficult to protect their young charges from exposure to "violent characters" with a definition that broad...

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
4. Er, we live in a culture that's addicted to violence
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:11 AM
Aug 2015

and Joe Blow 'Merican prefers violence and killing as the first tool for "problem solving" to come out of the box. If that weren't the case we wouldn't have so many citizens worshipping firearms, the military, trigger happy cops, and believing that seeing a naked breast is 100x worse than seeing a woman get her head blown off. Methinks the school isn't upset about "violence", but rather about the idea of a strong female character who can take care of herself.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. I've owned a couple of Dave Reeves Hiwatts
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:51 AM
Aug 2015

in my day. Great for us bassists cos they were almost impossible to overdrive and played insanely loud while staying clean.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
39. That's the era to own, for sure.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

It's unfortunate that the brand developed a bad reputation after Reeves' passing.

Today, Hiwatt has rebranded themselves and is making an effort to return to the MIL-SPEC, point to point wired, thunderously clean loud amps that they were famous for.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
72. I had my my first Hiwatt 100 put on a scope once.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:37 PM
Aug 2015

Didn't clip until 170 W. Peaked at around 250. I played it through two crazy-efficient Orange 6x12 cabinets. Rickenbacker 4001 with Rotosounds played with a pick for the full Chris Squire monty. Crank that sucker up and it was like standing inside of Jehovah's own stadium-sized Steinway concert grand. I could out-loud a PA that was driven by a Phase Linear 700 AND a Phase Linear 400, and the Hiwatt was as clean as a hound's tooth. That was BIG fun.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
33. 100 watt Marshall fan, I assume!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

I'm a low-wattage tube guy. I have a custom made 18 watt amp (2xEL84) with a Marshall Superlead front end. She's a screamer. I also have a tweed Princeton clone I built (4 watts) that I run into a 2x12 and use with my band. I can't imagine playing a 100 watt amp these days.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
35. Yeah, it's hard.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:04 PM
Aug 2015

I retired my rockstar dreams a long time ago but I still have a great collection of gear. My 100-watt British-made Marshall Plexi stack is a work of art. It's in wonderful condition and I'll never get rid of it.

Sadly, in the quiet subdivision I reside in these days, it is pretty much unusable. Every now and then though, on a Friday night with a few beers in my belly, I'll get a wild hair and dime it out. This usually lasts no more than 10 minutes before my wife comes screaming, "TURN THAT THING OFF BEFORE THE NEIGHBORS CALL THE POLICE!!!"

But it is a glorious 10 minutes. Standing in front of a dimed Marshall stack is an awesome experience. The whole house shakes.

And nobody has ever called the police.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
37. Oh, I've done it..
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

In my younger days. Now, in my mid 30s, I protect my ears at all costs. Glad (and lucky) I didn't lose any hearing in my teens and twenties. I will say, however, that my 18 watt through a 2x12 held up just fine next to my buddy's 120 watt Peavey XXX (4xEL34) into a 4x12. He kept telling me my amp wouldn't be loud enough, but my leads cut through the mix nicely.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. A 100W plexi? Damn,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:24 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)

That's the righteous stuff right there, brother.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
91. Nights like tonight...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:51 PM
Aug 2015

I hate to hijack threads...

But I think I'd rather talk about 100 watt Marshall amplifiers, skull-crushing noise, old tubes, beautiful Celestion cabinets, Fender Strats, Les Pauls, fuzz pedals, Roto-vibes.... Anything else except Donald Trump...

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
53. F#%king A.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

I do the same about once a year. Plug the head into the 4x12, turn that sucker up to 11 and let her rip. The windows in the house buckled so bad once I cracked one... From the basement.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
69. I remember going amp shopping about ten years ago
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:17 PM
Aug 2015

with a guitarist buddy. He had an incredible tone on his own (Les Paul Kalamazoo edition) but after half a dozen amps, he plugged into a Marshall 50W pure tube head through a 4X12. We just looked at each other and nodded. "yep, that's it." The harmonics popped like through no other amp.

Nothing else sounds like an all-tube Marshall for lead guitar.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
70. If I were ever to be quoted for all of eternity.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:24 PM
Aug 2015

It'd be a simple one. "A Marshall Double-Stack will make you sterile and smile at the same time."

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
57. Trump is riding high on a backlash...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

...against the "politically correct/zero tolerance/don't offend anyone/accept everyone/always apologize" paradigm that has established itself in American culture over the past two decades. And people are eating it up, white people in particular. And there's still a lot of white people in America.

That's how. Dismiss this at your peril.

There's millions of people out there who think that reprimanding a girl over a freakin' Wonder Woman lunchbox (and it doesn't matter if the story is true, people already believe it is) is perfect example of what "Made America Suck" and here comes Donald Trump to "Make America Great Again!" It doesn't matter that most people have no idea where Donald Trump stands on the issues (and I'm not sure even Trump himself knows).

I don't know if Trump has heard of this story but you can bet that if he did, he'd rail against it in such a way to blast zero tolerance policies across the nation. People would cheer and his poll numbers would again rise.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
68. Yep. Stuff like this is raw meat for the reichwing dullards.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

And it should be profoundly embarrassing to anyone with a lick of sense.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
78. "reichwing" is an apt description
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:28 PM
Aug 2015

Because that's what Trump really is, a fascist. People might not recognize it as such because so many associate fascism with salutes and spiffy military uniforms. He may not be shouting and sputtering into a microphone like Hitler, face red with fury, but it's all there in his words.

And we shouldn't ever forget that, as history has demonstrated, fascism can sell very well. It's the perfect antidote to an angry population looking for someone to blame for their perceived misfortunes.

Think it can't ever happen here? Yes, it can.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
79. Not so much Hitler, who was unique, and had a real messiah complex,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

but tRUMP is a loudmouthed, blowhard nationalistic bully and goon who thinks he's All That and King Shit from Turd Hill besides. A lot like this guy, for whom it did not end at all well after the partisans got him:

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
8. No names and the school is not named in the article. It is a sort of a fact free article.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:29 AM
Aug 2015

If a school is banning WW lunchbox, they do deserve some flack. However, if they are implementing some sort of new policy, someone may be overreacting, but public schools must try to appear consistent in enforcing their standards.

Would really like a little more factual information, especially the name of the school or at least whether it is a public school.

The zero tolerance nonsense that has been peddled in public schools for quite awhile does deserve to be mocked and scorned in order to make administrators see the error and harm this ridiculous concept does to kids, especially kids who are bullied.

Thanks for posting.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
43. I always assume these "fact-free" articles are made-up.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

Too much BS floating around the Internet to believe crap without solid cites.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
56. A lot of these kinds of articles are sourced from Reddit
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:33 PM
Aug 2015

It's always surprising how much Reddit content gets picked up by the major media without verification, or how many Reddit discussions get transformed into Internet memes or clickbait lists.

This particular one was posted to Reddit as a TIFU by a "friend of the father" two days ago. Lots of Redditors questioned it too, since he didn't provide any evidence to back up the story. Just a photo of the letter and a few photos of the lunchbox.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
62. I noticed that, too. This article smells.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:27 PM
Aug 2015

" It’s, perhaps, a good thing that the user did not reveal the name of the school that sent this letter because, knowing how the Internet operates nowadays, it might spark a witch hunt."

A witch hunt. Oh, please. Like the writer of the article isn't a shark looking for blood.

Squinch

(50,924 posts)
75. My thought exactly. I wondered if this is just another apocryphal story to tell us how bad
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:19 PM
Aug 2015

those public schools have gotten so we'll all cheer on the end of public education.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. Makes robots out of us all.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:26 AM
Aug 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Where do uncaptured mouse clicks go?[/center][/font][hr]

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
84. Zero tolerace policy is a cop out
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:40 PM
Aug 2015

it allows those in positions of responsibility to avoid the consequence of their decisions. "We were only following policy" , a defense that failed at Nuremburg, yet we allow thousands of officials in government adopt the same attitude when it comes to making decisions.

madville

(7,404 posts)
13. A better idea would be a U.S. Marine Corps
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:41 AM
Aug 2015

Or Army lunchbox or Navy Seals or something to really stir the pot. Let the school ban those and then watch the public outcry.

madville

(7,404 posts)
12. Zero tolerance
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:39 AM
Aug 2015

They either have to allow everything or nothing.

I don't see how the angle that it's a female character is relevant if they are equally banning all super heroes across the board.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
15. The fact that there is no letterhead
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:05 AM
Aug 2015

at all visible and that this looks like it was printed on plain paper caused me to question the authenticity of this story.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
21. The letterhead and signature were covered up because the mother didn't want the school
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:35 AM
Aug 2015

district identified. The coverings are very plain in the picture.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Well, she did kill Max Lord. (He got better.)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:24 AM
Aug 2015

But yes, it's ridiculous to consider WW a symbol of violence. What would have been the harm in identifying the school?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Where do uncaptured mouse clicks go?[/center][/font][hr]

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
22. I am glad the school is not identified.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:11 AM
Aug 2015

They don't deserve to be nationally dragged through the mud. They aren't evil; they made a slightly extreme rule and a kid got sent home for breaking it. Presumably all parents had been told that superheroes were non grata.

I am against the rule myself - but what should happen next is PTA meeting, not a national outcry.

BTW, my kids' preschool cautioned her when she stuck six Lego blocks together and said, "It's a gun! Bang!". They don't want kids playing gun games, see.

The ideology is a liberal one. Maybe it's time for self-reflection.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
29. Zero tolerance is not a "liberal" idea. It was thought up for the convenience of administrators.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:30 AM
Aug 2015

Zero tolerance allows incompetent administrators to not have to actually tackle the bullying that goes on. It is the same whether it is the work place or schools. They administrator gets to not have to actually take a stand by blaming both persons especially when it is clear that there is a bully involved. Zero tolerance is a tool of authoritarians and enables bullying and aggression.

Zero tolerance and the subset of thinking seen in this lunch box issue are not liberal in any way.

The evidence in the picture posted on line is still pretty sketchy since there is little evidence this really happened. It could be someone just wanted to start an internet meme to use for bashing liberals even though the authoritarian zero tolerance policies are not liberal, but support authoritarians. I get your point about keeping the school name out of it, but I still think the evidence that this actually occurred is pretty slim.

Let us put the blame for these failed policies where they belong, the right wing authoritarians.

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
30. I see your point too. But it's hard to
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:46 AM
Aug 2015

have rules that need to be picked apart for every instance.

One kid brings a toy gun to school and is sent home because officials worry the kid could be hassled by cops, or could frighten or bully other students...

Then the next week a kid does the same but is not sent home because it's part of a Halloween costume...

third week, kid brings a real-looking toy gun but isn't sent home because family doesn't speak English and probably didn't understand the rule....

...fourth week, kid says "Enrique brought a gun so I can too!" Result: a kid who's a war refugee sees it and goes into hysterics, scaring everyone, and the school has to apologize and explain, and parents are understandably pissed off because, why are kids allowed to scare each other with guns in a school? while parents of the first kid are like, how come MY kid got sent home and other kids didn't??

To me: it's complicated. And I dont want administrators wasting their time sorting out every separate incident like nannies, when they should be doing important and necessary things to improve education.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
48. Each incidence is unique and should be looked at on an individual basis.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:02 PM
Aug 2015

Zero tolerance is for the lazy and inept. It has proven time and again to be a failure especially for the kids.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
60. Actually it does.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

You're just not seeing it.

Every "situation" is unique and should be dealt with. Your idea of flat out zero tolerance is how a 10 year old ends up with a probation officer.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
66. This.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:49 PM
Aug 2015

Common sense is dead in the name of authoritarian conformity.

The kiddies are never too young to learn who the boss is and that there are no appeals. Sit down, shut up and be a good little sheep or you WILL be punished.

 

AnPak

(31 posts)
59. That's what we pay administrators for...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

... To apply analysis and thought to difficult circumstances.

 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
61. We pay them to inspect lunch boxes every day, for a school of six hundred
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:53 PM
Aug 2015

kids?

And then explain to various annoyed parents who say, "Why was little Johnny's World of Warcraft lunchbox unacceptable, when little Janie was allowed to bring HER lunchbox which had almost as much T and A, and thats discrimination, and youre picking on my chikd because he has Asberger's or he's French or blah blah blah..."

It's a school. Kids push boundaries, then make up "reasons.". Hundreds and hundreds of kids. Every day, ten thousand permutations of dancing on rhe boundary. Parents all want their day in court. Everyone wants to make sure there's no discrimination. Every parent ready to go on The View and call the ACLU if Johnny was discriminated against in some nefarious way.

Hence: In some cases, for some things, schools make hard and fast rules.

I don't want administrators micromanaging lunchboxes. I really don't.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
88. Can't let this one go
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:59 PM
Aug 2015

Please, for the love of Jeebus, show me where someone said they want the adminstrators to inspect lunch boxes every day? Or micromanage them?

What a disingenuous argument and you know it. Cut it with the strawman BS and argue your position honestly.

Zero tolerance/hard and fast rules make it easy for the admins and make life hell for the teachers. The teachers are the ones enforcing all those stupid made up zero tolerance policies.

And while I feel I shouldn't have to argue against your dumb strawman argument, I will say that no one would be inspecting anything if there weren't zero tolerance policies. Everything would be dealt with on a 'when it comes up' basis. Meaning, it's not going to be very often a parent is looking at other kids' lunchboxes and launching complaints. Thus, teachers spend more time teaching and less time policing. Your little anecdote about dueling offended parents would probably happen very, very rarely. Not many parents even show up at school and even fewer show up at lunch. And of those who do, it's probably a tiny percentage that even glance at other kids' lunch boxes, and an even smaller percentage that would have the audacity to complain.



 

Syzygy321

(583 posts)
94. Ok. If you've had kids though - kids
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:27 AM
Aug 2015

who aren't perfect - you've found yourself listening to lots of explanations, excuses, blame-shifting, pleading, requests for special consideration, etc.

As a parent I mostly listen. But as a parent I (a) have only a small number of tykes (b) am not trying to give kids an education with minimal disruption (c) am not in danger of being publicly accused of unfairness or discrimination.

The school made a rule about superheroes. It was a slightly goofy rule. But having made it, they enforced it. Schools do that. Workplaces too. (Mine has zero tolerance for sexual harassment.). I'm fine with that; you're not; okay.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
20. We ban WonderWoman
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:32 AM
Aug 2015

but let unstable individuals arm themselves to the teeth then go out and kill people when their fee fees get hurt. 'Murica, We're number one! We're number one!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. We 'ban' a fictional character that NEVER used a gun or weapon until the 21st century.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:20 AM
Aug 2015

Yet our leaders CANNOT 'ban' guns, even after Sandy Hooks. America has some really fucked up priorities.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. So where on the lunchbox does it show a violent character? A lasso? Yougottabefuckingkiddingme!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:17 AM
Aug 2015

Sounds like the school is scared of their girls having any strong female role models.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
34. No, they ban all superheroes, not just the females.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:00 PM
Aug 2015

So no Superman, Batman, GI Joe, etc... Or Wonder Woman, Storm, Electra, etc...

They all use violence according to the district.

I find it absurd on all levels.

I wonder if they ban football players? They use violence to win a game. Or the US Military... Or Police Officers? They use violence at times.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. That was my first thought too...how about that football team?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015

Any school that promotes contact sports, yet bans fictional characters is somewhat unhinged imo and sends the WRONG message to students imo. It is OK to use violence in a football game (in RL) to win, but fictional characters are scary and bad and banned.

"I find it absurd on all levels." Could NOT have said it any better! That sums it up very nicely!

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
42. Every boy and girl needs role models and heroes.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:35 PM
Aug 2015

At the end of the day. I say to myself - "Did I make a difference? I hope the answer is always yes." - Lenny Robinson (Batman) 1961-2015

The world needs more "Batman" like him. Ever since I read his story back in 2012, he is on my list of role models, and on the hero list of many children.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. I got through H.S., because the X-men were different and that was okay.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:56 PM
Aug 2015

I agree and for a school system to ban HEROES...makes me wonder the IQ of the people running the district!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. Yes I think you hit the nail on the head.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:07 PM
Aug 2015

I forget about the 'zero tolerance' nonsense, it does seem to replace critical thinking skills.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
31. Religious school?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:52 AM
Aug 2015

Sadly typical of the make-believe approach to problem solving forced on children and schools.

Mercilessly crush imaginary threats -- plastic knives and aspirin and ... lunchboxes?

And do nothing about the real ones.



Oooh. So "violent."


DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
90. "Cardigan Woman lunch boxes are acceptable."
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015


Edit: Apparently a hoax. WW and her collabones are vindicated.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
45. Exactly!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:53 PM
Aug 2015

Peace is a virtue. A state of mind, a disposition for benevolence, confidence and justice. It is not simply the absence of war. - Wonder Woman quoting Spinoza

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
82. The 2015 WW is not the lunch-box one. But hey---if this school wants to ban all discussions of wars,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:02 PM
Aug 2015

anti-history people will love it!

0rganism

(23,932 posts)
38. that's what happens when you go DC
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015

if she'd had a proper Marvel lunchbox, she wouldn't have a problem.
/snark

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
47. Well... Storm did kick her ass.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:58 PM
Aug 2015

So not only do you have the thread win, you are technically correct.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
54. Jerks should be more concerned with guns in schools than what's on a lunchbox.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

For me, Wonder Woman is the best. Her husband, the BCCI guy, not so much.

http://fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/13clifford.htm

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
63. "Still, it’d be interesting to note whether this mandate came from a public or private school." ONLY
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:31 PM
Aug 2015

the MAJOR POINT.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
74. This story, real or not (I have my doubts), does not negate the awesomeness of Wonder Woman.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Aug 2015

I never read WW as a kid. But, I now have a niece. So, for her reading pleasure I picked up a ton of WW (at the suggestion of my wife), to have around the house when she comes over.

Needless to say, I read them all. They are fantastic. I learned a lot about the character, and I feel she is an excellent super hero. I really wish my younger self had read her comics.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
80. When the great George Perez rebooted WW
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:43 PM
Aug 2015

after DC's mid-1980s Crisis On Infinite Earths, the book was a must-read for any self-respecting comic geek.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
92. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet?" What!1!?1?!??1!?!!1!???
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:58 PM
Aug 2015

If we can't believe everything we read on the internet, then what CAN we believe?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
93. Superman is not "unwilling to take a life"
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:22 AM
Aug 2015

Although he may, wrongfully, be famous for it. He's killed lots of people over the years, both in the comics and the Christopher Reeve movies (leave Man of Steel alone!).

Wonder Woman is awesome, by the way, and gets awesome-er every year. She's way past her quasi-BDSM, definitely sexist, 1950s origins.

Also, being both a teacher and a patent, I have no doubt that some school, somewhere, is stupid enough to do this, as well as to read any modern comic book or view any modern comic movie and be too stupid to see past the violence. If this story IS real (Snopes has their doubts, as do I), it's probably because other elementary kids, boys, wore superhero clothes and rough housed during recess and they banned superhero stuff as a result.

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