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Apparently, Wonder Woman and the rest of her superhero kind have no place in school or, at the very least, not in one particular school. One little girl had no idea what was to come in simply using a fun Wonder Woman lunch box to carry her PB&J. But alas, it's 2015, and well, the girl's school quickly banned her lunch box from the premises for the most ridiculous reason.
An Imgur user posted a series of pics to the photo-sharing platform revealing that the daughter of a friend was banned from bringing her Wonder Woman lunch box into school. Though the user wouldnt name the school in question, photos of the offending lunch box and the letter from the school were posted. The lunch box, which you can see here, has a old-school image of Wonder Womans face on the front, while the back has her full body holding a lasso with the caption, "As lovely as Aphrodite. As wise as Athena." Despite the imagery, the school considered this a "violent character," and is therefore not allowed to be shown on any students clothes, backpacks and lunch boxes.
According to the letter from this particular school, the dress code in the School Handbook labels superheroes as "violent characters," which they define as "those who solve problems using violence." Its, perhaps, a good thing that the user did not reveal the name of the school that sent this letter because, knowing how the Internet operates nowadays, it might spark a witch hunt. Still, itd be interesting to note whether this mandate came from a public or private school.
As The Mary Sue points out, this action seems to imply that the administration who passed such an action knows very little about the comic book heroes they are banning. Wonder Woman, for instance, is a symbol of female empowerment and often only uses violence as a last resort or to protect lives when danger approaches. The same goes for Superman, who is famous for his unwillingness to take a life. Thats, at least, in the case of the comics and animated series sorry, Man of Steel. That said, oversensitivity has been a talking point as of late. However, this particular action seems to be, as The Mary Sue put it, a blanket ban on violence instead of an informed mandate. Hopefully this will help launch a conversation in this community.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Little-Girl-Banned-From-Bringing-Wonder-Woman-Lunch-Box-School-Because-It-2015-79507.html
demosincebirth
(12,530 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Like a bowling ball dropped on a bare foot hurts.
Wonder what would happen if she brought a My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic lunchbox? Applejack, Rainbow Dash and even Rarity have been known to give a villain or monster a good stiff buck in the mush.
petronius
(26,598 posts)difficult to protect their young charges from exposure to "violent characters" with a definition that broad...
Lorien
(31,935 posts)and Joe Blow 'Merican prefers violence and killing as the first tool for "problem solving" to come out of the box. If that weren't the case we wouldn't have so many citizens worshipping firearms, the military, trigger happy cops, and believing that seeing a naked breast is 100x worse than seeing a woman get her head blown off. Methinks the school isn't upset about "violence", but rather about the idea of a strong female character who can take care of herself.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)...that's going to get Donald Trump elected.
Is your moniker a reference to a power tube configuration, by chance?
Marshall fan here!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in my day. Great for us bassists cos they were almost impossible to overdrive and played insanely loud while staying clean.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)It's unfortunate that the brand developed a bad reputation after Reeves' passing.
Today, Hiwatt has rebranded themselves and is making an effort to return to the MIL-SPEC, point to point wired, thunderously clean loud amps that they were famous for.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Didn't clip until 170 W. Peaked at around 250. I played it through two crazy-efficient Orange 6x12 cabinets. Rickenbacker 4001 with Rotosounds played with a pick for the full Chris Squire monty. Crank that sucker up and it was like standing inside of Jehovah's own stadium-sized Steinway concert grand. I could out-loud a PA that was driven by a Phase Linear 700 AND a Phase Linear 400, and the Hiwatt was as clean as a hound's tooth. That was BIG fun.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:30 AM - Edit history (2)
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I'm a low-wattage tube guy. I have a custom made 18 watt amp (2xEL84) with a Marshall Superlead front end. She's a screamer. I also have a tweed Princeton clone I built (4 watts) that I run into a 2x12 and use with my band. I can't imagine playing a 100 watt amp these days.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)I retired my rockstar dreams a long time ago but I still have a great collection of gear. My 100-watt British-made Marshall Plexi stack is a work of art. It's in wonderful condition and I'll never get rid of it.
Sadly, in the quiet subdivision I reside in these days, it is pretty much unusable. Every now and then though, on a Friday night with a few beers in my belly, I'll get a wild hair and dime it out. This usually lasts no more than 10 minutes before my wife comes screaming, "TURN THAT THING OFF BEFORE THE NEIGHBORS CALL THE POLICE!!!"
But it is a glorious 10 minutes. Standing in front of a dimed Marshall stack is an awesome experience. The whole house shakes.
And nobody has ever called the police.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)In my younger days. Now, in my mid 30s, I protect my ears at all costs. Glad (and lucky) I didn't lose any hearing in my teens and twenties. I will say, however, that my 18 watt through a 2x12 held up just fine next to my buddy's 120 watt Peavey XXX (4xEL34) into a 4x12. He kept telling me my amp wouldn't be loud enough, but my leads cut through the mix nicely.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)
That's the righteous stuff right there, brother.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)I hate to hijack threads...
But I think I'd rather talk about 100 watt Marshall amplifiers, skull-crushing noise, old tubes, beautiful Celestion cabinets, Fender Strats, Les Pauls, fuzz pedals, Roto-vibes.... Anything else except Donald Trump...
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I do the same about once a year. Plug the head into the 4x12, turn that sucker up to 11 and let her rip. The windows in the house buckled so bad once I cracked one... From the basement.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)with a guitarist buddy. He had an incredible tone on his own (Les Paul Kalamazoo edition) but after half a dozen amps, he plugged into a Marshall 50W pure tube head through a 4X12. We just looked at each other and nodded. "yep, that's it." The harmonics popped like through no other amp.
Nothing else sounds like an all-tube Marshall for lead guitar.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)It'd be a simple one. "A Marshall Double-Stack will make you sterile and smile at the same time."
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)What does the story have to do with Trump?
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)...against the "politically correct/zero tolerance/don't offend anyone/accept everyone/always apologize" paradigm that has established itself in American culture over the past two decades. And people are eating it up, white people in particular. And there's still a lot of white people in America.
That's how. Dismiss this at your peril.
There's millions of people out there who think that reprimanding a girl over a freakin' Wonder Woman lunchbox (and it doesn't matter if the story is true, people already believe it is) is perfect example of what "Made America Suck" and here comes Donald Trump to "Make America Great Again!" It doesn't matter that most people have no idea where Donald Trump stands on the issues (and I'm not sure even Trump himself knows).
I don't know if Trump has heard of this story but you can bet that if he did, he'd rail against it in such a way to blast zero tolerance policies across the nation. People would cheer and his poll numbers would again rise.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And it should be profoundly embarrassing to anyone with a lick of sense.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Because that's what Trump really is, a fascist. People might not recognize it as such because so many associate fascism with salutes and spiffy military uniforms. He may not be shouting and sputtering into a microphone like Hitler, face red with fury, but it's all there in his words.
And we shouldn't ever forget that, as history has demonstrated, fascism can sell very well. It's the perfect antidote to an angry population looking for someone to blame for their perceived misfortunes.
Think it can't ever happen here? Yes, it can.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)but tRUMP is a loudmouthed, blowhard nationalistic bully and goon who thinks he's All That and King Shit from Turd Hill besides. A lot like this guy, for whom it did not end at all well after the partisans got him:
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)If a school is banning WW lunchbox, they do deserve some flack. However, if they are implementing some sort of new policy, someone may be overreacting, but public schools must try to appear consistent in enforcing their standards.
Would really like a little more factual information, especially the name of the school or at least whether it is a public school.
The zero tolerance nonsense that has been peddled in public schools for quite awhile does deserve to be mocked and scorned in order to make administrators see the error and harm this ridiculous concept does to kids, especially kids who are bullied.
Thanks for posting.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Too much BS floating around the Internet to believe crap without solid cites.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)It's always surprising how much Reddit content gets picked up by the major media without verification, or how many Reddit discussions get transformed into Internet memes or clickbait lists.
This particular one was posted to Reddit as a TIFU by a "friend of the father" two days ago. Lots of Redditors questioned it too, since he didn't provide any evidence to back up the story. Just a photo of the letter and a few photos of the lunchbox.
struggle4progress
(118,237 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)" Its, perhaps, a good thing that the user did not reveal the name of the school that sent this letter because, knowing how the Internet operates nowadays, it might spark a witch hunt."
A witch hunt. Oh, please. Like the writer of the article isn't a shark looking for blood.
Squinch
(50,924 posts)those public schools have gotten so we'll all cheer on the end of public education.
romanic
(2,841 posts)I say zero tolerance makes zero sense.
melm00se
(4,987 posts)is the bureaucratic dream: you can take action with no thought and risk.
randome
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gladium et scutum
(806 posts)it allows those in positions of responsibility to avoid the consequence of their decisions. "We were only following policy" , a defense that failed at Nuremburg, yet we allow thousands of officials in government adopt the same attitude when it comes to making decisions.
ornotna
(10,796 posts)If a GI Joe lunch box would pass muster.
madville
(7,404 posts)Or Army lunchbox or Navy Seals or something to really stir the pot. Let the school ban those and then watch the public outcry.
AnPak
(31 posts)I believe the school quickly backed down...
madville
(7,404 posts)They either have to allow everything or nothing.
I don't see how the angle that it's a female character is relevant if they are equally banning all super heroes across the board.
ileus
(15,396 posts)madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)at all visible and that this looks like it was printed on plain paper caused me to question the authenticity of this story.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)district identified. The coverings are very plain in the picture.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Too many people making too many stupid laws/rules.
randome
(34,845 posts)But yes, it's ridiculous to consider WW a symbol of violence. What would have been the harm in identifying the school?
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Syzygy321
(583 posts)They don't deserve to be nationally dragged through the mud. They aren't evil; they made a slightly extreme rule and a kid got sent home for breaking it. Presumably all parents had been told that superheroes were non grata.
I am against the rule myself - but what should happen next is PTA meeting, not a national outcry.
BTW, my kids' preschool cautioned her when she stuck six Lego blocks together and said, "It's a gun! Bang!". They don't want kids playing gun games, see.
The ideology is a liberal one. Maybe it's time for self-reflection.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Zero tolerance allows incompetent administrators to not have to actually tackle the bullying that goes on. It is the same whether it is the work place or schools. They administrator gets to not have to actually take a stand by blaming both persons especially when it is clear that there is a bully involved. Zero tolerance is a tool of authoritarians and enables bullying and aggression.
Zero tolerance and the subset of thinking seen in this lunch box issue are not liberal in any way.
The evidence in the picture posted on line is still pretty sketchy since there is little evidence this really happened. It could be someone just wanted to start an internet meme to use for bashing liberals even though the authoritarian zero tolerance policies are not liberal, but support authoritarians. I get your point about keeping the school name out of it, but I still think the evidence that this actually occurred is pretty slim.
Let us put the blame for these failed policies where they belong, the right wing authoritarians.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)have rules that need to be picked apart for every instance.
One kid brings a toy gun to school and is sent home because officials worry the kid could be hassled by cops, or could frighten or bully other students...
Then the next week a kid does the same but is not sent home because it's part of a Halloween costume...
third week, kid brings a real-looking toy gun but isn't sent home because family doesn't speak English and probably didn't understand the rule....
...fourth week, kid says "Enrique brought a gun so I can too!" Result: a kid who's a war refugee sees it and goes into hysterics, scaring everyone, and the school has to apologize and explain, and parents are understandably pissed off because, why are kids allowed to scare each other with guns in a school? while parents of the first kid are like, how come MY kid got sent home and other kids didn't??
To me: it's complicated. And I dont want administrators wasting their time sorting out every separate incident like nannies, when they should be doing important and necessary things to improve education.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Zero tolerance is for the lazy and inept. It has proven time and again to be a failure especially for the kids.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)You're just not seeing it.
Every "situation" is unique and should be dealt with. Your idea of flat out zero tolerance is how a 10 year old ends up with a probation officer.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Common sense is dead in the name of authoritarian conformity.
The kiddies are never too young to learn who the boss is and that there are no appeals. Sit down, shut up and be a good little sheep or you WILL be punished.
AnPak
(31 posts)... To apply analysis and thought to difficult circumstances.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)kids?
And then explain to various annoyed parents who say, "Why was little Johnny's World of Warcraft lunchbox unacceptable, when little Janie was allowed to bring HER lunchbox which had almost as much T and A, and thats discrimination, and youre picking on my chikd because he has Asberger's or he's French or blah blah blah..."
It's a school. Kids push boundaries, then make up "reasons.". Hundreds and hundreds of kids. Every day, ten thousand permutations of dancing on rhe boundary. Parents all want their day in court. Everyone wants to make sure there's no discrimination. Every parent ready to go on The View and call the ACLU if Johnny was discriminated against in some nefarious way.
Hence: In some cases, for some things, schools make hard and fast rules.
I don't want administrators micromanaging lunchboxes. I really don't.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Please, for the love of Jeebus, show me where someone said they want the adminstrators to inspect lunch boxes every day? Or micromanage them?
What a disingenuous argument and you know it. Cut it with the strawman BS and argue your position honestly.
Zero tolerance/hard and fast rules make it easy for the admins and make life hell for the teachers. The teachers are the ones enforcing all those stupid made up zero tolerance policies.
And while I feel I shouldn't have to argue against your dumb strawman argument, I will say that no one would be inspecting anything if there weren't zero tolerance policies. Everything would be dealt with on a 'when it comes up' basis. Meaning, it's not going to be very often a parent is looking at other kids' lunchboxes and launching complaints. Thus, teachers spend more time teaching and less time policing. Your little anecdote about dueling offended parents would probably happen very, very rarely. Not many parents even show up at school and even fewer show up at lunch. And of those who do, it's probably a tiny percentage that even glance at other kids' lunch boxes, and an even smaller percentage that would have the audacity to complain.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)who aren't perfect - you've found yourself listening to lots of explanations, excuses, blame-shifting, pleading, requests for special consideration, etc.
As a parent I mostly listen. But as a parent I (a) have only a small number of tykes (b) am not trying to give kids an education with minimal disruption (c) am not in danger of being publicly accused of unfairness or discrimination.
The school made a rule about superheroes. It was a slightly goofy rule. But having made it, they enforced it. Schools do that. Workplaces too. (Mine has zero tolerance for sexual harassment.). I'm fine with that; you're not; okay.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)but let unstable individuals arm themselves to the teeth then go out and kill people when their fee fees get hurt. 'Murica, We're number one! We're number one!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Yet our leaders CANNOT 'ban' guns, even after Sandy Hooks. America has some really fucked up priorities.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Sounds like the school is scared of their girls having any strong female role models.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)So no Superman, Batman, GI Joe, etc... Or Wonder Woman, Storm, Electra, etc...
They all use violence according to the district.
I find it absurd on all levels.
I wonder if they ban football players? They use violence to win a game. Or the US Military... Or Police Officers? They use violence at times.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Any school that promotes contact sports, yet bans fictional characters is somewhat unhinged imo and sends the WRONG message to students imo. It is OK to use violence in a football game (in RL) to win, but fictional characters are scary and bad and banned.
"I find it absurd on all levels." Could NOT have said it any better! That sums it up very nicely!
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)At the end of the day. I say to myself - "Did I make a difference? I hope the answer is always yes." - Lenny Robinson (Batman) 1961-2015
The world needs more "Batman" like him. Ever since I read his story back in 2012, he is on my list of role models, and on the hero list of many children.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I agree and for a school system to ban HEROES...makes me wonder the IQ of the people running the district!
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Zero tolerance removes the thought process for the administrators.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I forget about the 'zero tolerance' nonsense, it does seem to replace critical thinking skills.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)calikid
(584 posts)on this insanity.
Yui? Ohhh Yuuuuiiii, where are you?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Sadly typical of the make-believe approach to problem solving forced on children and schools.
Mercilessly crush imaginary threats -- plastic knives and aspirin and ... lunchboxes?
And do nothing about the real ones.
Oooh. So "violent."
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Edit: Apparently a hoax. WW and her collabones are vindicated.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Cause yknow Wonder Woman isn't wearing proper attire.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Peace is a virtue. A state of mind, a disposition for benevolence, confidence and justice. It is not simply the absence of war. - Wonder Woman quoting Spinoza
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)In fact, she's an all around badass.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)anti-history people will love it!
AnPak
(31 posts)0rganism
(23,932 posts)if she'd had a proper Marvel lunchbox, she wouldn't have a problem.
/snark
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)So not only do you have the thread win, you are technically correct.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)For me, Wonder Woman is the best. Her husband, the BCCI guy, not so much.
http://fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/13clifford.htm
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)the MAJOR POINT.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)It says metal lunchboxes have fallen into disfavor and are not banned.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I never read WW as a kid. But, I now have a niece. So, for her reading pleasure I picked up a ton of WW (at the suggestion of my wife), to have around the house when she comes over.
Needless to say, I read them all. They are fantastic. I learned a lot about the character, and I feel she is an excellent super hero. I really wish my younger self had read her comics.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)after DC's mid-1980s Crisis On Infinite Earths, the book was a must-read for any self-respecting comic geek.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)gunz.
Omaha Steve
(99,506 posts)She is a huge Wonder Woman fan.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)struggle4progress
(118,237 posts)If we can't believe everything we read on the internet, then what CAN we believe?
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Although he may, wrongfully, be famous for it. He's killed lots of people over the years, both in the comics and the Christopher Reeve movies (leave Man of Steel alone!).
Wonder Woman is awesome, by the way, and gets awesome-er every year. She's way past her quasi-BDSM, definitely sexist, 1950s origins.
Also, being both a teacher and a patent, I have no doubt that some school, somewhere, is stupid enough to do this, as well as to read any modern comic book or view any modern comic movie and be too stupid to see past the violence. If this story IS real (Snopes has their doubts, as do I), it's probably because other elementary kids, boys, wore superhero clothes and rough housed during recess and they banned superhero stuff as a result.