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akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:28 AM Sep 2015

I really do not understand why the GOP wants to defund Planned Parenthood!

That system is totally geared towards womens well being, how on earth the GOP wants to defund it. It is a necessity for women.

Gosh, I benefitted from it when I moved to Barbados in 1990, had to go there to get examined and then they recommended a doctor for me to see.

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I really do not understand why the GOP wants to defund Planned Parenthood! (Original Post) akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 OP
I think they are pandering to their base and it is a serious miscalculation ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2015 #1
Mosty it's not pandering. It's who they are. It's about abortion. cheapdate Sep 2015 #3
It's who their base is. That's not how the majority thinks. ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2015 #8
If that's what you think, fine. cheapdate Sep 2015 #12
And what percent of what PP does is abortion? xfundy Sep 2015 #13
It's a very small part. cheapdate Sep 2015 #19
I think some of them are pandering, as you say, and that it's a total miscalculation. drm604 Sep 2015 #5
If the election were this November then it would hurt yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #6
What I gather from the GOP is that women are not important. akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #2
It's a smidgen on the budget yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #4
Good, am so glad it passed! So many women benefited from PP, it is unbelievable! akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #7
Yes it was repulsive and hypocritical. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #10
It's really simple Gman Sep 2015 #9
its all a dance for their base MFM008 Sep 2015 #11
They choose a target and go after it. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #14
Religiously Insane fruitcakes control the GOP. B Calm Sep 2015 #15
They intend to get rid of all safety nets. PP is just, for them, low-hanging fruit and a djean111 Sep 2015 #16
Because women are evil, responsible for original sin and must be punished PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #17
They think PP kills babies and harvests their organs? oberliner Sep 2015 #18
further their control of women. and it's not the "GOP" per say... Javaman Sep 2015 #20

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
1. I think they are pandering to their base and it is a serious miscalculation
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:31 AM
Sep 2015

that will hurt them in the election.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
3. Mosty it's not pandering. It's who they are. It's about abortion.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:51 AM
Sep 2015

When they say abortion is about "murdering babies", they mean it. Any other perspective on the matter is what William James called a "dead hypothesis" for them. Abortion is murder. Period. That's how they think.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
8. It's who their base is. That's not how the majority thinks.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:06 AM
Sep 2015

I do think they are full of crap and will say anything for votes. The base they are speaking to believe that, but I think the candidates are just saying whatever it takes to get the nomination. However, the independents will be very important to the election and recent history has shown that actions during the primary can have consequences in the general. It is not as easy as at used to be to move to the center and hope people forget what you said and did in the primaries in the age of social media.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
12. If that's what you think, fine.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:45 AM
Sep 2015

But, I'd say that if you doubt the conviction of Reps. Trey Gowdy, Marsha Blackburn, Roy Blount, Diane Black, Todd Akin, Justin Amash, Mo Brooks, or any one of the many, many representatives earning a score of 100% for their voting record from the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), then you're mistaken.

Here's the NRLC scorecard:
http://capwiz.com/nrlc/scorecard.xc?chamber=H&state=US&session=114&x=11&y=14

Here's the Susan B. Anthony list of pro-life incoming congress members:
http://www.sba-list.org/node/2606

I'm from Tennessee. Almost our entire delegation has a NRLC score or 100%. I can tell you for certain, that these people are for real. It's not a "game" to them. It's a life and death struggle of good versus evil. They are the base.




xfundy

(5,105 posts)
13. And what percent of what PP does is abortion?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:09 AM
Sep 2015

I think it's like 3%, but even if it be 30%, still a small part.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
19. It's a very small part.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:49 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:14 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm staunchly pro-choice, as are my wife, my family, and most of my true friends.

But I live in the deep red, deep conservative, evangelical South.

What I'm saying -- and I say this with high confidence based on a lifetime of close, personal interaction with people who are deeply against abortion -- is that congress members, such as Tennessee Reps. Marsha Blackburn, Diane Black, and Scott DesJarlais, are not "pandering". They share the deeply held convictions of "the base" that abortion is murder.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
5. I think some of them are pandering, as you say, and that it's a total miscalculation.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:53 AM
Sep 2015

But I also think that some of them may be true believer anti-choicers who believe that PP is evil and needs to be stopped.

The GOP originally pandered to these people for votes, but now they've been infested by the very people they were pandering too, which was the inevitable outcome of that strategy.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. If the election were this November then it would hurt
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:54 AM
Sep 2015

14 months from now? Who knows. That's a lifetime of politics yet to come.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
2. What I gather from the GOP is that women are not important.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:35 AM
Sep 2015

Looking at how they are grilling the CEO of PP is so frigging annoying, you want to pelt something at the TV!

These GOP assholes are so useless and their base is pandering to them. What happened to positive thinking in the US?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. It's a smidgen on the budget
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:52 AM
Sep 2015

It's hardly worth the energy of fighting it because the money is so small. But leave it Cruz to yell and scream about it. By the way it passed 77-19. So even Repugs yawned at cruz's antics.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
7. Good, am so glad it passed! So many women benefited from PP, it is unbelievable!
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:58 AM
Sep 2015

Did you see that asshole bashing the CEO about her salary. How low are these republicans going to go?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
10. Yes it was repulsive and hypocritical.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:10 AM
Sep 2015

It was sexist too because except for the banks(which they were begging for money). They have never questioned CEO men's salaries ever.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
9. It's really simple
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:08 AM
Sep 2015

2016 is an election year. It's simply grandstanding. Red meat for the base. Get out the vote stuff.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
11. its all a dance for their base
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:32 AM
Sep 2015

when I was younger, I used them for an examination and my pregnancy test. That positive pregnancy test turned 32 yesterday.
Not everyone has used it for abortion and those idiots could care less.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
14. They choose a target and go after it.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:33 AM
Sep 2015

Birth control? It doesn't matter. They target again and again. Just don't be surprised to who is next. Attack...hate..and attack.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
16. They intend to get rid of all safety nets. PP is just, for them, low-hanging fruit and a
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:43 AM
Sep 2015

great sound bite and campaign opportunity.
Poor GOP voters will vote against their best interests, as usual.
First they came for ACORN, then PP, and then I will assume that Medicaid, Medicare, the ACA, and Social Security and Disability are on their list.
IMO they are just greasing the skids. Enough DINOs, and they will be able to check all those items off of their list.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. They think PP kills babies and harvests their organs?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:18 AM
Sep 2015

Or they think their tea party constituents believe that so they want to seem to be standing up for "life" or something?

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
20. further their control of women. and it's not the "GOP" per say...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:13 AM
Sep 2015

it's the ultra right arm of the right wing.

they know that the majority of women vote for the Democratic Party.

this is just part of a long term plan to silence women.

first it's their bodies, then it's their voice and finally their vote.

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