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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPolice smashed car window to rescue a baby on the passenger seat - but there was one problem
Police were left red-faced when they broke into a locked car to rescue what they thought was a baby - only for them to quickly realise they had saved a doll.
Janaih Rattray, 10, left her toy named Ryan on the seat of her sister Delesia's Vauxhall Corsa which was parked up outside a hospital.
Two officers decided to take action after asking the advice of nurses who agreed the "extremely lifelike" doll was a real infant."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-smashed-car-window-rescue-6546174
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)I think those babies would be popular for the car pool lane in California.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I think I would have thought it was a baby too.
yuiyoshida
(41,819 posts)very realistic.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)I've never heard of someone getting their car window broken to rescue a barbie.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I hope you're not making some kind of blonde joke.
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)You're very quick-witted, pinboy3niner. One of the best on DU.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)They shouldn't make them quite that real looking.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)The artist paints the veins, mottled skin and everything that makes it look like a real baby
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)several years ago about women in U.K. and these baby dolls. I don't recall the details except that it creeped me out.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)The ONLY detail I can see that seems off is the belly button on the lower picture. Otherwise I would swear those are both actual human infants.
alcina
(602 posts)Coco is my favourite.
http://www.bradfordexchange.ca/products/116845001_lifelike-baby-monkey-doll.html
polly7
(20,582 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)they're called "reborns", and are custom made, and very expensive.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I hope to get this good, eventually.
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polly7
(20,582 posts)Here's a few more. I'm not a collector, I love making them though which is sort of strange because I never played with a doll in my life. I did get one for my 10th birthday but as soon as I opened it up and saw her my brother ran by, grabbed her and ripped her head off. These aren't mine either, I'm not nearly this good yet. I believe a couple of these sold for over a thousand dollars. One woman I met online and who is helping me was a portrait artist who makes them now and sells to collectors (Cher is one) who follow her and spend sometimes up to seven thousand or more for one. I thought I had one of hers uploaded but can't find it.
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These can have up to 30 layers of paint (one for capillaries, one for mottling, etc.) and are baked in between each - or can be done with layers of air-dry paints then sealed. Each hair is placed in individually with different gauge needles, either the same glass eyes used for human prosthetics or acrylic eyes can be used. I know this isn't interesting to most, but they really can be a lot of work to make! and really are an art, it's just that some get a bit silly with them and give it all a bad name.
shanti
(21,675 posts)kudos to your friend! interesting about cher, who knew?
polly7
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And those were made from gorgeous sculpts. Some of the sculptors selling these kits have their clay sculpts cast and molded into silicone which they then paint, root and sell, usually only about only ten can be made before the molds are no good anymore. These silicones can sell for tens of thousands. Check this out, she's a lady from Australia who just moved to the U.S. - we're all in a doll forum online together (which is where I found out Cher collects them).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-Romie-Baby-Full-Bodied-solid-SILICONE-doll-sculpted-reborn-by-Romie-Strydom-/171860931647?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2803b5b43f Crap, I just looked and all the pics are gone. But here's her website. http://romiesdollstudio.com/ Not one of these silicones sold for less than 10,000.00. Her blank vinyl kits are all limited editions - of say, 300 total, and sell for up to about 150.00 - finished, they vary of course, depending on the result and skill of the artist painting and finishing them - from a couple of hundred to ten thousand dollars.
A kit includes a blank head and limbs, with the option of buying a belly plate to paint also - usually for photos to sell the doll. You paint up to 30 layers - one for each flesh tone, capillaries, milk bumps, etc. etc. and bake each time between each layer, add texture finishes, and seal, root in individual eyelashes, seal from the inside the hair you've rooted one strand at a time - which usually takes me up to about 60 hours for one head, make your own body, stuff and weight everything, dress them nice (I make my own clothes and knit and crochet their sweaters and hats) - and voila, a doll for someone to love (or hate, I guess).
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This is the friend I had mentioned who sells some of her dolls to Cher. She was a portrait artist who was fascinated by seeing some of the earlier artists who had done them and spends most of her time doing this now, hers sell for up to 10,000.00. She helps me a lot - I send her progress pictures, she gives me advice - or tells me to start over ..., and we trade blank kits back and forth all the time as she looks for mostly the very limited edition sculpts and some aren't sold in the U.S. - the sculptors she mostly uses are from Canada. I got to know her well from that doll forum years ago, she's an amazing lady.
http://hhgalleries.com/index.php
This is my favourite of hers:
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I did the same kit and took it into the nursing home nearest me about a month ago .... mine wasn't nearly! as good as hers but one lady claimed her right away, I think she likes her.
(Yes, it's art.)
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)scared or were crying. Is it easier to make them look more natural if they look sad or worried? Or maybe it's just the pics you selected, I have no idea. Just struck me as sort of odd. Theres nothing cuter than a happy baby!
polly7
(20,582 posts)I didn't think so, none of them are crying.
But these aren't babies, they're dolls.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)I thought were sweet and well done. There are plenty of smiling kits to do up ............ why don't you google them?
Doesn't seem that difficult to understand, really.
Why do some traditional artists never paint pigs? Some paint cows ............... why not pigs!?!?!?!?!! That's just freakish, isn't it?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)I do sell some, too. I'm not as good as the artists whose doll pictures I've posted, so haven't made nearly as much - my highest so far was 600.00 Cdn. I even have my own little following here if you can imagine! - friends who want me to try to find blank kit sculpts of their children as babies. I've done two so far .......... they take a LOT of time - micro-rooting the hair and making sure the hairline is perfect takes many, many hours/days/weeks. Depending on your painting and shading technique, and if you can find a blank kit that is even somewhat similar to real pictures of babies and toddlers, you can get an amazingly close resemblance. These aren't for children, they are baked many, many times and sealed very well, but as with all ART, they can be damaged with too much handling.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)perturbed looking ones. Interesting. I know a lot of people LOVE tiny little babies but to me they are sort of scary- especially if they aren't happy.
I do much better around toddlers and teens, LOL.
polly7
(20,582 posts)The paints used are heat-set Genesis paints specially made for painting vinyl. They don't change the texture of the vinyl itself, but are very, very durable and will last forever if set correctly and sealed. Some use acrylic paints, which are also as durable when sealed - it's just personal preference, also, the fumes with the heat-set paints bother a lot of people. Putting the kits together and weighting and stuffing makes all the difference in how cuddly they are.
As far as what residents in nursing homes prefer .... so far, none of mine have been rejected - from grumpy, to happy.
There really are so many sculpts out there to choose from - some artists prefer sleeping babies, some awake and not happy, or smiling. I love them all - there's a different challenge and something new to learn with each. The eyes can be really expensive, the glass eyes preferred by collectors can cost up to 50.00. The soft and silky goat mohair I like, for babies, can cost up to 100.00 or more per 1/2 oz. Real human hair I like to use for toddlers - sanitized and non-treated - usually costs 70.00 to 135.00 or so per 1/2 oz. It's not cheap to make these dolls.
I love real grumpy babies. It's fun to try all the silly things you have to to make them smile. Love all babies, all toddlers, all teens.
Doll kits with a lot of expression and detail are my favourites.
Check this doll out, it's a sculpt by Cassie Brace Peek who said it reminded her of her son. I think he's adorable. Some of them make you smile just looking at them (or not, and can freak you out - which is perfectly fine!, but I smile).:
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My very first ones we used for our Haunted House here on Halloween that year. They were bad. It was pretty funny seeing the reactions. I let two little girls take them home after, I'm sure their parents were wondering wtf.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)They look unhappy, or scared.
And why are they all female dolls (except for possibly one?)
polly7
(20,582 posts)I make a lot of mine into boy dolls - so do most, it just depends on what you think the blank sculpt most looks like. There are happy sculpts, sad ones, sleeping, awake - hundreds to choose from.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)you can tell by the features which you prefer to do them up as. ie.:larger lips I like to make into girl babies, more prominent chins - boys. Again, it's just personal preference. Most, you can dress either as a boy or girl and they'll look perfectly fine.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)differences jump out at you. I'm really good as discerning differences in anatomy, since it is part of my job. I can guess people measurements incredibly accurately, and rate how average their posture and proportions are. But faces? OMG, if I ever had to describe someone for a police sketch, I'd be shit out of luck. Interesting.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I studied anatomy in my EMS and HC/SCA courses and have been trying to learn much more about proportions, especially for babies. I want to start sculpting, but have a lot of learning to do first.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)aside from the flammability requirements , endless testing and concern over trims, etc, the fit of all sleepwear is supposed to be skin tight. They actually give them measurements for the garments themselves, it's totally standardized- so there's not much "work" involved and not something small upstart companies can afford to do because of testing costs.
Kids clothing is easy because it doesn't change much fit wise like womens' stuff does, it's mostly decorative stuff that changes. The only big thing that has happened is the size and style of diapers! Toddlers' clothing Hips used to size same or bigger than the larger "Kids" fit, because the diapers were so big years back, and then suddenly that changed. We actually put diapers on the little toddler forms, while adult forms are made to represent people wearing underwear. Yep.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I'd never put much thought into what goes into manufacturing clothing apart from design. Definitely. the fitting is the most important.
You should try sculpting, you'd probably be good at it. Or I could sculpt heads, you do the bodies and we make a fortune.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)She's been bugging me to get it finished, so I need to get on that. Mama had seen some great reborns at a doll shop, looked at the price and said "Hey, you can do that! Make me one.". This is her response to anything crafty she sees. Apparently, I can do anything.
My sister bought the kit and supplies, and I get to do the labor. Of course, I've never reborned before, so it's been a learning experience.
They are a lot of work. Layers of paint, baking between each (I'm using Genesis heat-set oil paints), then the rooting can take forever. I'm almost at the point of doing the hair, and I'm dreading it because of my arthritis and carpal tunnel. eek
polly7
(20,582 posts)I'm sorry about your carpal tunnel and arthritis. Heating a bag of rice first in the microwave and putting it in the head softens up the vinyl, that may help make it easier for you. Have you considered painting hair? I've seen some amazing painted hair babies - also painted hair with minimal mohair sparsely rooted just on top for newborns - it looks great. I think I have some tutorials here I could pm you if you haven't done it before and want to try it.
This one has painted hair and eyebrows:
Good luck with yours, it's really a lot of fun, isn't it? When it's all done and put together you'll be so happy.
Your mom sounds a lot like mine.
Another from a friend of mine just recently, she's gorgeous. Yes, these are art.
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Having worked in a morgue, I have to say that the similarity between these dolls and corpses of actual infants is unsettling.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)so while I appreciate the work that goes into these and the artistry, they somehow make me sad.
There's an historical "doll" from a poor child (maybe during Depression), it's an old shoe wrapped in cloth.
Juxtaposed with these dolls, there seems to be a very wide gap in both money, art and imagination.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)And some people use the most pathetic examples of those people to slime all others.
Good for you ................ don't look at it, don't buy it, if you see an elderly person cuddling one, snatch it up and rip its head off.
And some of the artists who sculpt and produce these kits are male - incredibly talented, as well as some artists who finish them, some are even collectors. You really don't know all you think you do.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)thousands selling those dolls is, well, disturbing.
I have not commented on your charity work, because that is not my business. I cannot imagine using anything other than a completely washable doll with patients, but that's just me.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Children being murdered, the homeless, war, bigotry, poverty ................ this? Nah. Hope your nightmares over it aren't too bad.
These can be wiped down, with soap, sanitizer and alcohol even. The hair can be washed gently. If they're used for another resident and are still in decent shape, I've gone in to change the body out. Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Would LOVE to see one.
polly7
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I enjoy wax museums and most other types of realistic art as well.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)at memento mori for example..... that is not properly art.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They're all so sad looking. I guess they are for people who like to comfort them or something? It's unsettling to me I guess because they will never look happy! I'm guessing the sleeping one isn't waking up anytime soon either. Bummer.
polly7
(20,582 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)But these aren't babies. They're dolls. Just like the porcelain and bisque dolls people have collected for centuries. The fun part (well, all of it's fun, actually) for people doing up the vinyl kits is in seeing just how differently each sculpt ends up, depending on the artist painting and finishing them.
And yes, they're art.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Which also, by no sense of the imagination are considered art. They do show incredible craftsmanship though, wow.
polly7
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Tell the people making tens of thousands from them they aren't. Or the collectors who buy them for that.
Painting on vinyl instead of canvas - the end results for each kit painted so differently by many people can be amazing, which is the most interesting for me.
Art is creativity expressed (in any medium) - which is exactly what working with these blank pieces of vinyl results in.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)polly7
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And ........ I don't have Cher's email address. Maybe you can google that too.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)doesn't make it art.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Many, many others do, and make good livings from it.
I don't think a lot of stuff I've seen in museums is art either, but that's just my humble opinion, and you know what they say about those.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Do you blast portrait artists who paint babies? Wtf shouldn't we try to make a living at something that brings others pleasure. It's not for you ......... bfd. Get over it.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Don't like it, don't buy one or even look.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)as prosthetic human eyes. They're made in Germany from the same manufacturer and are costly, but most collectors prefer them.
shanti
(21,675 posts)is adorable.
polly7
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She's from a Reva Schick sculpt. Many of the sculptors sculpted and sold porcelain dolls first for many years before they started having them molded into vinyl kits. Most previously sold their sculpt to places like Ashton Drake Galleries as porcelains, but fewer people are collecting those anymore. Here's another sweet one done by a friend of mine, I love her. She's a Kellie Becket kit, I believe there were only 25 made in the world - I have one, but haven't started her yet. There are sculptors from all over the world, most from Germany, and they manufacture thousands of kits from infants, to toddlers, to even small children. A museum in Germany has some of the most beautiful dolls I've ever seen.
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It's an art, and like all kinds of art has it's lovers and haters. Whatever.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)The expression and the whole shot.
polly7
(20,582 posts)The artist who did her gives lessons all around the U.S. at major doll shows. She's great.
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)your friend is very talented. My daughter has one of these dolls and her friend has a few more. I prefer to customize fashion (12" size) size dolls myself but I can really appreciate the work that must go into creating one of these dolls. Do you or your friend have a website that you sell your dolls from? If so, please pm same to me. Or if not, if you know anything about the kit that the fourth doll in the light green outfit in the photos above comes from, would like to know more about that one. Thanks.
polly7
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I've seen some customized fashion dolls and they are amazing. How can you do that kind of work on such tiny faces? The ones I saw were beautiful.
I don't have a website, I just mainly advertise here locally and sell to friends or friends of friends, but we're all on a doll forum I will pm you a link to, also on FaceBook in many doll groups where I'd be glad to add you. That fourth baby is the Sabrina sculpt by Reva Schick. She's gorgeous and I think one of the most realistic sculpts, no matter who does her up, that I've ever seen. Jackie, an online friend from that forum, did one of her prototypes. I bet you could do a great job on her yourself. There are a few places in NA to buy her, sometimes she comes on sale but I don't think she is right now:
http://www.irresistables.com/results.cgis?catalog=&keywords=sabrina - she's on sale here, I see! (And send a note to Esther, the lady who runs that site and ask for 5% off as a new purchaser, she does that).
This is where I do most of my ordering from - (it's a Canadian site but with free shipping on any order over 100.00 for everyone.) -
https://macphersoncrafts.com/en/ I don't see Sabrina here anymore.
This is the place in Europe where many sculptors sell from - a lot of these aren't available in NA - http://www.puppen-traumland.de/?language=en - if you become a member, you get an automatic discount on every purchase.
Some sculptors also only have their own websites and don't sell through a distributor.
Also, EBay is a great place to buy kits if you live in the U.S. - the shipping to up here is terrible and with our dollar, makes it too high for me. Just type in the name of a kit and there will probably be some up for sale.
ETA: Just from looking around, I have a feeling Sabrina might not be sold in NA much longer, once she's sold out at Irresistables you may have to purchase her from Europe.
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)it's very helpful.
As for the tiny faces, well, I bought dolls by some artists' work that I liked and found out what kind of brushes and paint I should be using. It helped to see how other people painted the faces and what tools they used. I also use headband magnifier that help a lot with this kind of work.
I've made quite a few dolls for charity auctions and given ones away to friends and relatives. Wish I had more time to work on my customizing though!
polly7
(20,582 posts)it's still really hard to do detail work without it.
Yes, watching what others have done and thinking how you'd do your own version is what's helped me most too. Good on you for your charity work, that's great. I've given away some of mine too to little nieces. They aren't really supposed to be meant for children but I don't care - they loved them and wanted one so got them for Christmas.
I'm going to post a few other links for blank kits in the U.S. here that I forgot earlier.
http://www.dollssoreal.com/
http://www.dollsbysandie.com/
polly7
(20,582 posts)Most of mine I donate to nursing homes around here as therapy dolls for people with Dementia or Alzheimer's ... they have a calming effect on a lot of residents who find it difficult to settle down or sleep at night, and for some who just like to sit and cuddle them.
Then, there are collectors who love them.
Also some who go overboard and treat them like real babies - play feeding them, taking them out in strollers, etc. - that, I don't understand, but it's their life.
I think the police here did the right thing, they couldn't have been sure it wasn't a real baby.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Look at the uncanny valley responses on this thread. What if you were a patient having that response and were unable to articulate it?
polly7
(20,582 posts)I've worked in hospitals and nursing homes and pretty much have a good idea which residents are good candidates and which aren't, they aren't forced on anyone, the head R.N. (and family, if available), are always consulted with first. Those who are drawn to them and able to reach out for them or make any affirmative gesture, if not able to vocalize, will get one. Those that can't, won't. They get passed on, later. Why would ANYONE force a doll or anything else on someone unable to articulate??? That makes no sense. We don't do it. But thanks for your concern ............... no, they're not given to anyone who isn't able to express a desire in some way for one.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)When my Dad had to be placed in an assisted living facility with a dementia section, I saw firsthand how helpful they are with dementia patients.
polly7
(20,582 posts)In our district we work as Special-Care-Aides during the day while on call with the ambulance (I don't anymore, I'm on casual now and mainly take transfers but fill in occasionally for nights and normal weekend shifts), so when I took up this, I took one in to show one of my favourite ladies. She was getting along into her dementia and I knew didn't sleep well, and many times would still be up if we got home from a call and back to the home to drop off paperwork in the middle of the night. She loved it, and would relax and at least sit until she fell asleep - otherwise she was pacing the halls, put back to bed, and up again in half an hour or so - over and over all night long. It's calming and gives them something to focus on.
Thanks very much for your kind words. I'm sorry your dad is going through it - it's so hard for family.
renate
(13,776 posts)I hadn't thought of it for ages, but I remember some of the residents of a nursing home where I volunteered being so comforted by having a baby to hold. You are really doing a wonderful thing.
polly7
(20,582 posts)A lot of us do it and enjoy seeing the reactions from some of them and how much they love them.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I'm quite creeped out by it. I certainly don't blame the cops in this case.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Iggo
(47,537 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)petronius
(26,598 posts)think to plant some drugs and a gun under the seat, then taze the hell out of the car owner? Now the public is on the hook for a new window...
</snarky dick on the internet>
Glad they erred on the side of caution, and that really is a surprisingly realistic doll...
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Why would the cops do something like that?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)RexDart
(188 posts)Not knowing if it was a real infant or creepy doll, better safe then sorry.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Thanks, needed that *shimmy*
romanic
(2,841 posts)That doll is too lifelike. Like something out of a paranormal horror movie.
mercuryblues
(14,525 posts)a very realistic doll. I borrowed it when I flew to a long weekend visit with friends. I wanted to freak them out that I bought my baby with me.
Being pretty fragile it wasn't going in my suitcase. When I got to security, I put it in a bin to go through. A woman freaked out on the other end that I put my "baby" through the machine. I had to let her touch it to believe it wasn't real.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)It looks like a real baby and I would have done the same thing.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)These are good mistakes to make.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)I see no problem with the police action in this case.
RobinA
(9,886 posts)Why are the police breaking into cars for no reason? The "kid" was obviously not showing distress. How about waiting around to see if there was an actual problem. This, to me, is pretty unacceptable.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)It might be a good idea if you didn't take any babysitting jobs. Just sayin'.
Boomer
(4,167 posts)The temperature inside a sealed car can soar to dangerous levels within minutes, and infants are especially vulnerable to unregulated body temps. Waiting around until a baby shows signs of distress means the difference between a simple rescue versus a trip to the ER (if not the morgue).
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)if you lock your keys inside.
Guess these don't.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)That doll is f'ing creepy.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)That thing gives me the creeps.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Ugh.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Good for the cops! If anything else, that was some good real world training! They should not be red faced at all - that could have been a dead child.
I would have done the same in this situation because these dolls look so real.
Rex
(65,616 posts)You know what else does not move at all? A dead baby. Good for the cops, I'd have done that as a civilian if I believed I was looking at a dead or dying child in a car. I think most normal people would.
KarenS
(4,063 posts)don't leave it in the car in plain sight! Cover it up with a blanket or put it in the trunk.
Sheesh,,,, The police did the right thing.
And some people do it on purpose just to get a reaction. It's stupid.
allan01
(1,950 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)I'd probably do the same thing if I saw that.
pinstikfartherin
(500 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Even the nostrils would have shown some movement...
Just sayin'.
RKP5637
(67,089 posts)vankuria
(904 posts)An honest mistake, at least they were doing their jobs and looking out for the public interest. And that doll definitely is lifelike, I probably would've thought the same thing.