BREAKING - Oregon Sheriff Handling Massacre Fought the White House on Gun Control After Newtown

[flamingdem]

As the sheriff in Douglas County, Oregon, John Hanlin was front and center following Thursday's shooting at Umpqua Community College, which left at least 13 people dead and 20 others wounded.

Two years ago, Hanlin was one of hundreds of sheriffs around the country to vow to stand against new gun control legislation. In a January 15, 2013, letter to Vice President Joe Biden, he wrote, "Gun control is NOT the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/oregon-sheriff-umpqua-massacre-white-house-gun-control-newtown

[riversedge]

1. yup. that is him. watching press conf right now.

[flamingdem]

3. Yes, he had to put himself in the center of this

instead of gracefully stepping back - that would have been more appropriate considering his position.

He was unpleasant at the press conference, guilty conscience much?

[Bettie]

14. I doubt it

He probably feels very satisfied that no gun regulations are enforced in his jurisdiction.

Yeah, there are people who are dead, but who cares, the guns are safe.

[flamingdem]

16. I know right, these people are unreachable

their sexy gun took their humanity years ago.

[Bettie]

18. To my everlasting shame

my brother is one of these.

His point today was that these people died "because they were too much of pussies to have a gun and kill the MF'er" (excuse the language, but this was what he said. He's also stocking up on "ammo" and getting some new guns, just in case. Pretty mad at Obama for speaking out against it all too.

After Sandy Hook, he also said that little dead kids are just the price we pay for living in a "free society". He is fully unteachable...and a giant asshole.

My mother gets angry with me because I won't talk to him most of the time. I have no idea how his posts became unhidden, I think it was when our mother was in the hospital.

[flamingdem]

21. That's a lot to deal with!

I really want to believe deep down they know what's right and wrong, but if they listen to gun nut talk it will harden them further. The NRA is good at keeping the flock brainwashed.

[Bettie]

27. Yeah, mostly

I don't bother talking to him at all. He's really kind of a horrible person all around.

[gvstn]

40. My brother is a nice guy.

But terrible in a lot of ways. I know if I asked him for the shirt of his back he would give it to me.

But to hear him speak, he is so angry--The gays, the blacks, the welfare people, any poor people--Oh my Gawd! He just sounds terrible. He really is a nice guy but right-wing radio is what he sounds like when you talk to him. And not just talking points but he is really vehement about them and uses a lot of energy to express those points. I just don't understand the anger. Everyday? It is just not worth the trouble to be that angry.

[Bettie]

49. Mine stopped speaking to me for over a year

because I suggested to him that having to press 1 for English on the ATM isn't tragic and in fact, if it is the biggest issue in your life, you're doing pretty well overall.

Yeah, he is angry all the time, spends so much time hating people he doesn't even know.

[olddots]

2. Barny Fife with a beer gut

and a pebble pecker

[flamingdem]

4. Let's see if this gun nut sheds a tear

for his community members.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

29. Naw. Their fault for complying with school rules.

[hatrack]

5. So how does it taste? Sweet? Savory with a splash of Freedumb? Tangy?

How's that metallic aroma of blood and brain tissue?

HOW DOES IT FUCKING TASTE, YOU ASSHOLE?

[enough]

6. Whatever it tastes like, he likes it. (nt)

[SheilaT]

7. Guns are clearly more sacred and more important than

human lives.

[hatrack]

8. And when you read the letter, you'll notice one thing (or lack thereof):

Newtown.

Not a mention, except in passing, a nicely barnacled reference to "heinous crimes".

Not the faintest breath of thought, not the slightest hint of comprehension that something foully horrible and nearly beyond understanding, had just happened.

No, just "I" (he refers to himself as "I" eleven times). "My" shows up five times, and "me" once. My job. My office. My job. My responsibilities. My freedom. And on and on and on.

[flamingdem]

44. Good catch, he sees everything in relationship to his needs

and ideology, human connection is not a consideration.

Psychologists need to help us understand these types so we can defeat them.

[LuvLoogie]

47. Look up sociopath and delusions of grandeur

[malaise]

9. Fugg him too

Asshole

[ileus]

10. Does this mean we can blame him for the shooting today???

[flamingdem]

12. A window into what gun control advocates are up against

- being discussed on the Chris Hayes show now.

[flamingdem]

13. And Fugg him

.. as long as we can still feel anger something might change for the better.

[cascadiance]

35. I wonder if he was responsible for not keeping it a "gun safe zone" without guns...

They interviewed a vet on local news here who said he was armed on the other side of the campus. Had he been closer to the shooting, it sounds like he might have tried to intervene, but at least he was wise not to try and insert himself in to the mix and make it a worse situation than it already was with SWAT shooting at him and others if he came there with his gun.

Makes you wonder if he had a gun, how perhaps the gunman might have also been "blessed" in carrying a gun (or guns) on campus as well. Perhaps why they are avoid talking very much now too, if there is evidence that authorities might have known he was armed, and that allowing him to carry a gun might have been the pivotal event that lead to this massacre that might not have happened if perhaps there was a real "gun safe zone" enforced there.

[madinmaryland]

11. Has anyone suggested to Hanlin that he perform an unnatural sexual act on himself? If not,

then I am.

GO FUCK YOURSELF, HANLIN.

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. Cue the conspiracy theorists.

Ugh that face.

[sheshe2]

17. Hanlin is a pompous prick.

'Scuse my language flamingdem.

[flamingdem]

19. True dat sheshe

and now this massacre is his life, we'll see how he evolves or devolves. Something tells me he will maintain his pompousity and prickcity!

[sheshe2]

22. Oh yeah, my money is on your guess.

Something tells me he will maintain his pompousity and prickcity!

Leopards do not change their spots.

Good to see you, flamingdem.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

20. Has he changed his mind at all? nt

[GusBob]

23. Lawsuit

23 plaintiffs, plus their families

[Judi Lynn]

24. He doesn't seem to realize that if everyone carried around a gun, taking the law into his own hands,

settling scores against people he sees as bad to his interests, we wouldn't need cops any longer. Everyone would already BE a cop.

John Hanlin doesn't seem perturbed, to regret people's lives have been destroyed, their loved ones will suffer a very long time, people who were shot, not killed, will suffer horrifically, and needlessly, because another monster got his hands on a gun.

Everyone's worse off, the whole world is worse off after this, except for gun humpers, who are charged up, ready to fight even harder with anyone who says the world could do without their psycho-sexual attachments just fine.

[passiveporcupine]

30. Not even shot necessarily

people who were shot, not killed, will suffer horrifically, and needlessly, because another monster got his hands on a gun.

Like the female student interviewed. She saw her teacher shot in the head in front of her. How do you ever get over a thing like that?

[flamingdem]

31. So true Judy

This sheriff should step aside, he's not the person to help the community get through their tragedy, he won't though since he doesn't want any anti gun people to get a word in!

[cascadiance]

25. Dennis Richardson, who had Roseburg in his district, ran against Kitzhaber wanting to arm teachers..

in 2014 gubernatorial race... after Columbine and Clackamas county shooting tragedies too... District 4 has Roseburg in it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/oregon-state-rep-dennis-richardson-teacher-guns-stopped-connecticut-shooting_n_2317444.html

[procon]

26. That would explain why they didn't take any questions at their presser.

Now, what are the odds that a reporter will actually ask him about his gun nutteriness?

[flamingdem]

28. He was terrible at that presser

I think they need to have another person handle the media due to his gun nuttery.

[Duval]

45. This explains a lot! eom

[BuddhaGirl]

32. Let the good sheriff know how you feel!!

Here's the twitter account: @DouglasCoSO

[IHateTheGOP]

33. Gee, smart guy that sheriff.

[tomm2thumbs]

34. I didn't understand the point of his press conference - he literally stood up to say 'I don't know'

over and over and over -- I guess that speaks volumes....

[juxtaposed]

36. what a dip shit..

[Capt.Rocky300]

37. Barney Fife with an attitude.

[moondust]

38. Dumb POS. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. Wonder if he'd feel that way if it was his blood pooling on the floor.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. That should make him a hero to a certain element here.

[WheelWalker]

42. He just announced this week that he's running for a third term as Sheriff.

http://www.nrtoday.com/news/18419240-113/sheriff-hanlin-files-for-third-term

We need to move on from Sheriff Hanlin, IMO

[Nevernose]

43. My 20 year old daughter didn't know what Newton was

I just read her some of the highlights of the letter. My kid is relatively well informed, but she doesn't remember Newtown. She says all the mass shootings have blurred together at this point.

That's pretty sad in and of itself -- that for many younger people, mass shootings really are the "new normal."

[Ilsa]

51. She would have been what, 17, when it

happened? Probably concerned about graduating, college testing, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc? A lot got by me at age 17.

[Nevernose]

55. She was old enough

The point wasn't that my kid is dumb -- she's quite bright -- the point is that they've all blurred together. It happens with such frequency now that all of the details are just ignored

[SoapBox]

46. Wow...what a nutter...

Heard about this on Chris Hayes...

I could hardly believe it and it leaves me speechless.

[Ccarmona]

48. Case Closed

The blood of the 10 dead and 13 injured are on his hands and he should be convicted as an accomplice.

[Ilsa]

50. He refused to comment on his letter

this morning, saying it would be inappropriate right now, and I tend I tend to agree on that point. That being said, he's a piece of crap.

[SoCalMusicLover]

52. Yeah...Too Soon

Let's wait to talk about stupid, pointless stuff like gun control. Maybe in a couple of weeks, after the next shooting.

But then....it will again be too soon for a discussion. Maybe a few weeks more, after the NEXT shooting.

Rinse & Repeat.

[CanonRay]

53. He already said this shooting won't change his views on gun control

and I'd bet it won't change any minds in Roseburg either. This is the kind of guy they elect. Don't look for a wave of anti-gun sentiment in Douglas County.

[CanonRay]

54. I swear this country is breaking up into two different tribes

the differences are not just political anymore...they are gut churning, soul dividing, and there's no healing to be had. It's all very depressing.

[flamingdem]

56. It's a new civil war

with some, not all of the same players. Fox news is their General.