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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:22 AM Oct 2015

Fiorina was unaware that her campaign was out of money

Famed California pollster Joe Shumate was found dead in his home one month before Election Day 2010, surrounded by sheets of polling data he labored over for the flailing Senate bid of Carly Fiorina.

Upon his death, Fiorina praised Shumate as “the heart and soul” of her team. She issued a news release praising him as a person who believed in “investing in those he worked with” and offering her “sincerest condolences” to his widow.

But records show there was something that Fiorina did not offer his widow: Shumate’s last paycheck, for at least $30,000. It was one of more than 30 invoices, totaling about $500,000, that the multimil­lionaire didn’t settle — even as Fiorina reimbursed herself nearly $1.3 million she lent the campaign. She finally cleared most of the balance in January, a few months before announcing her run for president.

“Occasionally, I’d call and tell her she should pay them,” said Martin Wilson, Fiorina’s former campaign manager, who found Shumate after the pollster collapsed from a heart attack. “She just wouldn’t.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/carly-fiorinas-first-political-campaign-had-a-surprising-problem-money/2015/10/04/c4bdcdd2-50be-11e5-933e-7d06c647a395_story.html

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Fiorina was unaware that her campaign was out of money (Original Post) UCmeNdc Oct 2015 OP
The dead cost nothing. JNelson6563 Oct 2015 #1
The Longshanks from Braveheart was a motherfucker. Iggo Oct 2015 #12
The "heart and soul" of Fiorina's campaign died of a heart attack. Telling. Scuba Oct 2015 #2
maybe that is what she also did at hp dembotoz Oct 2015 #3
Oh, well, back to worshiping Satan, I guess. randome Oct 2015 #4
Fiorina is a bad business person Gothmog Oct 2015 #5
Take out the word "business" and you've got it. nt GliderGuider Oct 2015 #23
Fiorina was unaware that HP was out of money, too KamaAina Oct 2015 #6
So she's consistent! JackRiddler Oct 2015 #11
She thought they could just print more money underpants Oct 2015 #17
Thread win! KamaAina Oct 2015 #18
Funniest post of the year! Yavin4 Oct 2015 #22
LOL, that's totally DUzy worthy! Brother Buzz Oct 2015 #24
DUzy malaise Oct 2015 #29
Oh, but we need business leader candidates...for their financial expertise. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #7
$500k invested for 6 yrs in one of the greatest bull runs riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #8
Just imagine what this thieving shyster would do to the USA tabasco Oct 2015 #9
Surely someone showed showed her... Whiskeytide Oct 2015 #10
Wow! marym625 Oct 2015 #13
She's a scoundrel. SoapBox Oct 2015 #14
Killer quote: “If we didn’t win, why do you deserve to get paid?" thesquanderer Oct 2015 #15
While she walked away from the smoking ruin of H-P with $21 million gratuitous Oct 2015 #25
"If our company lost money on your watch, why do you deserve to get paid?" BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #27
I just saw someone else quote that. That ought to be a campaign killer muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #28
Moral of the story... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #30
A special place in the abyss for people like Fiorina. Rex Oct 2015 #16
I Suppose She Is Also Unaware... Laxman Oct 2015 #19
So The HP Way wasn't all she killed? n/t mhatrw Oct 2015 #20
Everything I hear about her makes her more and more hateful lunatica Oct 2015 #21
And not one person, not one, on the right, will either hear about this or believe it randys1 Oct 2015 #26
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Oh, well, back to worshiping Satan, I guess.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:30 AM
Oct 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

underpants

(182,717 posts)
17. She thought they could just print more money
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:26 PM
Oct 2015

on one of those fancy HP printers. Only problem was they'd run out of ink in the toner cartridge and DAMMIT those things are expensive. It was a catch-22.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. $500k invested for 6 yrs in one of the greatest bull runs
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:43 PM
Oct 2015

Netted her a fortune.

Her serfs should be glad she finally paid them their salary she withheld for the past six years. In her eyes they probably should be grateful as though it was in their best interests for her to invest their $$ for her financial gain.





 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
9. Just imagine what this thieving shyster would do to the USA
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:45 PM
Oct 2015

Really, you can say the same thing for all the republican candidates.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
10. Surely someone showed showed her...
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

... a video tape of the books, right? How could she remember that wrongly?

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
15. Killer quote: “If we didn’t win, why do you deserve to get paid?"
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:16 PM
Oct 2015

How about "because we provided the goods/services you asked for"?

Wow.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. While she walked away from the smoking ruin of H-P with $21 million
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 04:06 PM
Oct 2015

I believe President Clinton would say that takes a lot of brass.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
27. "If our company lost money on your watch, why do you deserve to get paid?"
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 05:32 PM
Oct 2015

I've often wondered why CEOs get paid so much for failing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
28. I just saw someone else quote that. That ought to be a campaign killer
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:10 PM
Oct 2015
Those who waited the longest to be paid were small businesses with a few dozen employees who did the grunt work of the campaign: building stages, sending out mailers, selling polling data. And at least one is still waiting.
...
Fiorina, through a spokeswoman, declined to comment. Her supporters say the criticism was misplaced.

“People are just upset and angry and throwing her under the bus,” said Jon Cross, Fiorina’s operations director for her Senate campaign. “If we didn’t win, why do you deserve to get paid? If you don’t succeed in business, you shouldn’t be the first one to step up and complain about getting paid.”

So there you are, the Republican mentality perfectly expressed: the multi-millionaire walks away from a failure unscathed, leaving the average schmuck who naively did business with her to take the loss. It's worse than Romney's disdain for the 47%.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
30. Moral of the story...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:16 PM
Oct 2015

at least according to John Cross, seem to be...

"You extended credit to a candidate? Sucker! With business acumen like that, you deserve to lose your money!"

Meanwhile, while he says the guy who built the stage or whatever--who was not hired to make her win, but just to do a job that he did--doesn't deserve to get paid, while John Cross, whose job was actually to get her to win, probably walked away with plenty, which I'm sure he's not giving back.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. A special place in the abyss for people like Fiorina.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:20 PM
Oct 2015

And it is completely fair to both genders. Both get to rot in the lowest parts.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
19. I Suppose She Is Also Unaware...
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

that her campaign is out of ideas or policies as well. Financially, morally and intellectually bankrupt -she's hit the republican trifecta!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. Everything I hear about her makes her more and more hateful
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:47 PM
Oct 2015

I can't think of a single factual complimentary thing about her that I've ever heard.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. And not one person, not one, on the right, will either hear about this or believe it
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 04:12 PM
Oct 2015

when they do.

And if they did believe it, wont matter.

The uglier, meaner, more corrupt you are, the more the base will like you.

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