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niyad

(113,056 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:11 PM Oct 2015

Is this 2015 or 1692? Woman Accused of Being a Witch Fired from Military Dental Clinic

Is this 2015 or 1692? Woman Accused of Being a Witch Fired from Military Dental Clinic



Accused of being a witch, an Air Force contractor working at a dental clinic at Fort Meade, Maryland, has been fired. Seriously.

Deborah Schoenfeld, a dental technician at the clinic, and a Hindu, was fired on September 2, immediately after filing a formal complaint about the religious harassment she was being forced to endure, which included being accused of witchcraft, bringing demons into the office, and being admonished that practicing yoga is "satanic" and will "cost (her) her soul." The alleged reason given for her firing was that she was accused of using profanity in the workplace. She was told, however, that she did not have the right to know who her accusers were.

According to the Air Force Times, two of Schoenfeld's former co-workers have confirmed her account of the workplace harassment she was subjected to by the devout Christians there, with one saying that she was referred to as a "Hindu witch."

Schoenfeld, who wishes to return to her job, has turned to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), which has sent the following letter to the commander of this modern day Salem, where we hope they aren't also using the dental practices of 1692 on our troops.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/06/1428258/-Is-this-2015-or-1692-Woman-Accused-of-Being-a-Witch-Fired-from-Military-Dental-Clinic#

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Is this 2015 or 1692? Woman Accused of Being a Witch Fired from Military Dental Clinic (Original Post) niyad Oct 2015 OP
A Hindu witch?! KamaAina Oct 2015 #1
Ya gotta watch out for those hybrids. bunnies Oct 2015 #5
yes, there are hindu witches. just google the term niyad Oct 2015 #38
WTF indeed. yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #44
:facepalm: jeff47 Oct 2015 #2
Welcome to the new normal. forest444 Oct 2015 #18
Did they at least see if she floats? Yavin4 Oct 2015 #3
She turned me into a newt! hifiguy Oct 2015 #12
Oh, no! Not a Newt! Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #15
I spent several hours/days/years expunging this image from my memory - BACK again. Yech! erronis Oct 2015 #25
I keep explaining that there are kharmic penalties for advancing lifeforms! niyad Oct 2015 #33
OMGi awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #50
Actually, that Newt was turned into a crooked politician by a witch Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #52
Let's party like it's 1699! LongTomH Oct 2015 #4
Oh for fucks sake REP Oct 2015 #6
The Air Force leadership edhopper Oct 2015 #7
Indeed...and I was hoping Obama would change that Oilwellian Oct 2015 #9
Me too. Among other things like Limbaugh on Armed Forces radio. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #29
and this is not a recent development, and is true across all branches. I saw it in the navy niyad Oct 2015 #34
more's the pity. edhopper Oct 2015 #37
The USAF seems to attract the militarily minded Xains. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #8
I suspect the USAF recruits Fundys Oilwellian Oct 2015 #10
And they do full indoctrination through the Air Force Academy and any other specialty training Demeter Oct 2015 #22
mikey weinstein of the military religious freedom foundation pointed this out about the air force niyad Oct 2015 #35
DEVO was right. hifiguy Oct 2015 #11
But it's their deeply held FAITH!!! You must RESPECT it!!! Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #24
What the fuck is a Hindu witch? Rex Oct 2015 #13
google the term--they do exist. niyad Oct 2015 #39
So the term 'witch' is universal? Rex Oct 2015 #42
pretty much. niyad Oct 2015 #45
"the witch song" niyad Oct 2015 #46
This is where the Xtians cry about being oppressed by not being allowed to oppress others, right? Marrah_G Oct 2015 #14
Naturally. hifiguy Oct 2015 #16
if you follow the reichwingnut fundies, they have actually been advocating this for years now. niyad Oct 2015 #36
If anyone accused me of witchcraft... LeftinOH Oct 2015 #17
I had a witch in my platoon sarisataka Oct 2015 #19
Some Christians believe the Devil already HAS your soul.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #20
The males among that subset hifiguy Oct 2015 #23
Republican evangelicals are confused about everything. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #30
This is 2015! blondie58 Oct 2015 #21
Go to the link in the OP! The letter to the CO from the 1monster Oct 2015 #26
have loved mikey since he took on the USAFA years ago. had the pleasure of meeting him then. niyad Oct 2015 #40
Much of the critisizm in the attachment is about the tone HeiressofBickworth Oct 2015 #49
Well, you may recall, we almost had a Witch as VP Submariner Oct 2015 #27
unfortunately the tundra grifter insults real witches. niyad Oct 2015 #41
The Air Force has become notorious... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #28
+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #31
Air Force is All Fundie Person 2713 Oct 2015 #32
Maryland?! wheniwasincongress Oct 2015 #43
disgustingly mind boggling, is it not? and we PAY for this nonsense! niyad Oct 2015 #47
Thanks for the post! I had no idea the Air Force was a bastion of fundies. I'm reading octoberlib Oct 2015 #48
. . . niyad Oct 2015 #51

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
15. Oh, no! Not a Newt!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:46 PM
Oct 2015

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REP

(21,691 posts)
6. Oh for fucks sake
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:01 PM
Oct 2015

The sheer ignorance of some Christians is truly mind boggling. Witches don't worship any of the Christian gods; nor do Hindus.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
9. Indeed...and I was hoping Obama would change that
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

when he became CiC. I remember becoming painfully aware of the Fundy leaders in the Air Force during Bush's reign. I was hoping to see that freak show come to an end, but alas.

niyad

(113,056 posts)
34. and this is not a recent development, and is true across all branches. I saw it in the navy
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:36 PM
Oct 2015

over 20 years ago.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
8. The USAF seems to attract the militarily minded Xains.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:03 PM
Oct 2015

I guess it is the chance to reduce the "godless commies" or "islamic hordes" to ashes through atomic fireballs appeals to the one who drool thinking about other people burning in a lake of fire.


Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
10. I suspect the USAF recruits Fundys
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:26 PM
Oct 2015

that would make sense because it's so prevalent. Remember when they lost the nukes being transported during Bush's disastrous years? It does give one pause when you consider who is in charge of our nukes.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
22. And they do full indoctrination through the Air Force Academy and any other specialty training
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

It is a scandal...flying "under the radar" of the public's attention.

She ought to sue, sue, sue, until the Air Force begs for mercy.

niyad

(113,056 posts)
35. mikey weinstein of the military religious freedom foundation pointed this out about the air force
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:37 PM
Oct 2015

academy years ago. even made the local fishwrap. sadly, the situation is only getting worse.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. DEVO was right.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

Humanity, at least in these United States of Stupidity, is de-evolving at a rate that is increasing exponentially.

How can people be this stupid and still manage to dress themselves each day?



 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. What the fuck is a Hindu witch?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

Fundamentalist should learn when to shut the fuck up, they embarrass the rest of the human race with that judgmental crap.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. Naturally.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

I'm surprised they haven't started complaining about not being able to burn witches.

I suppose that will happen soon enough.

LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
17. If anyone accused me of witchcraft...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

I'd play along, and tell them that I've put a curse on them.. FOR LIFE. That way, every misfortune that comes their way will be mu "fault."

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
19. I had a witch in my platoon
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:30 PM
Oct 2015

long ago. We would go to him for candles when the power went out in the barracks.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Some Christians believe the Devil already HAS your soul....
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:32 PM
Oct 2015

They believe the only path to being saved from the Devil is with Jesus.

Some then take that a step further and believe anything that is not Jesus is thus Satanic.

Republican evangelicals probably get confused as hell about Ganesha.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
26. Go to the link in the OP! The letter to the CO from the
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:52 PM
Oct 2015

Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) regarding this issue is a JOY to read. Michael L. "Mikey" Weinstein, Esq., founder and president of the MRFF certainly has a way with language.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
49. Much of the critisizm in the attachment is about the tone
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:49 AM
Oct 2015

of the letter. Aggressive, disrespectful, etc. The letter reminded me of an attorney I once worked for. His closing line to his demand for payment letters was "if you fail to respond within 20 days of the date of this letter, I will take legal action that will positively astound you."

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
28. The Air Force has become notorious...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

... for outrageous uber-Christian activities that are totally illegal. Top commanders have been warned, but they persist in not only allowing, but in some cases, encouraging, blatantly discriminatory behavior. I think maybe there's a boom that needs lowering.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
48. Thanks for the post! I had no idea the Air Force was a bastion of fundies. I'm reading
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:10 PM
Oct 2015

through some of Mikey Weinstein's previous posts. Ugh.

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