Luckovich - When Gun Legislation Will Happen

[groundloop]

[NightWatcher]

1. Ok...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. We can only hope...And I'm kidding, of course.

I'm kidding!

That WOULD be one way to accomplish it, though. NOT a good way.

[groundloop]

3. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.....

however it seems to me that the right wing members of Congress are pretty damned callous when it comes to other's family members lost to gun violence.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. Nor would I.

And I agree with you completely about the right wing members of Congress!

[randys1]

4. The folks making sure NONE of us are safe because of too many guns, are very safe, I assure you.

[shenmue]

9. Might want to self-delete

That is Not Cool.

[erronis]

34. Don't want to get one of those nasty alerts..

Like when I suggested that the spawn of NRA may end up paying a price for their parents actions.

Oh, I guess I need to self-delete this too. It ain't "Cool".

[awoke_in_2003]

36. I remember the day Gabby Giffords was shot

It seemed surreal. Of course, nothing was done by the Do Nothing congress.

[valerief]

46. I'm starting to think most of Congress is made up of holograms anyway. They're not human. nt

[Fred Sanders]

5. Gun control will happen before this horror. Agreeing with the cartoon's conclusion is defeatist!

[NightWatcher]

7. If shooting 20 6&7 year olds didn't do it, nothing will.

I was sure Sandy Hook would've done it, but I was wrong. Maybe Luckovich is right.

[forest444]

14. ^ This. Right here.

[rurallib]

30. I pulled off the road and started crying when I heard that

and then called my daughter and told her to give the grandson an extra hug.
My only hopeful thought out of that was that here now was an incident the cowards of congress couldn't ignore.
Even the evil incarnate NRA would have to change their tune after that.

I was oh so wrong and went back to my old philosophy that most people will do nothing until they are directly affected. So sadly I think Luckovich is probably on target.

[awoke_in_2003]

38. I had grade school age grandchildren then

and one that started kindergarten this year. I held it together- barely. But only because I have a lot of experience hiding my emotions. It is not easy being a rock.

[slumcamper]

39. Poignant. And correct.

Sandy Hook was a test of many things, not least of which were objective reason, moral courage, willpower, and the human spirit. Conservatives failed this test almost to the person. As usual, Luckovich has made a powerful point and his satire impels us to consider the question of just what the hell it will take. I doubt that hell freezing over would change a thing.

However, a peaceful, forceful, and concerted revolution of, by, and for the people offers a distinct possibility.

Feelin' the Bern!

[KamaAina]

8. Or this

[madinmaryland]

16. Heh...

The Forty-whiner fans who still think they will win the Super Bowl??

[KamaAina]

44. No, that would be more like this

[Major Nikon]

10. If the gun homicide rate of white people equaled the gun homicide of black people

...there wouldn't be a debate about gun control.

[mainstreetonce]

11. Good point

...

[Fred Sanders]

17. The gun homicide and mass murder rate of white people by white people is the highest of all.

Yet the GOP and RW and NRA block all attempts at anything at all to prevent them!

Not sure what conclusion you are drawing from what rates?

[Major Nikon]

22. The reason why you are not sure is because you didn't read and/or understand what I wrote

I didn't say anything about "mass murder rate", so evidently you just threw that in there for strawman purposes.

Not sure why you are having so much trouble with my conclusion, so here's a picture:

[StoneCarver]

24. Fred What are you talking about?

According to the CDC’s WONDER database, 5.2 out of every 100,000 Americans were homicide victims, on average, from 2010 to 2012. That’s not especially high by global standards; the median country had 4.7 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons over the same period,1 according to the UNODC data. The highest homicide rate in the world was in Honduras, with 87.9 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons.
...
Black Americans are almost eight times as likely as white ones to be homicide victims, in other words.

So for white Americans, the homicide death rate is not so much of an outlier. It’s only modestly higher than in Finland, Belgium or Greece, for instance, and lower than in Chile or Latvia.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/
Stonecarver
p.s. Heck, I don't care if this gets me alerted. Black (mostly on black) violence has to stop. Period! It is a epidemic in large Cities like mine. While these mass shootings are sad and they get the headlines -we have a big problem. A much Bigger problem, and I don't know how to fix it. Black lives do matter and I wish I knew how to stop it. I have a crazy idea. As a gun owner why not start "gun safety" programs in the large Cities. You learn RESPECT for a weapon and you never point it at another person -period. All my guns have locks on them and my kids both respect and enjoy them. It's a huge responsibility. And skeet is a lot of fun. I don't even let my kids point fake guns at people. It's that important!

[Fred Sanders]

27. So no wonder white-folk-led GOP and NRA want to do nothing about gun control, as you suggest.

[LiberalArkie]

47. I have thought that for a long time. If black girls had more abortions than whites did

you would see a massive move by the GOP to start funding it. I have been around racists for too long. It is in their nature to believe that the "black folks are going to riot" so they have to be prepared. I hear that line from people who I used to think were sane. They really in their heart believe it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. I wouldn't want to give anyone any ideas....

Besides,....this wouldn't be a guarantee.

Look at Gabby Giffords,....one of their own and they STILL didn't do anything.

Oh wait,......


.......that's right.......



.....she's a Democrat.

[passiveporcupine]

42. And a woman

[forest444]

13. And even then it probably wouldn't happen - not with the GOP in charge.

They wouldn't let it pass even if the victims were their top SuperPac contributors, mistresses, and boy toys all at the same time!

The only way we'll ever see meaningful gun control legislation, is with solid Democratic majorities in both houses.

[left-of-center2012]

15. Yes, but ....

Imagine if every Senator, Representative, and staff member had a gun and each opened fire.
Wouldn't that be the NRA dream result?

[groundloop]

25. the ultimate "good guy with a gun" wet dream

The obvious fallacy of that, of course, is that extremely few civilians have the recurrent training to do any real good in a situation like that even if they are armed.

[rpannier]

18. Wouldn't last long

The new members elected would likely be anti-legislation and they'd vote to repeal all of it
I just don't think the majority of the public will vote for representatives who support any sort of legislation

Bunch of 1st graders get killed and the general public opposed any legislation
I think if it doesn't directly affect them, they don't care

[meow2u3]

19. Yup. Only when a repuke Congresscritter gets shot will we see gun safety laws

BTW, I was hoping to see a toon with Satan ice skating in Hell, but this is close enough for government work.

[SoapBox]

20. Exactly.

[former9thward]

21. Congress has been attacked in the past.

So that prediction is not accurate. Five representatives were shot in 1954 when some Puerto Rican nationalists shot up the House.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/March/Puerto-Rican-Nationalists-Launch-Assault-on-U-S--Congress.html

[Jim Beard]

32. Thank you

I was afraid I was going to need to post this.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

43. And at the time it must have seemed extraordinary, isolated, surreal and not emblematic of an...

...out of control gun culture like we have today.

[Hoppy]

23. Didn't that actually happen? I believe it was U.S. Senator John Tower who was pro gun

until he got shot in an armed robbery. Then suddenly, guns needed to be regulated.

[Ghost in the Machine]

26. No, because it would be a 99.9% probability that it would be a right-winger picking off left-wingers

So the only legislation would be to ban Democrats from owning guns... so some of them wouldn't retaliate, IMHO...


Peace,

Ghost

[former9thward]

45. In 1954 it was left wingers shooting up the House.

See Post # 21.

[Gothmog]

28. Great cartoon

[perdita9]

29. When gun violence starts to impact the 1%...

...that's when we'll get sensible legislation

[LuckyLib]

31. I thought it would be a toon of hell freezing over.

[SheilaT]

33. Or the heat death of the universe.

[DrBulldog]

35. Yes, gun legislation will happen then if ...

... the shooter manages to pick off just the Republican Congressmen.

[Old Codger]

37. Has already happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_%281954%29

[jmowreader]

40. Luckovich can't draw flying pigs?

I'm not certain that someone shooting up the Capitol building would be enough to motivate them to pass gun laws - ESPECIALLY if the guy shot more Democrats than Republicans!

[Iris]

41. touche

[packman]

48. Already has happened and still a reminder of the shooting

March 1, 1954, three Puerto Rican nationalists seated in the visitor's gallery overlooking the House Chamber drew pistols and fired off 30 rounds at the 243 members attending a debate on immigration. In the resulting bedlam Speaker Joseph Martin of Massachusetts hurriedly declared a recess and took cover behind the rostrum. Five of his fellow members were not so lucky and were wounded, although all survived their injuries. The assailants were subdued and eventually sent to prison. The walnut table used by the Republican leadership still bear the scars from the attack.

[NCjack]

49. I think the toon is wrong. For Gun Legislation to happen,

the source of the NRA-to-congress money stream has to go dry.