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COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
1. While I understand the sentiment
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:29 PM
Oct 2015

it seems to me that there are a whole lot of assumptions being made from this one photo. The young man seated doesn't strike me as being a "long-haired punk". To the contrary, he appears to be neatly dressed in a suit and (presumably) tie. The hair style was very typical in the 50's and certainly wasn't confined to 'punks'.

In addition, another, white man appears to be standing. Is he waiting for something? Clearly he isn't being denied seating. We also don't know from the picture whether the AA lady is being denied seating or is waiting for take out.

garagedoor

(119 posts)
8. A Little Historical Clarification
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

If this is 1956 and in the state of Tennessee, Black people were not allowed to sit and be served. The Whites could sit OR stand since they were given the full measure of respect accorded to free people. In some establishments, Black people were not allowed to enter the same entrances as Whites. This jimcrow law is what the lunch counter sit-ins starting in Greensboro, NC (in 1960) hoped to underscore and eventually eradicate.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
13. All true. And none of which negates
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

any of the points I mentioned. Blacks were permitted to buy food at lunch counters - they weren't permitted to sit and eat it there. So many bought it and took it somewhere else.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
11. I mean, yeah, you're right, she is waiting for take out!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:45 PM
Oct 2015

Because she's being denied a place to sit down. Because this photo was taken in Tennessee in 1958, when lunch counters were segregated.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
12. Being segregated didn't mean that they wouldn't
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

provide food to AA clients - they couldn't sit down and eat it in the restaurant.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
15. There's no way to tell if she was waiting for a take-out order
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:37 PM
Oct 2015

or not sitting because she wasn't permitted to.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
16. If you're saying there's no way to tell simply because you're unaware of when the photo was taken,
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:41 PM
Oct 2015

and you're looking at it entirely without context, then yeah, I suppose you could say that. But because we know it was taken in 1958, we know that she is waiting for take out, because she is not permitted to sit at the counter, because lunch counters were segregated in Tennessee at that time. Any food she orders is, by definition, take out, because she can't eat there.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
17. OK. After all that, what's your point? You seem to agree
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:45 PM
Oct 2015

that she's waiting for take out. Others allege that she's standing because she's denied a seat (and therefore must eat standing up).

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
18. My point was refuting yours: "We also don't know from the picture whether the AA lady is being
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:48 PM
Oct 2015

denied seating or is waiting for take out."

We do know. She is being denied seating because it's a segregated counter. So she's waiting for take out.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
6. wow never seen this pic
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:38 PM
Oct 2015

that was not taken with a little digi camera and required great skill .Its real art .

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. Dude sitting there doesn't eat bacon, and the nice lady is waiting for a refund
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

Because they fucked up her burger order

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