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Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:38 PM

The way forward for the GOP.....and the entire country

The GOP has more in common with the Democrats than they have with the Tea Party. It's time to talk REPUBLICRATS.

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Reply The way forward for the GOP.....and the entire country (Original post)
Joe Nation Oct 2015 OP
leftofcool Oct 2015 #1
upaloopa Oct 2015 #2
villager Oct 2015 #3
NightWatcher Oct 2015 #4
0rganism Oct 2015 #5
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #6
Skittles Oct 2015 #7
DFW Oct 2015 #8
Shandris Oct 2015 #9
Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #10
Joe Nation Oct 2015 #11
randome Oct 2015 #12
Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #13

Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:39 PM

1. Uh no!

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:40 PM

2. Let them crash and burn first and maybe

we can pick up some pieces.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:41 PM

3. Sad commentary on the current state of the Democratic party then, eh?

 

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:41 PM

4. If 50 or so of them want to convert to Dems, we'll take it for the next two years

But we shouldn't stoop to their level or sink to their ideas.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:41 PM

5. thanks, but no thanks

we already have too many "REPUBLICRATS" calling the shots.

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:50 PM

6. Yup.

We call those third wayers, DLC, blue dogs, or whatever name they're hiding under these days.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:52 PM

7. hell no, F*** NO

what repukes have in common with teabaggers is enough to make any decent person

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:11 PM

8. I don't know about that. It hasn't been 1958 for a while now.

Eisenhower's Republican Party wanted to win, but they didn't want to destroy us. Today's GOP is the GOP of Dick Cheney and Roger Ailes, not Ike. They created the Tea Party and let it become their identity. One little case of regicide in the House does not by a long shot mean they have been forced to come to their senses. When they propose to repeal Citizens United of their own accord, THEN you can talk about common ground. Otherwise they're demonstrating as much common ground with us as the firing squad has with the condemned. We may find ourselves in the same courtyard, but as long as we're the ones tied to a stake and wearing a blindfold, I don't think you can make a convincing argument for shared interests.

Granted, the old guard GOP wants the Teabaggers out as much as we do. The difference is that once that happens, they'll wish us the same fate, and do everything they can to make sure we share it. The election of 2000 wasn't so long ago that we have forgotten how the final result was achieved. Some of us even remember 1968, when the beta model was successfully tested.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:13 PM

9. Mhm.

 

The new crack isn't left and right, it's authoritarian/libertarian. I've figured that was coming for a while, and doubled down on that belief as the online authoritarians grew more and more powerful.

Now it's not a question, it's a certainty. I doubt either party will be truly recognizable in 12 years, tops (provided the MIC don't just dispel the illusion of democracy by then anyway).

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:14 PM

10. Oh fuck no.

 

They all crossed the crazy bridge and burned it a long time ago. "Tea Party" is just a convenient fiction.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:05 AM

11. It solves all the problems

The Tea Party dies a well-deserved death, the Republicans learn to compromise, and we all get a government that functions again. Win-win-win. It's not the moderate Republicans I hate, it is the extreme Right-wing Tea Party types that need to be cleansed out of politics.

This is just being pragmatic and not simply emotional.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:08 AM

12. I think eventually we'll see some defections. The GOP is finished as a national party.

 

Their zombie corpse will be stinking up the place for quite a while but they're finished.
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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:33 AM

13. That's called third way, isn't it?

 

I don't mind congress being divided between Third Way, Tea Party, and Progressives - provided the Progressives are the largest of the three factions.

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