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The way forward for the GOP.....and the entire country (Original Post) Joe Nation Oct 2015 OP
Uh no! leftofcool Oct 2015 #1
Let them crash and burn first and maybe upaloopa Oct 2015 #2
Sad commentary on the current state of the Democratic party then, eh? villager Oct 2015 #3
If 50 or so of them want to convert to Dems, we'll take it for the next two years NightWatcher Oct 2015 #4
thanks, but no thanks 0rganism Oct 2015 #5
Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #6
hell no, F*** NO Skittles Oct 2015 #7
I don't know about that. It hasn't been 1958 for a while now. DFW Oct 2015 #8
Mhm. Shandris Oct 2015 #9
Oh fuck no. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #10
It solves all the problems Joe Nation Oct 2015 #11
I think eventually we'll see some defections. The GOP is finished as a national party. randome Oct 2015 #12
That's called third way, isn't it? Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #13

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. If 50 or so of them want to convert to Dems, we'll take it for the next two years
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

But we shouldn't stoop to their level or sink to their ideas.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
8. I don't know about that. It hasn't been 1958 for a while now.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:11 PM
Oct 2015

Eisenhower's Republican Party wanted to win, but they didn't want to destroy us. Today's GOP is the GOP of Dick Cheney and Roger Ailes, not Ike. They created the Tea Party and let it become their identity. One little case of regicide in the House does not by a long shot mean they have been forced to come to their senses. When they propose to repeal Citizens United of their own accord, THEN you can talk about common ground. Otherwise they're demonstrating as much common ground with us as the firing squad has with the condemned. We may find ourselves in the same courtyard, but as long as we're the ones tied to a stake and wearing a blindfold, I don't think you can make a convincing argument for shared interests.

Granted, the old guard GOP wants the Teabaggers out as much as we do. The difference is that once that happens, they'll wish us the same fate, and do everything they can to make sure we share it. The election of 2000 wasn't so long ago that we have forgotten how the final result was achieved. Some of us even remember 1968, when the beta model was successfully tested.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
9. Mhm.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:13 PM
Oct 2015

The new crack isn't left and right, it's authoritarian/libertarian. I've figured that was coming for a while, and doubled down on that belief as the online authoritarians grew more and more powerful.

Now it's not a question, it's a certainty. I doubt either party will be truly recognizable in 12 years, tops (provided the MIC don't just dispel the illusion of democracy by then anyway).

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. Oh fuck no.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:14 PM
Oct 2015

They all crossed the crazy bridge and burned it a long time ago. "Tea Party" is just a convenient fiction.

Joe Nation

(962 posts)
11. It solves all the problems
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:05 AM
Oct 2015

The Tea Party dies a well-deserved death, the Republicans learn to compromise, and we all get a government that functions again. Win-win-win. It's not the moderate Republicans I hate, it is the extreme Right-wing Tea Party types that need to be cleansed out of politics.

This is just being pragmatic and not simply emotional.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. I think eventually we'll see some defections. The GOP is finished as a national party.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

Their zombie corpse will be stinking up the place for quite a while but they're finished.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. That's called third way, isn't it?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

I don't mind congress being divided between Third Way, Tea Party, and Progressives - provided the Progressives are the largest of the three factions.

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