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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:45 PM Oct 2015

Krugman: Paul Ryan is to policy wonkery what Carly Fiorina is to corporate management: brilliant at

selling himself, hopeless at actually doing the job.

Flimflam Fever

Apparently desperate Republicans are pleading with Paul Ryan to become Speaker of the House, because he’s “super, super smart.” More than anyone else in his caucus, he has the reputation of being a brilliant policy wonk.

And that tells you even more about the dire state of the GOP. After all, Ryan is to policy wonkery what Carly Fiorina is to corporate management: brilliant at selling himself, hopeless at actually doing the job. Lest we forget, his much-vaunted budget plan proved, on even superficial examination, to be a ludicrous mess of magic asterisks. His big contribution to discussion of economic policy was his stern warning to Ben Bernanke that quantitative easing would “debase the dollar”, that rising commodity prices in early 2011 presaged a surge in inflation. This guy’s delusions of expertise should be considered funny.

Yet he may indeed be the best they have.

Nonetheless, it would be a huge mistake for him personally to take the job. Where he is, he can cultivate his wonk image, with nobody in the press willing to disturb the illusion. In a direct leadership role, he’d have no place to hide.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/flimflam-fever/
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Krugman: Paul Ryan is to policy wonkery what Carly Fiorina is to corporate management: brilliant at (Original Post) pampango Oct 2015 OP
Ryan is apparently smart enough to know how little he knows gratuitous Oct 2015 #1
"We'll see if he can resist the blandishments of the leadership folks." Will be interesting. pampango Oct 2015 #7
What are you talking about edhopper Oct 2015 #14
I agree. Ryan is described by an admirer as very, very conservative. Hortensis Oct 2015 #21
Yes edhopper Oct 2015 #22
Wouldn't You Just Know It? left on green only Oct 2015 #2
Pretty sad when the best the GOP has to offer is ate up with the Dunning-Kruger Major Nikon Oct 2015 #3
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #11
Granny-starving Paul "Lyin Ryan" is a fraud, pure and simple. Scuba Oct 2015 #4
Could we possibly gold-plate Krugman and rename him dae Oct 2015 #5
Unfortunately, Cassandra ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #6
Sure! What We Need Is This Ayn Rand Devotee Who Views The Rest Of Us As: NonMetro Oct 2015 #8
Bingo. mmonk Oct 2015 #9
But the Very Serious People inside the Beltway love him!!! YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #10
PAUL RYAN - SHITSTAIN EXTRAORDINAIRE lastone Oct 2015 #12
I'm all for Him! HenryWallace Oct 2015 #13
Joe Biden destroyed him in the 2012 VP debate brush Oct 2015 #20
I thought his "brilliance" was all copy/paste from the Heritage Foundation. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #15
Paul Ryan is dreamy, in that he's delusional. Qutzupalotl Oct 2015 #16
Good Catholic that he is, Ryan and his fellow-Catholics in the Republican Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #17
He is a terrible choice. TNNurse Oct 2015 #18
He owes his job to gerrymandering lutefisk Oct 2015 #19
I really think that despite of the gerrymandering, his seat is vulnerable. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #24
he's wasn't so smart when he dreamt of this photo session as a good idea uhnope Oct 2015 #23
Ryan is a con man who echoes Right Wing failed policies from others.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #25

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Ryan is apparently smart enough to know how little he knows
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:57 PM
Oct 2015

We'll see if he can resist the blandishments of the leadership folks.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. "We'll see if he can resist the blandishments of the leadership folks." Will be interesting.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:56 AM
Oct 2015

He may be 'smart enough' (there's a big qualifier ) to know this is bad for his political career long term, but can he resist "You are our only hope - our savior?" We shall see.

edhopper

(33,550 posts)
14. What are you talking about
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:06 PM
Oct 2015

he thinks he knows more about the budget than any politician. He doesn't want the Speaker job because, 1) he wants to stay chair of the Budget Committee, and 2) speakers have a hard time running for Pres.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I agree. Ryan is described by an admirer as very, very conservative.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:32 PM
Oct 2015

And that's in the context a uniformly strongly to extremely conservative GOP congress. In my experience, the more extremist one is, the more rigid and narrow the viewpoint.

BTW, Ryan likely is a true libertarian -- a smallish personality group that elevates personal liberty well above any other moral issue and feels responsibility only to self (with appropriate rationales for the superior virtue of their beliefs, of course). This is why the libertarian Kochs and their ilk want him to be president too.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
2. Wouldn't You Just Know It?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:57 PM
Oct 2015

Eddie Munster appears just in time for Halloween. I think his greatest moment in fame came that time when Mitt Romney announced him as the next president of the United States, upon that decommissioned battle ship. He's been wonking off ever since.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
8. Sure! What We Need Is This Ayn Rand Devotee Who Views The Rest Of Us As:
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

"PARASITES, MOOCHERS, AND LOOTERS!" as Speaker of the House!

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
10. But the Very Serious People inside the Beltway love him!!!
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

After all, cutting taxes on rich people while cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits is a sign of fiscal responsibility and shared sacrifice, doncha know!

brush

(53,759 posts)
20. Joe Biden destroyed him in the 2012 VP debate
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:13 PM
Oct 2015

He's been gun shy ever since of the national spotlight.

I don't blame him as his foolish budget policies have been shown to be nothing but smoke and mirrors — enough to fool most repugs but not many others.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
17. Good Catholic that he is, Ryan and his fellow-Catholics in the Republican
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:43 AM
Oct 2015

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party will surely quit it after reading reading these words of Paul to Timothy:

"Warn those who are rich in this world's goods that they are not to look down on other people: and not to set their hopes on money, which is untrustworthy, but on God, who, out of his riches, gives us all that we need for our happiness. Tell them that they are to do good, and be rich in good works, to be generous and willing to share - this is the way they can save up a good capital sum for the future, if they want to make sure of the only life that is real."

Pillaging foods banks and social security is a royal road to hell.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
18. He is a terrible choice.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

I do believe however that he is saying no in hopes that they will beg him. He would then be able to point that out over and over and over every time he spoke.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
19. He owes his job to gerrymandering
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

From what I understand, he wouldn't win his district if it hadn't been gerrymandered to ensure that the Republican candidate will always win the election for the House seat.

He's a punk.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
24. I really think that despite of the gerrymandering, his seat is vulnerable.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:54 AM
Oct 2015

District 1 includes Racine, one of the hardest hit cities in Wisconsin during the recession. If only a progressive democrat would challenge him.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
25. Ryan is a con man who echoes Right Wing failed policies from others....
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:29 AM
Oct 2015

I don't see one original idea from him.

It's Reaganomic word salad.

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