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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKasich on Social Security cuts: "You'll get over it."
Washington (CNN)Ohio Gov. John Kasich said Friday that a New Hampshire audience member would "get over" cuts to Social Security payments as a result of his reform plan -- and the left is already pouncing on the comment.
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He asked audience members to raise their hands if they were far from receiving Social Security, asked them if they knew yet what their initial benefit would be and then asked them if they would be bothered if it were a little lower for the good of the country.
One person said it would be a problem.
"Well, you'd get over it, and you're going to have to get over it," Kasich joked.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/john-kasich-get-over-it-social-security/index.html
underpants
(182,736 posts)Jeb
Trump
Lindsay
Human101948
(3,457 posts)That alone will doom him to ignominy.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Most people won't see this side of him and think he's sweet as pie. You don't want him near the nomination.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Trump is driving the clown car right now.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)People laughed at Reagan, too.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Really a Winner!
usaf-vet
(6,178 posts)..... Raise the income cap from it current $118,000 to make every dollar earned subject to 6.2% SS withholding. Currently Congress members making $176,000 only pay SS tax on the first $118,000. The remaining $58,000 is SS tax free. Don't punish the low end... tax the high end.
6chars
(3,967 posts)Is that what he meant? Laughing all the way to the bank.
ornotna
(10,798 posts)Gotta rec it so others will see it.
And no, I won't get over it.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)as a "sensible moderate." Nuff said.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)He just wants us all to tighten our belts and eat cat food when we get old.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Kind of your final act of patriotic sacrifice for the rich. I mean the country.
Blus4u
(608 posts)..a lot of assholish things.
Peace
appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)banker with Lehman in Columbus for about 8 years, (2001-2008) in between Congressman and governor. At Lehman, Kasich made hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock bonuses on top of his executive salary, enriching his and his wife's net worth in assets to $9-22 million. So much for the politician known for blue collar heritage.
>No John, people will not 'get over' cuts to vital Social Security benefits.
Kasich with Mitt Romney in 2012.
CNN, "John Kasich's Ties to Wall Street Could Haunt 2016 Bid", June 8, 2015.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/politics/john-kasich-2016-lehman-brothers-wall-street/index.html
StarzGuy
(254 posts)I have an important issue that will affect me. That being, the cut to my SSDI check that will happen next year unless the congress does something about it.
I'm barely able to pay for my apartment rent now. If the 20% cut goes into effect next year, I am screwed. I will have to try to find another cheaper and less secure place to live.
I also don't make it through a month without making a visit to St. Mary's Food bank because the money I do get does not last. I also take a lot of medications. I regularly have to decide on buying food or medications. I often put off refilling my meds until I get my next deposit.
What gets me about these sh*t heads, is where do they get off telling me to just get over it. I'd like to kick Kasich in his ass all the way back to Ohio.
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Justice
(7,185 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I know you will get over your party going into the trash can of history too.
demwing
(16,916 posts)if he would be bothered if his salary were a lowered for the good of the country.
Then we could laugh and tell him to get over it!
Fucking dickweed.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Let's say 75-80% for a start?! Betcha he'll yell loud and long.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)The first thing we should do is lift the cap on the Social Security tax. Then he would at least be paying SS tax on his entire salary, and yes, I imagine he would howl like an angry dog.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It is not right that if you pay payroll taxes on the first $113,000 or thereabouts that you earn and then can, at your discretion, choose to save money from everything you earn over that amount in a 401(K) or IRA or other instrument while those who earn maybe $40,000 a year pay their payroll taxes and cannot save more than that.
Payroll taxes should be imposed on every cent earned on anything in the country. The rate of the tax should be reduced so that the amount placed in Social Security covers the cost of the benefits paid out and puts a little in the Social Security trust fund each year.
For many, many if not most Americans, Social Security is the only retirement savings they have. That is especially true for Americans who were in their 50s and early 60s maybe even late 40s, lost their jobs due to the 2008 crash or corporate takeovers and bankruptcies, had to spend down their savings including their retirement savings and are now completely dependent or will be completely dependent on Social Security for their entire livelihood.
Remember, we all pay taxes. We all pay sales and property taxes. When you consider how little Social Security pays most recipients in a month, you have to think that just paying one's property taxes can take a month or two or more of the benefits from Social Security.
I think the average Social Security (and it is virtually the same as the median because the benefits are capped) is around $1,337 per month. That is just a bit more than minimum wage pays per month based on a 40-hour week. (Maybe $90 more.) (2080 hours per year divided by 12 x $7.25 per hour)
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/
Before Republicans reduce Social Security benefits and refuse to raise the cap, I would ask them to try living on $1,337 per month. Their lifestyles will change drastically.
I think at this time members of Congress earn $174,000 per year (if not officers in the Congress). That's about $14,5000 per month -- more than ten times the amount the average Social Security recipient is paid after a lifetime of work.
Granted, members of Congress work hard and have to maintain two households or rent something in DC, but still, they should not be willing and should not consider reducing the income of the 1/3 of seniors who rely totally on Social Security for their livings.
We have to stop the Republicans if only in order to save Social Security.
And, by the way, I do not think that Hillary Clinton is as strong a supporter of Social Security as Bernie is. That is because of the longstanding Clinton relationship with Pete Peterson arch-enemy of Social Security and with Wall Street in general. Wall Street covets the money that Americans entrust in Social Security.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)I don't think removing the cap would make them no-longer-rich.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)How's about trying to live on $839/Mo. If it weren't for the fact that my partner died while we were building our new house, it would not be paid for by his insurance, and I would be out in the street. And, may still soon be. I am now 4 years behind and the county is telling me they are going to seize my property and sell it for a song to some realtor, just so they can get a mere $11,000. Have had 18.5 ac on the market and only one nibble months ago. A friend of mine the same age was talking with me the other day and he has had his place on a lake on the market for the last two years and not even a nibble. In order to sell, the prices have to be dropped way down to bargain basement pricing where the homeowner gets screwed out of their built-up equity.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Are the walls closing in? Can you afford a doctor?
How about groceries? Maybe the occasional night out?
How about your support system?
I'm worried about you. You matter. Talk to me.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Other than that, I am barely getting by, just like so many other seniors. When we hear that the "average" is, folks forget that 50% are below that average, so there are a lot of people out there falling behind. Tuesday, I will be calling the county offices for DSS and see about resolving the problem. Thank you very much for asking and caring.
llmart
(15,536 posts)and my monthly benefit is $936 after they take out the requisite $104 for Medicare. Most women of my age didn't have access to high paying jobs even if we did have a degree. Pensions became a thing of the past - the rules changed in the '80's when corporations could file bankruptcy and not have to honor their pension obligations. I have a small pension from a publicly funded institution but that's only because I was a union member when I worked there.
The jerks in Ohio who elected this bozo are too stupid to even see how he has his hands in their pockets.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)Maybe he should hand out cans of cat food to the oldsters at his next rally.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)dembotoz
(16,799 posts)i swear it is like jews for hitler
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)I live in a very conservative area, have been here over 60 years, and have known some of these folks since they were kids. I know some of them relied on food stamps and welfare and SSI in the past. And I know most of them would be up the creek today if not for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. But the damn fools still vote Republican every time.
To them, entitlements are something THEY are providing for lazy welfare junkies that live in "urban areas".
And they think conservatives are "looking out for them".
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And he can point out that the protein content of the cat food is every bit as good as that from canned mackerel!
central scrutinizer
(11,646 posts)The GOP version of modular retirement housing
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)They can use those to cover up at night when they're sleeping on the park bench.
icymist
(15,888 posts)There's a reason I moved away in '83.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)I moved away in '79. I'd rather do with a lower standard of living in California than ever move back. Ohio's laws and government and oppresive and fucked-up.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Nevah, evah going back. Too damn many Republicans. I say that in the knowledge that some of my cousins are Ohio Tafts.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I can't say that I ever wanted to go back.
Springslips
(533 posts)This is the problem with the nation. The people who are good are so, so weak. We are changing things here; hell he would not had bern elected had many stayed, or got out the vote, which is the real reason, or stayed to make the State dems stronger, another reason he was elected. Stop running, stop the narcissism.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Auggie
(31,156 posts)Tough choice: Cleveland or The Bay Area?
Here's a Facebook video from the asshat republican congressman that represents my old district, Dave Joyce ("Going to vote to hold #PlannedParenthood accountable and get to the bottom of what happened in those disgusting videos" :
https://www.facebook.com/RepDaveJoyce/videos/vb.404318572981934/890483141032139/?type=2&theater
119 likes, and many comments in favor. Disgusting.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Not many can afford the Bay Area.
icymist
(15,888 posts)The poverty. Watching the steel mills get torn down. The violence in the streets between biker gangs and organized crime families. All the crooked politicians; those that felt entitled to something in return for just doing their fu*king job! It was only getting worse so I left and I'm grateful for every moment now after getting out of that place. No. I would be narcissistic if I remained in that rat hole. Or worse, a victim of a society whose motto had become, "That's just the way it is and there's nothing you can do about it." Way to go, Ohio:
It's really too bad. They have some really good musicians from there.
Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)That Rush uses this as his theme music.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Kasich only won by 2% against Ted Strickland in the depth of the recession. Fools blamed Strickland.
Since Kasich took office he refused Fast Rail money that is badly needed. Then he tried to kill Public Unions. That exploded in his face with 1.3 million signatures to put it on the ballot. That won a big No vote.
He retreated to do his dirty work in private, cutting School Funds, shoveling funds into his friends Charter Schools.where we have a scandal a month exposed by Investigative Reporters. It is so bad the Republican Legislature passed a bill on strict over sight.
He did take the ACA money.
Now,he is selling the prisons to his friends. So just guess what he would do in the White House?
He built up a rainy day fund now that the economy is better. Schools have begged him to use some of that.
But he will soon be gone. As for living in Ohio. The cost of living is great. I love the change of Seasons, the lush green,plenty of rivers and aquifiers. I will stay here,thank you very much.
whathehell
(29,065 posts)for 'the good of the country'. They will definitely get over it and they can certainly afford it more than seniors on fixed
incomes.
appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)ZM90
(706 posts)"You'll have to get over it."
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Please don't call us; we'll call you.
Please don't worry. You'll get over not being president.
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)Screw You !!!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)scaled back the scope of its military/intelligence foreign entanglements.
"Kasich joked." Think about that one.
What he considers funny and what I consider funny are two different things. The problem with the ideological right is they have started to believe their own propaganda.
Anyone that advocates cuts to entitlements is, in fact, an extremist. For all his posturing to the contrary, now you know Kasich for the extremist he is.
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)and I depend on social security to survive..and no ass wipe....i will NOT get over it....
PatSeg
(47,370 posts)Take from the least and give to the wealthy. Whenever they talk about "cutting" anything, it is the poor, the sick, and the elderly - they have no power, so they'll "get over it".
jalan48
(13,855 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)It's as if he was telling the senior citizen, "Sit down and shut up".
wolfie001
(2,225 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)asshole.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Na na na na, hey hey hey, goooooood bye.
I have no idea what 1 and 2 were, but it don't matter. This should end it for him.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,381 posts)to get over his aspirations to be President and go back to fu*king Ohio, you a$$hole.
In fact, I think I'll go find his website and tell him just that.
mnhtnbb
(31,381 posts)I understand that Governor Kasich thinks that Social Security recipients should anticipate lower payments "for the good of the country" and that they'll get over it when their payments are lowered.
Here's what I think, Governor, and I am already drawing Social Security. You need to get over your aspirations to
be President and go back to Ohio and stay there. This country needs Bernie Sanders for President, not you.
So get over yourself, you a$$hole.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)
Kasich leaves Ohio,the better.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)And this has nothing to do with anything, but while I was never a bully in my school days, there's just something about Bobby Jindal that makes me want to push him against a wall and take his lunch money away. I resent him for making me feel like that.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)in companies that make cat food.
dmr
(28,347 posts)And, no pay increases or perks waiting in the wings to slip past us.
It's for the good for the country and the American people. You'll get over it. You'll have to, after all you are patriotic, aren't you?
TBF
(32,041 posts)I think he's forgetting who votes. Does he really think people are going to go for this? We know that "good of the country" is just another way to say "the rich folks don't want to pay for this anymore".
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)don't want to pay back the $2.7 trillion surplus they stole from us.
TBF
(32,041 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Gawd I hate these fucking PUKES!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)kairos12
(12,851 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Response to ladjf (Reply #51)
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ladjf
(17,320 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)He'll never get the presidential nomination, but he might get picked as the "moderate" to be VP.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)he just DOES.NOT.GET.IT.
his greedy old pig party made sure jobs were pimped offshore, wages stagnated and pensions cut, and now we're told we have to GET OVER cuts to Social Security?
dawnie51
(959 posts)I was wondering when our fine governor would show himself. He can make nice for a while, but long term, the asshole-ishness just pops out. And at the worst times too. Life the $115,000 income ban, Kasich! You know how to get this fixed.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)would he like it if he got his salary cut . these idiots have been going after s.s since its founding and theyd have a rebelion on their hands .
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)that a 10% cut in the military budget would do wonders for infrastructure. Or a 20% cut in their salary.
Just leave our SS and medicare/medicaid alone.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I'm sure at least that much is waste.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)When Trever Noah pressed Rachael Maddow with the question "if someone held a gun
to your head, and forced you to say 'If you were a Republican, which GOP candidate
would you most support?" .. Rachael couldn't answer, kept trying to not say, laughing
her ass off, etc .. but finally blurted out "... OK .. Kasich" ..
I kind of thought the same, watching the first GOP debate. So this just goes to illustrate
just how bankrupt the GOP is, in terms of having any humanity or sense of doing what's
right for the "little people".
FUCK THEM ALL!!!
I seriously don't think they even want to win , not really, or they wouldn't act like this; which
is curiously related to this OP of mine, about how lame the DNC/Democratic Party is these
daze, and why that is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251660366
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)I call him Kashits.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,969 posts)publicans.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
Punx
(446 posts)From the party of compassionate conservatism.
Someday people are going to wake up. Have to wonder how he'll get over the guillotine.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)This will help the elderly get over it sooner.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)since they will die from malnutrition, homelessness, or suicide. What have the poor done to piss off the right wingers other than being poor?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Many of them truly believe that all poor people brought poverty on themselves and that their own wealth is a sign of their own righteousness.
ZX86
(1,428 posts)Jokes about cutting payments to social security recipients. So typical.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY? What about getting rid of the cap on FICA taxes for the wealthy? HUH?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)since when does that mean less then 1% of us?
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)I had to leave the country so I could actually live on my social security. Otherwise it was a choice between roof or food. I decided I wanted both. Good nutrition and quality rest are both important to me, so NO, I will absolutely not get over it.
lastlib
(23,204 posts)You just had your Ronmey moment, dude. That little fumble is going to be in every anti-Kasich ad run from now to doomsday!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Yep, let's take more from the 99%.
How friggin low is this?
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)Put one hand on my SS benefits, I'll come after you.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)"Well, you'd get over it."
But that would require him to consider that as a plan
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Bernblu
(441 posts)And he was supposed to be the reasonable Republican candidate.
Lunabell
(6,078 posts)Someone who woks hard all their life deserves better than to just "get over it".
Turbineguy
(37,313 posts)you won't have so long to wait either.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Raping our state and selling the rest.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)He is not hiding anything.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)He gets +2 points for honesty (undoubtedly a brief lapse of judgment) and -100 for being a callous, selfish dickhead.
whathehell
(29,065 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)objective is to fund tax cuts for the 1%. And, the GOP politicians are now bold enough to say in public that they intend to take SS money from us and to give it to the rich. Vote Democratic -- the ass you save may be your own.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I would bet that the majority of Republican candidates would like to see this "hold harmless clause" be eliminated (so what if your Social Security goes down?), besides which they would want ALL "welfare" Social Security and Medicare programs to end totally.
Too poor and cannot save enough for your old age? Just beg on the streets, or die.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)He's sixty years old now. Who wants to bet he'll be glad to accept that monthly check in two years?
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)riversedge
(70,182 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)On economic issues, he's strictly a 1% guy.