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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:43 PM Oct 2015

It’s Official: Drug Testing Welfare Applicants FAILS by Costing More Than Twice What It Saves

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/its-official-drug-testing-welfare-applicants-fails-costing-more-twice-what-it

In an ostensible attempt to combat the increasing welfare state in America, the conservatives moved to begin drug testing applicants to the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). The program was hailed by the right as the be all end all to those “lazy welfare recipients sitting at home and smoking their drugs all day. ”

Advocates of the legislation claim that they will save money by getting those “evil drug users off of the government teet, thereby reducing the expense of the welfare system. Sounds great doesn’t it?...

The most recent state to show the abject failure of mixing the War on Drugs with the Welfare State is Tennessee. After spending copious amounts of taxpayer dollars to catch TANF recipients in their ploy to use drugs while receiving aid to feed their children, they uncovered drug use in less the 0.2 percent of all applicants....

However, the costs are far more than just the drug test items. The state does not take into account the cost of staff to conduct the testing, the paperwork, the cost to notify the people or any of the other external costs of looking into people’s urine for evil traces of drugs.


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It’s Official: Drug Testing Welfare Applicants FAILS by Costing More Than Twice What It Saves (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2015 OP
isn't the fail rate of the test higher than .2? questionseverything Oct 2015 #1
Probably a lot higher. longship Oct 2015 #3
The reason to do it is to shame those who would seek help. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #2
Exactly FiveGoodMen Oct 2015 #7
CAN WE PLEASE DRUG TEST THE PEOPLE WHO START WARS AND CRASH THE ECONOMY Skittles Oct 2015 #4
Suck it fuckos Blue Owl Oct 2015 #5
Do you really think that matters? mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #6
Yep. I pointed this out to a RWer who supposedly wants fiscal responsibility. progressoid Oct 2015 #11
Funny thing... Fairgo Oct 2015 #8
when will the "government waste" hating GOP demand we put a stop to this? Takket Oct 2015 #9
On the twelfth. KamaAina Oct 2015 #10

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Probably a lot higher.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:58 PM
Oct 2015

Which means that false negatives will be overwhelmed by false positives just from the statistics alone.

Drug testing just does not work.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
2. The reason to do it is to shame those who would seek help.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:56 PM
Oct 2015

To repay donors with fat governmental contracts to do or supply the test kits.
To burn up TANF funds with administrative cost to justify shutting it down entirely as ineffective; thus freeing up funding for tax relief.

To make more people desperate, hungry, scared, and therefore easier to manipulate.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
4. CAN WE PLEASE DRUG TEST THE PEOPLE WHO START WARS AND CRASH THE ECONOMY
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:59 PM
Oct 2015

SERIOUSLY

THEY ARE THE PEOPLE COSTING US MONEY

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
6. Do you really think that matters?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:30 PM
Oct 2015

Do you think the people who passed the laws to drug-test welfare recipients care about cost?

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
11. Yep. I pointed this out to a RWer who supposedly wants fiscal responsibility.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:51 PM
Oct 2015

He tried to dodge the issue because he couldn't admit that he was wrong.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
8. Funny thing...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:43 PM
Oct 2015

If drugs weren't illegal. And drug abuse was a public health issue not a law enforcement one. I'm guessing the systemic cost of substance use would collapse, maybe even disappear... given that the side effects of the war on drugs sustain and expand poverty, which feeds drug use in a never ending cycle of misery.

By the way, what ever happened to the war on poverty? Did we lose that one?

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