Want a gun? Take a bullet:

[sarisataka]

Want a gun? Take a bullet: Take this, gutless NRA cowards — you can have a gun, once you understand the pain of being shot

As a teen I watched Chris Rock brilliantly address America’s gun problem during his Bigger and Blacker stand up. “We don’t need gun control,” Rock pleaded to a packed house, “We need bullet control––if bullets were $5000, people would think before they shot some one! You gotta really piss someone off for them to dump $50,000 worth of bullets in to you!” And just like the crowd, my brother, some friends and I erupted in laughter.

Rock was definitely on point, $5000 bullets would be great but I’d take it a step further––I believe that being shot should be requirement for gun ownership in America. It’s very simple. You need to have gun, like taking selfies with pistols, can’t live with out it? Then take a bullet and you will be granted the right to purchase the firearm of your choice.

If we could successfully implement this rule, I guarantee the mass shootings will stop. Watching cable news now in days makes me physically ill. Week in and week out we are forced to learn about another coward, who can’t stand to deal with the same rejection that most of us face–– so they strap themselves with guns and then cock and spray at innocent people. Heartbroken survivors and family member images go viral, as our elected officials remain clueless.

The Democrats faced off for the first time this week. Clinton lead with a stat that was just as staggering as it was sad, “90 people a day die due to gun violence!” followed by the rhetoric that has been tossed around for years––more rigorous gun laws coupled with a stricter screening process and plans that are never clear or properly fleshed out. She and Bernie traded blows on who’s tougher but still––no solutions on aggressively addressing this matter.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/want_a_gun_take_a_bullet_new_rule_before_you_pack_heat_you_will_know_what_it_feels_like_to_be_shot/

[Eleanors38]

1. You need a swimming pool? Then drown one of your kids. That's so-o-o-o logical

frommthe master thinker at Saloon.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. Can we cut it with the guns = swimming pools analogies from you folk?

Also, go ahead and nix the guns = bikes as well.

[Lizzie Poppet]

5. Sure. As soon as idiotic suggestions like the one the OP references stop.

'Coz that Salon article is one of the most pungently moronic things I've ever read...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

7. The Salon article was written tongue in cheek.

On the other hand, we keep on getting "bikes are more dangerous than guns" and "swimming pools are more dangerous than guns" and "cars are more dangerous than guns" thrown at us from the gun enthusiast crowd without a single drip of irony.

[Lizzie Poppet]

8. One would hope, anyway.

Personally, I don't take those shit-tier analogies very seriously, either. I realize there are people offering them up in all seriousness...but horrible arguments abound on both sides of this issue.

[MillennialDem]

9. Of course the salon article was moronic if you took it literally but

knock off the cars, swimming pools, etc are more dangerous than guns nonsense. I can choose to swim or drive a car (or not). I ccan't choose to not be shot, but not owning a gun reduces my chances.

[Lizzie Poppet]

11. *shrug* Nothing for me to knock off.

I've never made those analogies...I agree that they're silly.

[Eleanors38]

16. See #13. Make that kind of argument & get effective pushback. nt

[Quackers]

6. Can I use it for when my wife wants to buy new kitchen knives?

Want a knife? Motherfucker, you getten stabbed!!!

[Eleanors38]

13. You read the "argument" in the OP, didn't you? That stuff invites comparison...

And immediate and effective pushback. That should be obvious.

Perhaps the best way to end bikes & pools arguments is to try another approach, Carcetti. No one gets a free pass from criticism just because they make a pro-gun control argument.

Question: Do you think gun-ownership should be based on the experience of being shot?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

17. Do you take all things literally and at face value?

Here's the problem with the gun lobby and their backers such as yourself. They'll take the most unrealistic concept, like this one which was clearly made tongue and cheek, and run with it as if it were real.

But I honestly think many of you guys really think guns can be equally compared to swimming pools and cars and bikes without a single bit of irony or sarcasm. Hell, I've heard it right here on the DU of all places.

[Eleanors38]

19. Sorry, but your remarks strike me as disingenuous. You take the "take a bullet" crap seriously..

The OP appeared in the Open gun group, then in Gunz Discussion, and reflects the same kind of approach as "penis talk." Gun controllers take great pleasure in this kind of thing, as did the Saloon writer; after all, what would culture war prohibitionism be without the "sweetest of moral pleasures (Huxley)?" So, no backing out now by calling it an 'unrealistic concept' (a strangely de-natured description).

You should take a look at the leading causes of accidental deaths for children under 15 yoa. Gunz is wa-a-a-a-ay down the list.

Backers of the mysterious and majestic cackling hen 'gun lobby?' Reminds me of the "are you now, have you ever been" question posed by another controller in Gunz or Gunz Discussion. Why he refuses to talk to me, now! The closest backing of any gun lobby is an ongoing membership in Ducks Unlimited (the other DU), and the Nat'l Wildlife Fed.

Just what IS the 'gun lobby," now or ever been?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. What in God's Holy Name are you blathering about?

Clearly shooting after shooting (most notably Sandy Hook) did nothing to convince the gun enthusiast crowd and the gun lobby (and yes, you very well know who the gun lobby is, even if you aren't a card carrying member of such organizations) to support even the most mild and seemingly common sense gun control measures (think Manchin Toomey), the question naturally is: what would convince them?

And thus, the Salon piece posited--tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently you don't seem capable of realizing that--maybe the only way to convince such persons is if they got shot themselves. Clearly it's an absurd proposition meant to bring home a much more sobering point. I'm sorry you missed it.

You talk about accidental causes of death of children under the age of 15 as if you think that somehow excuses the ludicrous urge to compare guns--something primarily designed as a weapon--to swimming pools, cars and bikes.

Gotcha.

[SecularMotion]

2. X-Post from the gungeon

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172178456

[sarisataka]

12. And

You may post it to GCRA if you want.

[Eleanors38]

15. Ah, hell it's All Gunz All the Time in GD, now. How long has it been?

DU will have to shut down both groups and go back to 2010!

[SecularMotion]

3. New training required for gun owners

[Nuclear Unicorn]

18. Gun controllers should have to personally disarm gun owners if they want guns off the street.

[SecularMotion]

22. Are you saying all gun owners are like this guy?

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[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. No. I'm saying grabbers work very hard to live up to his caricature of grabbers.

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. Put Andy in charge of all the bullets before this guy gets his hand on one

[Eleanors38]

14. I swear, that looks like a .30-30 round and a .38 revolver. Thank god it doesn't fit.

[virginia mountainman]

21. With that article, and Hillary's recent statements about gun confiscation.

The NRA suddenly don't seem so extreme after all....