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F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:01 PM Oct 2015

How do you talk to someone who can't understand you? (Updated! I can speak nepalese!)

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:32 PM - Edit history (1)

There is a buddhist monk who comes into my coffee shop on a regular basis. He is older, and has an extremely hoarse voice. It is quite literally imossible to understand a thing he says; I don't even recognize fragments of a language. I think his body has been damaged by something.

I don't think he understands us, either. We communicate about prices using our fingers, and that's about it.

He always seems so sad when he comes in here. I imagine he has been through a lot. He looks for someone to talk to. I think he's pretty lonely.

So I want to talk to him. I would love to put a smile on his face. There's a small drum that we have in the shop, and he likes to pick it up and play with it. I think he would love one of his own. Does anyone know how to make a small drum?

I am considering pulling up a map of the world, and showing him where I come from, and asking him where he is from.

I'm also thinking about bringing in a whiteboard to communicate with him through pictures.

He needs someone.

Any ideas?

Edit: so he was sitting there, and I decided to just sit down with him and talk to him. I showed him a map of the world and we talked about where he came from and where I come from. Then I asked him about his prayer beads, and I kinda understood his answer. He's from slightly west or east of nepal from somewhere slightly different. His name is Llama something, but I don't really know how to write it. We shared some tea and then went on a walk to go feed some birds with bagel crumbs. I now know how to say water, moving, rain, tree, flower, and bird in Nepali...or another language, because he told me he spoke a different one but I don't know what it is. I learned both words for water and moving, and for rain, but I only kinda have an idea which is which.

We'll be meeting tomorrow to enjoy each other's company some more. Kinda fun to not have a clue what the other person is saying most of the time

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How do you talk to someone who can't understand you? (Updated! I can speak nepalese!) (Original Post) F4lconF16 Oct 2015 OP
Can he read and write english? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #1
I don't know. I will be finding out. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #2
I want to cry. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #3
Perhaps you could present him with a simple present. When he appears quizzical, jonno99 Oct 2015 #4
I have studied French, Spanish and German, morningglory Oct 2015 #6
Great story! I'm passing this on as a suggestion. jonno99 Oct 2015 #7
I'm sure this is an ignorant question; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #5
I forget who told me... F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #9
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #13
Red robes? Sounds like he's highly placed in a Tibetan monastery. Warpy Oct 2015 #16
Yeah the other barista just told me apparently he's a master meditator. Nt F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #19
morningglory had a great idea. If you've got a pad (and are able to devine his language), jonno99 Oct 2015 #8
Yes, thanks for both of your ideas! F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #10
Good luck (and let us know how it goes!) nt jonno99 Oct 2015 #11
Updated! Nt F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #20
wow - awesome. That is really cool. Thx for the update! jonno99 Oct 2015 #23
The map is a good idea JI7 Oct 2015 #12
Picture boards are great tools to use. If you can get one, use it. Warpy Oct 2015 #14
I'll bring my journal along next time. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #21
Yell. lovemydog Oct 2015 #15
LOL good one. nt morningglory Oct 2015 #18
A similar situation happened to me once in China hifiguy Oct 2015 #17
Ha! F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #22

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
2. I don't know. I will be finding out.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

I don't think so though. He can't read our menu as far as I can tell.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
3. I want to cry.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:08 PM
Oct 2015

A child came in to play with the toys next to the man, and he is watching, smiling. I asked him for the drum nearby, and he showed the child how to play it with the beads on his jacket. The child did for a bit, and then told him it was loud and terrible.

I love the way his eyes crinkle when he smiles.

That's love, and communication.

Sometimes humanity is wonderful.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
4. Perhaps you could present him with a simple present. When he appears quizzical,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:10 PM
Oct 2015

you could try placing your hands on your heart and then point towards him. Then if you're comfortable enough perhaps touch his shoulder.

If you are able to develop a rapport with this "exchange", you might point to yourself and say "english", and then point to him - hoping he will provide his nationality. If you are successful, you now have the impetus to learn a new language...


Too, I like your white board & map ideas...

morningglory

(2,336 posts)
6. I have studied French, Spanish and German,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:19 PM
Oct 2015

I have studied French, Spanish and German, and can get a conversation going on simple subjects with Portuguese, Italian, and other people. Once in Atlanta I had a maid who was from a Soviet satellite country. I asked her if she spoke any of the languages I can communicate in. She said the Russians only allowed them to speak Russian (bastids). She kept asking for different cleaning supplies. I tried to tell her to just bring whatever she needed and I would pay her for it. I used the translation software available in 1999 computers. I translated that sentence into her language and she busted a gut laughing. Hee hawed and slapped her knees.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. I'm sure this is an ignorant question; but, ...
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:16 PM
Oct 2015

how do you know he's a buddhist monk?

Consider reaching out to the local buddhist organization ... tell them your story. Perhaps, someone could happen to stop by when he is there to facilitate a dialogue.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
9. I forget who told me...
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:24 PM
Oct 2015

But he also wears the clothing--the red robes, carries the beads, etc.

And wears a redskins cap, haha.

That's an excellent idea.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
16. Red robes? Sounds like he's highly placed in a Tibetan monastery.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:24 PM
Oct 2015

Show him a map of Asia and start there.

If he is what I think he is, he's got plenty of people to talk to. He most likely comes to your place for a little peace and quiet.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
8. morningglory had a great idea. If you've got a pad (and are able to devine his language),
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

you could get your pad to translate your words into his language...

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
14. Picture boards are great tools to use. If you can get one, use it.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

Back in WWII, they had booklets called "lookee talkee" that were basically picture boards between two covers. People on the ground could write down approximations of the word the locals used for the picture and cope a little better.

I once had the experience of sweet talking a Chinese grocery owner who spoke no English into accepting a check that was against posted policy. He did. The check was good, of course. You can go a long way with pantomime if you're not afraid to make an arse out of yourself.

A picture board would preserve everybody's dignity.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
21. I'll bring my journal along next time.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:34 PM
Oct 2015

For now, I made a fool of myself waving my arms and cawing in front of a bunch of high school football players

Judgement? Yes.

Do I care? Not in the slightest

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. A similar situation happened to me once in China
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:34 PM
Oct 2015

where I was in a perfectly ghastly, bedbug-infested hotel, though the circumstances were funny.

The toilet backed up and I went down to the woman at the front desk. I mimed taking my pants down (while leaving them on, garbageheads ) and sitting on the loo, then stood up and made plunger motions. She laughed and got the point immediately. And unplugged the toilet with a plunger.

Though it must be said the Chinese notion of toilet paper is a little strange. Little packets of tissue like this, albeit without the bear.

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