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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:22 PM Oct 2015

After Suing The CIA, Human Rights Group Burglarized – All Evidence Needed For Lawsuit Stolen

Some stuff to keep from falling down the Memory Hole...



After Suing The CIA, Human Rights Group Burglarized – All Evidence Needed For Lawsuit Stolen

By John Vibes
ActivistPost, Oct. 23, 2015

The University of Washington’s Center for Human Rights was recently burglarized after they filed a lawsuit against the CIA for refusing to release declassified documents to the public. Data and equipment were stolen from the office, and it is suspected that the CIA may have had something to do with the break-in. The specific documents in question that the group was filing the lawsuit over were also stolen from the office.

SNIP...

The center filed the lawsuit just weeks ago, on October 2nd. The lawsuit alleged that the CIA violated the Freedom of Information Act by withholding information about the 1981 Santa Cruz massacre in El Salvador.

The Santa Cruz massacre was carried out by an elite puppet dictatorship that was heavily backed and influenced by the CIA and the US government. The military forces, led by Lt. Colonel Sigifredo Ochoa Pérez, killed hundreds of innocent civilians who were fleeing the gunfire. The CIA has spent decades protecting Pérez, and keeping the war crimes that took place a secret. However, Pérez is currently on trial in El Salvador, and the declassified CIA files could actually help with the case against him.

“The CIA’s denial of our request is not credible. The CIA has previously declassified 20 documents relating to Ochoa. Why didn’t they at least give us copies of those same documents? There can be no national security concerns about documents that have already been made public,” Mina Manuchehri, one of the lawsuit’s plaintiffs said in a recent article.

Pérez was a favorite of the US military – Col. John Waghlestein, head of the U.S. Military Advisory Group said in a 1987 interview that “One of the things we tried to do, we kind of jokingly say we’d like to do, is clone Ochoa because he was so effective.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/after-suing-the-cia-human-rights-group-burglarized-all-evidence-needed-for-lawsuit-stolen.html



The Guardian picked up on the story. For some reason, it hasn't been mentioned here in Detroit or on my television screen.

Gee. Another coincidence.
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After Suing The CIA, Human Rights Group Burglarized – All Evidence Needed For Lawsuit Stolen (Original Post) Octafish Oct 2015 OP
Clearly this happened accidentally on purpose. marmar Oct 2015 #1
The CIA Is Still Refusing to Release Its Files on This Alleged War Criminal Octafish Oct 2015 #4
Thanks for sharing all this tblue Oct 2015 #82
lol. maybe it was abducted by aliens uhnope Oct 2015 #55
I guess we can't call it a conspiracy theory, eh? PatrickforO Oct 2015 #2
Conspiracies In Action. Octafish Oct 2015 #15
it's so insanely un-democratic and contrary to our supposed principles... Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #53
could those bastards be any more obvious??? niyad Oct 2015 #3
Why, yes. But Watergate break-ins are passe. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #7
''Sólo Dios estaba con nosotros.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #16
thank you for posting this, will have to watch later, though. niyad Oct 2015 #19
Good fucking god! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #32
New York Times covered for illegal war... Octafish Oct 2015 #62
thanks, Octafish! librechik Oct 2015 #64
Because they know that they are bullet proof. christx30 Oct 2015 #20
^^^THIS^^^ Octafish Oct 2015 #24
La Penca Octafish Oct 2015 #34
Ed Meese was a criminal - stole the PROMIS software from Inslaw bananas Oct 2015 #59
this story was part of my early radicalization. grasswire Oct 2015 #85
Inslaw-PROMIS Octafish Oct 2015 #93
Yes they can. The next phase is that they come in the front door with guns and demand rhett o rick Oct 2015 #48
why should they librechik Oct 2015 #65
They will do it because they can. They are getting bolder and bolder and it's being normalized. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #69
it's normalized, all right--but how can you be bolder librechik Oct 2015 #70
Which president are you referring to? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #78
They've killed more than one. But the answer is the same. When the bullet has "property of the CIA" rhett o rick Oct 2015 #84
Note to self: tabasco Oct 2015 #5
With multiple back-ups in various locations. Downwinder Oct 2015 #6
and at an undisclosed location, with LOTS of redundancy and backup niyad Oct 2015 #9
That was the point of Wikileaks. leveymg Oct 2015 #51
& thumb drives Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #26
and, to all the silly Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #28
Our tax dollars at work. jalan48 Oct 2015 #8
hey, I remember CISPES--death-squad goons let into Los Angeles to rob what they could MisterP Oct 2015 #10
some reason? librechik Oct 2015 #11
CIA - Henchmen For American Empire - Know Thy Enemy cantbeserious Oct 2015 #12
Move along. Nothing to see here. Moral Compass Oct 2015 #13
COINCIDENCE. Completely random! How can you think otherwise? n/t TygrBright Oct 2015 #14
"...elements that make this an unusual incident" suffragette Oct 2015 #17
"The break-in coincided with a campus visit by CIA Director John Brennan" nt bananas Oct 2015 #61
Cover for Action. PeoViejo Oct 2015 #81
Yes, that definitely caught my eye. suffragette Oct 2015 #87
Quelle surprise! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #18
Maybe they did it to themselves ymetca Oct 2015 #21
F.F.I. FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #33
Like a false flag event? Octafish Oct 2015 #35
Oh, My... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #22
Something doesn't seem right about this story Zorro Oct 2015 #23
was witness documents, names?/statements?. Stuff the buglers can use to snuff 'witnesses' Sunlei Oct 2015 #42
Seems pretty farfetched to me Zorro Oct 2015 #45
Fortunately... CanSocDem Oct 2015 #63
Fortunately... Zorro Oct 2015 #75
Maybe the documents were from an unofficial source and therefore JDPriestly Oct 2015 #44
I doubt the CIA had any interest in burglarizing the place Zorro Oct 2015 #47
The CIA would not be the only group or the only person interested JDPriestly Oct 2015 #54
Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #80
I didn't realize "that most CIA documents are exempt from FOIA" Center for Human rights, Sunlei Oct 2015 #25
by determination, not by law. They just refuse, and journalists sue librechik Oct 2015 #72
Church Lady says> BlueJazz Oct 2015 #27
+1 nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #38
Is church lady still a repigliCON? lonestarnot Oct 2015 #67
Yeah, most likely. I've heard he was a Dem until he became famous and had some power. Figures. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #74
yep, pip squeak asshat. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #92
"and it is suspected that the CIA may have had something to do with the break-in" Matariki Oct 2015 #29
America is SUPPOSED to be a democracy... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #30
It all goes back to the Dulles Brothers, hifiguy Oct 2015 #41
Amen. gregcrawford Oct 2015 #52
Brudda, you got that SO right. hifiguy Oct 2015 #58
They are in the interests of shareholders. raouldukelives Oct 2015 #60
that's because you believe the US is a democracy of good will and fair intentions librechik Oct 2015 #71
No, I'm too old and seen too much to be that naive... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #73
Thanks Octafish 1norcal Oct 2015 #31
Just reserved a copy. Octafish Oct 2015 #88
Time to go back. silverweb Oct 2015 #36
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #37
"MAY have had something to do with the burglary." hifiguy Oct 2015 #39
Tide goes in, tide goes out; you can't explain that! graegoyle Oct 2015 #40
Let's hope they had scanned it all into electronic form. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #43
K&R. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #46
I am just shocked, shocked, I tell you! 2naSalit Oct 2015 #49
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #50
I have my doubts that this is what they think it is mythology Oct 2015 #56
the second goal is to terrorize the subject librechik Oct 2015 #66
Just wait long enough and they'll admit to coups and war crimes... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #57
"Some analysts" ronnie624 Oct 2015 #79
We've come a long way since Watergate. bemildred Oct 2015 #68
BFEE forever gains, thanks to official secrecy. Octafish Oct 2015 #91
Isn't that what happened to Michael Rupport (spelling?) author of Hotler Oct 2015 #76
this is so obviously and memorably what the CIA/etc does, it's modus operandus librechik Oct 2015 #77
we ought to have a pinned thread somewhere on DU... grasswire Oct 2015 #86
terrorists EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #83
Secret Government Benefits The Overclass Octafish Oct 2015 #89
Kick and R BeanMusical Oct 2015 #90
k&r nt Electric Monk Oct 2015 #94

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. The CIA Is Still Refusing to Release Its Files on This Alleged War Criminal
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:42 PM
Oct 2015

I believe the colonel's on the left.



The CIA Is Still Refusing to Release Its Files on This Alleged War Criminal

by Ian Gordon
Mother Jones, Oct. 5, 2015

In November 1981, early in what would become a 12-year civil war, Lt. Colonel Sigifredo Ochoa Pérez led an estimated 1,200 Salvadoran troops into a rural region near the Honduran border. As part of an eight-day campaign to eliminate guerrillas in the area, the soldiers allegedly killed dozens, even hundreds, of fleeing civilians near the community of Santa Cruz.

Now, nearly 34 years later, a group of human rights experts is trying to help bring Ochoa Pérez to justice—and is taking the fight to the CIA, as well. On Friday, the University of Washington Center for Human Rights (UWCHR) filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the CIA after the agency would neither confirm nor deny the existence of documents surrounding the Santa Cruz massacre. That includes files on Ochoa Pérez, who until recently was a member of Congress in El Salvador.

According to UWCHR project coordinator Phil Neff, the massacre was emblematic of the Salvadoran government's scorched-earth campaigns to "cleanse" areas of guerrillas while often claiming the lives of civilians. Ochoa Pérez, whom Neff calls "one of the US's top counterinsurgents during the '80s," is currently facing a criminal investigation in El Salvador in connection to the offensive. Now that Ochoa Pérez's congressional immunity has run out, the UWCHR is hoping to use CIA intelligence from that era to move the long-stalled cases against him.

"There have been no successful prosecutions of this kind in El Salvador," Neff says. "In comparison to Guatemala, the advances have been insignificant. So it's thought that he may be low-hanging fruit—but he's not an insignificant guy."

Kate Doyle, a senior analyst of US policy in Latin America at the National Security Archive, says the UWCHR faces an uphill battle. "The CIA has been traditionally very well protected against the efforts of citizens to gain records through the legal channels we have open to us," she says, noting that most CIA documents are exempt from FOIA thanks to a 1984 law signed by President Ronald Reagan. The declassifications that do occur, Doyle says, generally happen because the agency releases the information on its own or is forced to by presidential order. That very thing happened in 1993, when President Bill Clinton, under pressure from Congress, pushed the CIA to declassify an estimated 12,000 documents on the Salvadoran civil war, including some on Ochoa Pérez.

CONTINUED...

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/el-salvador-military-cia-lawsuit-ochoa-perez

tblue

(16,350 posts)
82. Thanks for sharing all this
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:14 PM
Oct 2015

This backstory & the break-in really should be headline news. I fear my country.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
2. I guess we can't call it a conspiracy theory, eh?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

More like a conspiracy REALITY I'd say...

The CIA, DEA, FBI, AFT, DOJ, NSA, and officers of the FED - all of these have one thing in common.

They have WAY too much power, and WAY too little accountability.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Conspiracies In Action.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

HERBLOCK noted back in '77...



Why Secret Law Is Un-American

The system established by the U.S. Constitution requires an informed electorate.

CONOR FRIEDERSDORF
The Atlantic, JAN 3, 2014

In recent years, the National Security Agency has relied on secret interpretations of the law to justify its actions, as noted in The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, and a letter that 26 U.S. senators wrote complaining that "the 'business records' provision of the Patriot Act has been secretly reinterpreted." NSA defenders are fond of saying that its activities are legitimized and overseen by all three branches of government. This elides the distinction between Congress as a body and small subcommittees with access to classified information: A subcommittee can be quietly co-opted in a way that Congress cannot.

The notion of a secret body of law is incompatible with the American system of government. Understanding why is as easy as consulting the Federalist Papers, the most thorough explanation the Framers gave us of their republican design and its logic.

The House of Representatives is meant to be responsive to ever-changing popular opinion in the country's many congressional districts. "As it is essential to liberty that the government in general should have a common interest with the people, so it is particularly essential that the branch of it under consideration should have an immediate dependence on, and an intimate sympathy with, the people," James Madison wrote in Federalist 52. "Frequent elections are unquestionably the only policy by which this dependence and sympathy can be effectually secured."

What good are frequent elections if the people are ignorant as to the actual policies their representatives have put into place? National-security state apologists would prefer a system whereby the people elect representatives and trust them to act judiciously in secret. The design of the House presupposes constant reevaluation of a legislator's actions. Americans watching the debate over reauthorizing the Patriot Act couldn't meaningfully lobby or evaluate the performance of their representative. They didn't know the law had been secretly interpreted to allow mass surveillance. The secret interpretation subverted the ability of the people to evaluate their representatives.

The secrecy surrounding surveillance law also meant that many House members themselves were ignorant of what they were voting upon, sometimes because they failed to take advantage of secret briefings, other times because they were incapable of understanding the content of those briefings without outside help, and still other times because the national-security state deliberately withheld information.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-secret-law-is-un-american/282786/

Thank you for grokking, PatrickforO. Secret Government also is unaccountable, including the parts about "who benefits" from secret policies and action?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
53. it's so insanely un-democratic and contrary to our supposed principles...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:54 PM
Oct 2015

the national security state is so sickeningly wrong and so out of control.

Thanks for the post.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. Why, yes. But Watergate break-ins are passe.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:53 PM
Oct 2015

Prediction: MSM Will give this a pass after routine reports.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
32. Good fucking god!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:29 PM
Oct 2015

Thanks for posting. What a world. What a collection of fairy tales we use to wallpaper over what the world really is. And did I hear this correctly? This is all over a community wanting to have a small bit of land to work to combat their own poverty?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
62. New York Times covered for illegal war...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:57 AM
Oct 2015


Reagan Was the Butcher of My People

Weren't for Phillipe, I doubt anyone in USA would know the truth about the war crimes in Santa Cruz.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
64. thanks, Octafish!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:35 AM
Oct 2015

"For us to allow thirty-five years to pass, while debate rages on the subject, is not only an abdication of the required work of a democratic citizenry, but the debate itself actively serves the interests of the assassins. Such debate masks the damage done to the constitutional structure by the extra-constitutional firing of the President." (1998)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. Because they know that they are bullet proof.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015

I mean, who's going to hold them accountable? Have you ever heard of a CIA officer arrested and tried for crimes they commit against the American people? I sure as heck haven't.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. ^^^THIS^^^
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:40 PM
Oct 2015

Pinochet was Poppy's friend.



Unsealed Documents Show Pinochet 'Directly' Involved in Capitol Hill Assassinations

Orlando Letelier and Ronni Karpen Moffitt became 'symbols of the broader human rights catastrophe of the Pinochet dictatorship'

by Sarah Lazare, staff writer
CommonDreams, Oct. 8, 2015

Loved ones have long charged that U.S.-backed dictator Augusto Pinochet had a direct hand in the 1976 assassination of former Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier and his Institute for Policy Studies colleague Ronni Karpen Moffitt. Now, they may finally be vindicated.

The administration of President Barack Obama on Thursday publicly released documents that appear to show that Pinochet was behind the murders of Letelier and Moffitt, who have become "symbols of the broader human rights catastrophe of the Pinochet dictatorship," Sarah Anderson, director of the Global Economy Project at IPS, told Common Dreams.

The materials, which include CIA papers, were given to Chilean President Michelle Bachelet on Tuesday by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

SNIP...

Letelier’s son, Chilean Senator Juan Pablo Letelier, is one of the few people who has reviewed the trove and confirmed to the Guardian that they conclusively show Pinochet directly ordered the killing. In addition, the documents reportedly reveal that Pinochet had intended to cover up his role in the assassination by killing his spy chief.

"In (Pinochet’s) predisposition to defend his position he planned to eliminate Manuel Contreras to keep him from talking," Senator Letelier told the Mesa Central show on Tele13 Radio.

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/10/08/unsealed-documents-show-pinochet-directly-involved-capitol-hill-assassinations

From 2006: Know your BFEE: Los Amigos de Bush

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. La Penca
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:28 PM
Oct 2015

Danny Sheehan and the Christic Institute stood up to War Inc in Central America. I heard him speak on a UAW cable tee vee show in the late 80s about the bombing at La Penca, a front line in the Iran-Contra war crime. The scales fell from my eyes and I was certain the whole kitenkaboodle would soon head to the federal penitentiary.

Instead, Ed Meese and the Just-Us department got the case tossed and broke the Christic Institute at the bank; kept Poppy's name out of it; and demonstrated the corrupt nature of the national security state, something which becomes more visible with each passing day.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
59. Ed Meese was a criminal - stole the PROMIS software from Inslaw
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:27 AM
Oct 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

<snip>

Two different federal bankruptcy courts made fully litigated findings of fact in the late-eighties, ruling that the Justice Department "took, converted, and stole"[nb 7] the Promis installed in U.S. Attorneys' Offices "through trickery, fraud, and deceit,"[nb 8] and then attempted "unlawfully and without justification"[nb 9] to force Inslaw out of business so that it would be unable to seek restitution through the courts.[6]

<snip>

Then, in September 1991, the House Judiciary Committee issued the result of a three-year investigation. House Report 102-857 Inslaw: Investigative Report[6] confirmed the Justice Department's theft of Promis. The report was issued after the Justice Department convinced the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on a jurisdictional technicality to set aside the decisions of the first two federal bankruptcy courts.[nb 12] The House Committee also reported investigative leads indicating that friends of the Reagan White House had been allowed to sell and to distribute Enhanced Promis both domestically and overseas for their personal financial gain and in support of the intelligence and foreign policy objectives of the United States.[3][15][21] The report even went so far as to recommend specifically further investigations of both former Attorney General Edwin Meese and businessman Earl Brian for their possible involvement in illegally providing or selling Promis "to foreign governments including Canada,[22] Israel,[8][23] Singapore, Iraq,[2] Egypt, and Jordan."[6] The Democratic majority called upon Attorney General Dick Thornburgh to compensate Inslaw immediately for the harm that the government had "egregiously" inflicted on Inslaw. The Republican minority dissented. The committee was divided along party lines 21–13. Attorney General Thornburgh ignored the recommendations, and reneged on agreements made with the committee.[6]

<snip>

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
93. Inslaw-PROMIS
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:41 PM
Oct 2015

The late, great Rep. Jack Brooks (D-Texas) was a leading light investigating the affair, receiving little help from his colleagues in exposing Reagan-Meese-Bush corruption.



A Primer on INSLAW

This primer has been collated and provided as a courtesy by Brian Wright. (Thank you.)

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Excerpt from:
NEWS RELEASE
August 11, 1992
U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on the Judiciary

Jack Brooks, Texas, Chairman

JUDICIARY COMMITTEE REPORT CALLS FOR INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE THE INSLAW CONTROVERSY

The ("INSLAW Affair&quot report concludes that there appears to be strong evidence, as indicated by the findings of two Federal court proceedings, as well as by the Committee investigation, that the Department of Justice "acted willfully and fraudulently," and "took, converted and stole," INSLAW's Enhanced PROMIS by "trickery, fraud and deceit." The report finds that these actions against INSLAW were implemented through the Project Manager from the beginning of the contract and under the direction of high-level Justice Department officials. The evidence presented in the report demonstrates that high-level Department officials deliberately ignored INSLAW's proprietary rights and misappropriated its PROMIS software for use at locations not covered under contract with the company. Justice then proceeded to challenge INSLAW's claims in court even though its own internal deliberations had concluded that these claims were valid and that the Department would most likely lose in court on this issue.

According to the report, the second phase of the Committee's investigation concentrated on the allegations that high-level officials at the Department of Justice conspired to drive INSLAW into insolvency and steal PROMIS. In this regard, the report states that several individuals testified under oath that INSLAW's PROMIS software was stolen and distributed internationally in order to provide financial gain to associates of Justice Department officials and to further intelligence and foreign policy objectives of the United States. Additional corroborating evidence was uncovered by the Committee which substantiated to varying degrees the information provided by these individuals.

(Chairman) Brooks stated, "Although (the Department of Justice was) faced with a growing body of evidence that serious wrongdoing had occurred which reached to the highest levels of the Department, both Attorney General Meese and Thornburgh ignored these findings of two Federal courts and refused to seek the appointment of an Independent Counsel."


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Excerpt from:

"Summer Of the Octopus"

WASHINGTON POST
by Mary McGrory
August 18, 1991


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(Danny Casolaro) had been investigating the Inslaw case, a tangled affair of government perfidy and international intrigue that has been in litigation since 1983. In his explorations, he found out about possibly related scandals -- BCCI, S&Ls, Iran-contra, the "October surprise" -- but until two weeks ago, he had found nothing about Inslaw. Then, he joyfully told friends, he hit bingo. One more interview and the case was cracked.
Suicides do not tell their intimates within days of taking the hemlock that they are "ecstatic" or "euphoric." Casolaro did. Nor do they attend family birthday parties, as Danny Casolaro was planning to do hours before he died. The last known call was to his mother in Fairfax (VA). He told her he was on Interstate 81 in Pennsylvania. He would be late, but he was headed home. A manic-depressive might then kill himself. Nobody ever suggested Danny Casolaro was one.

Although the case involves the alleged theft of computer software by the Justice Department in the time of Ed Meese, Thornburgh took it to his bosom. Bill Hamilton, a perfectly nice midwesterner who owned a Washington firm called Inslaw, had invented Promis, a software especially adapted to crime statistics, which he sold to Justice. The second year, Justice stopped making payments. Hamilton and his wife, Nancy, believe that cronies of Meese were given the franchise to sell around the world. Promis has turned up in Canada and Pakistan. Thelink with the "October surprise" is Earl Brian, a former Reagan political associate who allegedly paid off Iranians to keep the hostages until after the 1980 election -- and allegedly was paid off himself with huge profits from Promis.


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Excerpt from:

"The Inslaw Octopus"

by Richard L. Fricker
WIRED

But the real power of PROMIS, according to Hamilton, is that with a staggering 570,000 lines of computer code, PROMIS can integrate innumerable databases without requiring any reprogramming. In essence, PROMIS can turn blind data into information. And anyone in government will tell you that information, when wielded with finesse, begets power. Converted to use by intelligence agencies, as has been alleged in interviews by ex-CIA and Israeli Mossad agents, PROMIS can be a powerful tracking device capable of monitoring intelligence operations, agents and targets, instead of legal cases.

Apparently, Israel was not the only country interested in using PROMIS for internal security purposes, Lt. Col. Oliver North also may have been using the program. According to several intelligence community sources, PROMIS was in use at a 6,100 square-foot command center built on the sixth floor of the Justice Department. According to both a contractor who helped design the center and information disclosed during the Iran-contra hearings, Oliver North had a similar, but smaller, White House operations room that was connected by computer link to the DOJ's command center,

Using the computers in the command center, North tracked dissidents and potential troublemakers within the United States as part of a domestic emergency preparedness program, commissioned under Reagan's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), according to sources and published reports. Using PROMIS, sources point out, North could have drawn up lists of anyone ever arrested for a political protest, for example, or anyone who had ever refused to pay their taxes. Compared to PROMIS, Richard Nixon's enemies lists or Sen. Joe McCarthy's blacklist look downright crude. The operation was so sensitive that when Rep. Jack Brooks asked North about it during the Iran-contra hearings, the hearing was immediately suspended pending an executive (secret) conference. When the hearings were reconvened, the issue of North's FEMA dealings was dropped.

Freelance reporter Danny Casolaro spent the last few years of his life investigating a pattern which he called "The Octopus." According to Casolaro, Inslaw was only part of a greater story of how intelligence agencies, the Department of Justice and even the mob had subverted the government and its various functions for their own profit.


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Excerpt from:

"The Dirtiest Bank of All"

by Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne
TIME
July 29, 1991

The more conventional departments of B.C.C.I. (Bank of Credit and Commerce International) handled such services as laundering money for the drug trade and helping dictators loot their national treasuries. The black network, which is still functioning, operates a lucrative arms-trade business and transports drugs and gold. According to investigators and participants in those operations, it often works with Western and Middle Eastern intelligence agencies. The strange and still murky ties between B.C.C.I. and the intelligence agencies of several countries are so pervasive that even the White House has become entangled. As TIME reported earlier this month, the National Security Council used B.C.C.I. to funnel money for the Iran-contra deals, and the CIA maintained accounts in B.C.C.I. for covert operations. Moreover, investigators have told TIME that the Defense Intelligence Agency has maintained a slush-fund account with B.C.C.I. apparently to pay for clandestine activities.
But the CIA may have used B.C.C.I. as more than an undercover banker: U.S. agents collaborated with the black network in several operations, according to a B.C.C.I. black-network "officer" who is now a secret U.S. government witness. Sources have told investigators that B.C.C.I. worked closely with Israel's spy agencies and other Western intelligence groups as well, especially in arms deals.

---a bookstore for democracy ---

http://www.copi.com/articles/inslaw_primer.htm



Mr. Brooks was a great man and a great Democrat.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
48. Yes they can. The next phase is that they come in the front door with guns and demand
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:07 PM
Oct 2015

the files. We aren't there yet but I don't see anything to stop them.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
65. why should they
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:38 AM
Oct 2015

They have nothing but success doing things "extra-legally"

And no pesky trials and oversight. Macchiavelli couldn't be prouder of our secret rulers. Very few of the American People even know it happened.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
69. They will do it because they can. They are getting bolder and bolder and it's being normalized.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:50 AM
Oct 2015

Take this case as an example. I don't believe for a minute that they couldn't have accomplished the same results w/o calling so much attention to themselves. They want the public to know; mess with the CIA and look out. It's baby-steps into fascism.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
70. it's normalized, all right--but how can you be bolder
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

than assassinating a sitting president?

The worst has already happened. Now we just get more and more of the new normal.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
84. They've killed more than one. But the answer is the same. When the bullet has "property of the CIA"
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:35 PM
Oct 2015

written on it.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
51. That was the point of Wikileaks.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:33 PM
Oct 2015

The CIA is also supposed to reclassify most stuff after 40 years, but forget it. Doesn't work that way with things like this.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
26. & thumb drives
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:19 PM
Oct 2015

aren't all that expensive these days. Smart Phone Cam pics are really easy to take too. I have loads of cheap adapter cables that hook them directly to a thumb drive as well (This ex. for an Android based SPh)



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA76H2VX9088

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
8. Our tax dollars at work.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

Once the TPP passes the national security state will have carte blanche to enforce corporate rule world wide.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
17. "...elements that make this an unusual incident"
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

http://humanrights.washington.edu/uw-center-for-human-rights-reports-theft-of-data-equipment/

Sometime between October 15-18, the office of Dr. Angelina Godoy, Director of the University of Washington Center for Human Rights, was broken into by unknown parties. Her desktop computer was stolen, as well as a hard drive containing about 90% of the information relating to our research in El Salvador. While we have backups of this information, what worries us most is not what we have lost but what someone else may have gained: the files include sensitive details of personal testimonies and pending investigations.

This could, of course, be an act of common crime. But we are concerned because it is also possible this was an act of retaliation for our work. There are a few elements that make this an unusual incident. First, there was no sign of forcible entry; the office was searched but its contents were treated carefully and the door was locked upon exit, characteristics which do not fit the pattern of opportunistic campus theft. Prof. Godoy’s office was the only one targeted, although it is located midway down a hallway of offices, all containing computers. The hard drive has no real resale value, so there seems no reason to take it unless the intention was to extract information. Lastly, the timing of this incident—in the wake of the recent publicity around our freedom of information lawsuit against the CIA regarding information on a suspected perpetrator of grave human rights violations in El Salvador—invites doubt as to potential motives.



http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/files-for-lawsuit-against-cia-stolen-in-break-in-at-uw/

The break-in coincided with a campus visit by CIA Director John Brennan, who spoke Friday at a symposium at the UW law school. However, Norm Arkans, the UW’s associate vice president for media relations and communications, cautioned against “connecting those dots.”

Only Godoy’s office was targeted in the break-in and there was no sign of a forced entry, according to the news release. It appeared that the office was carefully searched rather than ransacked and the door was relocked upon exit, “characteristics that do not fit the pattern of an opportunistic campus theft,” the release says.

Finally, the timing of the theft — just weeks after publicity surrounding the CIA lawsuit — “invites doubt as to potential motives.”


Article in The Stranger about the lawsuit:
http://www.thestranger.com/news/feature/2015/10/07/22972128/the-university-of-washington-is-taking-the-cia-to-court


All coincidence, I'm sure.
 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
81. Cover for Action.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:41 AM
Oct 2015

Truth is; the CIA rarely breaks-in. It's much easier to recruit someone who has a key. They depend on people believing that the Constitution protects their private papers.

If you want them to find something, leave it on your desk.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
87. Yes, that definitely caught my eye.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015

That and the very specific targeting of that office, computer and hard drive.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
21. Maybe they did it to themselves
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

to draw attention...

See how that works?

--Yours Truly,
The Central Scrutinizer

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. Like a false flag event?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 04:42 PM
Oct 2015
GLADIO: THE SECRET U.S. WAR TO SUBVERT ITALIAN DEMOCRACY

by Arthur E. Rowse
Covert Action Quarterly, Dec. 1994

EXCERPT...

THE STRATEGY OF TENSION

Despite the failure of Plan Solo, the CIA and the Italian right had largely succeeded in creating the clandestine structures envisioned in Operation Demagnetize. Now the plotters turned their attention to a renewed offensive against the left.

To win intellectual support, the secret services set up a conference in Rome at the luxurious Parco dei Principi hotel in May 1965, for a "study" of "revolutionary war." The choice of words was inadvertently revealing, since the conveners and invited participants were planning a real revolution, not just warning of an imaginary communist takeover. The meeting was essentially a reunion of fascists, right-wing journalists, and military personnel. ``The strategy of tension'' that emerged was designed to disrupt normality with terror attacks in order to create chaos and provoke a frightened public into accepting still more authoritarian government. 20

Several "graduates" of this exercise had long records of anticommunist actions and would later be implicated in some of Italy's worst massacres. One was journalist and secret agent Guido Giannettini. Four years earlier, he had conducted a seminar at the U.S. Naval Academy on "The Techniques and Prospects of a Coup d'Etat in Europe." Another was notorious fascist Stefano Delle Chiaie, who had reportedly been recruited as a secret agent in 1960. He had organized his own armed band known as Avanguardia Nationale (AN), whose members had begun training in terror tactics in preparation for Plan Solo. 21

General De Lorenzo, whose SIFAR had now become SID, soon enlisted these and other confidants in a new Gladio project. They planned to create a secret parallel force alongside sensitive government offices to neutralize subversive elements not yet ``purified.'' Known as the Parallel SID, its tentacles reached into nearly every key institution of the Italian state. Gen.Vito Miceli, who later headed SID, said he set up the separate structure "at the request of the Americans and NATO." 22

SNIP...

THE BOLOGNA TRAIN STATION BOMBING

A huge explosion at the Bologna train station two years after Moro's death may have whitened the hair of many Italians - not just for the grisly toll of 85 killed and more than 200 injured - but for the official inaction that followed. Although the investigating magistrates suspected neofascists, they were unable to issue credible arrest warrants for more than two years because of false data from the secret services. By that time, all but one of the five chief suspects, two of whom had ties to SID, had skipped the country. 74 The T4 explosive found at the scene matched the Gladio material used in Brescia, Peteano and other bombings, according to expert testimony before Judge Mastelloni. 75

In the trial, the judges cited the "strategy of tension and its ties to 'foreign powers.'" They also found the secret military and civilian structure tied into neofascist groups, P-2, and the secret services. 76 In short, they found the CIA and Gladio.

But their efforts to exact justice for the Bologna bombing came to nothing when, in 1990, the court of appeals acquitted all the alleged "brains." P-2 head Gelli went free, as did two secret service chiefs whose perjury convictions were overturned. Four gladiators convicted of participating in an armed group also won appeals. That left Peteano as the only major bombing case with a conviction of the actual bomber, thanks to Vinciguerra's confession.

The sorry judicial record in these monstrous crimes showed how completely the Gladio network enveloped the army, police, secret services and the top courts. Thanks to P-2, with its 963 well-placed brothers, 77 the collusion also extended into the top levels of media and business.

CONTINUED...

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/gladio.html

That is a right wing thing to do.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
22. Oh, My...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:37 PM
Oct 2015

do you mean that those nice people working in the CIA might have done something not quit legal? Heavenly days!! Why would any one pick on these international drug dealers?

Er, possibly sarcasm...

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
23. Something doesn't seem right about this story
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:38 PM
Oct 2015

"The specific documents in question that the group was filing the lawsuit over were also stolen from the office." If they already have the declassified documents, why file a FOIA request?

"Data and equipment were stolen from the office...". Sounds like a not-uncommon burglary to me. Either that, or the center is looking for some attention. No better way to do that than claim the CIA is behind a domestic break-in.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
63. Fortunately...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015


...most of the USA thinks like you. Your world of mirrors should last you into old age where you'll be able to blame senility for your state of confusion.



.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
75. Fortunately...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

most of the USA with experience in the real world don't unquestioningly swallow every conspiracy theory flogged by those lacking critical thinking skills.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. Maybe the documents were from an unofficial source and therefore
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:55 PM
Oct 2015

could not be filed in court????

Just an idea.

Who other than the CIA would have been interested in burglarizing the place?

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
47. I doubt the CIA had any interest in burglarizing the place
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:38 PM
Oct 2015

They aren't dummies.

IMO it's more probably a clumsy attempt to manufacture publicity, or someone with regular access to the building swiping the equipment to sell on eBay.

Not every suspicious event is the result of a government conspiracy.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
54. The CIA would not be the only group or the only person interested
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:06 PM
Oct 2015

in derailing this lawsuit.

Clearly, the documents can be replaced, so the thief could be someone thinking he could prevent the trial for some personal or organizational reason.

It is naive to think you can prevent a lawsuit by stealing documents.

It's some group related to the University of Washington so although it could be just an attempt to manufacture publicity, that's not in my view, the most likely motivation. Selling on e-Bay?? Wouldn't that make the mystery easy to solve? Kind of stupid, that.

The CIA is not the only group or person who might want to prevent this case.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. I didn't realize "that most CIA documents are exempt from FOIA" Center for Human rights,
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:44 PM
Oct 2015

Center for Human Rights, should make the stolen files public immediately to protect their witnesses, who are now in immediate danger.

Whoever those people are they will not last until some court date years in the future.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
72. by determination, not by law. They just refuse, and journalists sue
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:03 AM
Oct 2015

and decades pass while witnesses die and evidence deteriorates. FOIA was a decent tool for about ten years, then they figured out how to subvert it indefinitely.

Practically everything has been "sequestered" out of democratic oversight in the last 50 years…And no way to address that!

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
29. "and it is suspected that the CIA may have had something to do with the break-in"
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

No?!? Really? You don't say...

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
30. America is SUPPOSED to be a democracy...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

... so why does the CIA HATE democracy in other countries? Iran, Chile, Argentina, El Salvador; the list of countries where they have deposed or murdered democratically elected governments seems to go on forever. They ALWAYS replace those governments with ruthless dictatorships that supposedly support America's "National Interests." It doesn't take too much digging to discover that those "interests" are invariably corporate interests that rarely, if ever, are in the best interests of the American people.

Just from the little we are allowed to know, the record shows that the CIA's actions have done more to damage America's standing around the world than any other agency. And the long-term ramifications of their actions, like the current tensions with Iran, have been even more destructive.

Kennedy reportedly considered disbanding the CIA after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. He never got the chance to follow up on that idea, though. Wonder why...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
41. It all goes back to the Dulles Brothers,
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:25 PM
Oct 2015

who did not bother concealing their Nazi sympathies as the principal directors of the era's most powerful corporate law firm,Sullivan & Cromwell.

Neither was at all happy that FDR had the US fighting Hitler. Not in the least.

More or less everything evil America has done in the last 65 years can be traced back to Allen and John Foster Dulles, the Founding Fathers of the Deep State.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
52. Amen.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:50 PM
Oct 2015

It was Allen Dulles that pulled Prescott Bush's fat out of the fire for doing clandestine banking for the Nazis through a Dutch branch of his Union Bank (double-check name?) during WW II.

The Nazis finally won. Just look at Wall Street and its collusion with Big Government. Or you can just wait for the TPP for final confirmation.

The fascists just wear Armani now, instead of flamboyant uniforms.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
58. Brudda, you got that SO right.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:01 AM
Oct 2015

The oligarchs of the day were much more than a bit fond of the Austrian corporal. They saw him as the face of the future.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
60. They are in the interests of shareholders.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:47 AM
Oct 2015

So they are in the best interest of each of their individual owners.

Some labor for democracy for all people, some just for themselves.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
71. that's because you believe the US is a democracy of good will and fair intentions
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

as we were taught.

The folks who actually rule us don't want anything more than the US to be the strongest military force in the world and for everybody to be terrified of us and under our thumb. Democracy for US citizens doersn't even make the list of "by any means necessary." Democracy is an obstacle to their goals, and they think they finally have it neutralized. Obama proved it when he couldn't close Guantanamo or get out of Afghanistan.

Vote all you want…
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-won-change/jVSkXrENQlu8vNcBfMn9sL/story.html?event=event25

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
73. No, I'm too old and seen too much to be that naive...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:15 AM
Oct 2015

... I was young when Eisenhower warned of the Military/Industrial Complex, but not too young to know what it meant.

1norcal

(55 posts)
31. Thanks Octafish
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

Thanks Octafish, keep up the good work... Too, have you read "The Devil's Chessboard" by David Talbot? I would love to hear your opinion of it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
88. Just reserved a copy.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:38 PM
Oct 2015
You Think the NSA Is Bad? Meet Former CIA Director Allen Dulles.

David Talbot talks with Mother Jones about the book we talked about on DU in 2013:



You Think the NSA Is Bad? Meet Former CIA Director Allen Dulles.

In a new book, David Talbot makes the case that the CIA head under Eisenhower and Kennedy may have been a psychopath.

—By Aaron Wiener
MotherJones | Sat Oct. 10, 2015

"What follows," David Talbot boasts in the prologue to his new book The Devil's Chessboard, "is an espionage adventure that is far more action-packed and momentous than any spy tale with which readers are familiar." Talbot, the founder of Salon.com and author of the Kennedy clan study Brothers, doesn't deal in subtlety in his biography of Allen Dulles, the CIA director under presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy, the younger brother of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, and the architect of a secretive national security apparatus that functioned as essentially an autonomous branch of government. Talbot offers a portrait of a black-and-white Cold War-era world full of spy games and nuclear brinkmanship, in which everyone is either a good guy or a bad guy. Dulles—who deceived American elected leaders and overthrew foreign ones, who backed ex-Nazis and thwarted left-leaning democrats—falls firmly in the latter camp.

Mother Jones chatted with Talbot about the reporting that went into his 704-page doorstop, the controversy he invited with his discussion of Kennedy-assassination conspiracy theories, and the parallels he sees in today's government intelligence overreach.

SNIP...

MJ: Is that why you chose not to include much about Dulles' childhood or his internal strife or the other types of things that tend to dominate biographies?

DT: I focused on those elements that I thought were important to understanding him. I thought other books covered that ground fairly well before me. But what they left out was the interesting nuances and shadow aspects of Dulles's biography. I think that you can make a case, although I didn't explicitly say this in the book, for Allen Dulles being a psychopath.

They've done studies of people in power, and they all have to be, to some extent, on the spectrum. You have to be unfeeling to a certain extent to send people to their death in war and take the kind of actions that men and women in power routinely have to take. But with Dulles, I think he went to the next step. His own wife and mistress called him "the Shark." His favorite word was whether you were "useful" to him or not. And this went for people he was sleeping with or people he was manipulating in espionage or so on. He was the kind of man that could cold-bloodedly, again and again, send people to their death, including people he was familiar with and supposedly fond of.

There's a thread there between people like Dulles up through Dick Cheney and [Donald] Rumsfeld—who was sitting at Dulles's knee at one point. I was fascinated to find that correspondence between a young Congressman Rumsfeld and Allen Dulles, who he was looking to for wisdom and guidance as a young politician.

MJ: I'm interested to hear you mention Rumsfeld. Do you think the Bush years compared in ruthlessness or secrecy to what was going on under Dulles?

DT: Definitely. That same kind of dynamic was revived or in some ways expanded after 9/11 by the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld administration. Those guys very much were in keeping with the sort of Dulles ethic, that of complete ruthlessness. It's this feeling of unaccountability, that democratic sanctions and regulations don't make sense in today's ruthless world.

CONTINUED...

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/book-review-devils-chessboard-david-talbot

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
36. Time to go back.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:59 PM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Back to the days of microfiche and microdots, and other formats that can't be electronically erased, with multiple copies in incongruous safe places.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
39. "MAY have had something to do with the burglary."
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:18 PM
Oct 2015

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.

It's as certain as the moon revolves around the earth and the earth around the sun.

2naSalit

(86,537 posts)
49. I am just shocked, shocked, I tell you!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:25 PM
Oct 2015

This sh*tstorm has been oozing down the sewer pipe for some time.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
56. I have my doubts that this is what they think it is
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:46 AM
Oct 2015

The CIA wouldn't need to steal the actual computer. If they had physical access to the computer, they could easily have installed software to steal the data on the computer.

This is way too Keystone Cops for the CIA. They would have been in and out without anybody noticing and have access on an on-going basis.

Maybe somebody from El Salvador, but even that violates Occam's Razor. I think the most likely culprit was an opportunistic local who found an unlocked door or got a cleaning/maintenance person to let them in. Saying that the perpetrator passed other computers doesn't give an indication as to how those computers were secured. If they were better secured, then it would make sense they didn't steal those.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
66. the second goal is to terrorize the subject
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:40 AM
Oct 2015

They couldn't just do it secretly--they probably did all that already.

They want to scare them into dropping the suit.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
57. Just wait long enough and they'll admit to coups and war crimes...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:58 AM
Oct 2015
CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup
US officials have previously expressed regret about the coup but have fallen short of issuing an official apology. The British government has never acknowledged its role.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-role-1953-iranian-coup

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
79. "Some analysts"
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:13 AM
Oct 2015

"Some analysts argue that Mosaddeq failed to compromise with the west and the coup took place against the backdrop of communism fears in Iran."

As if other countries have an obligation to "compromise" over their own resources with Western powers; and if they don't, they risk having their sovereignty violated, or even being invaded and destroyed. The exceptionalist ideology through which many Westerners analyze the world, couldn't be more obvious.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
91. BFEE forever gains, thanks to official secrecy.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

Ideas like "Justice," "Liberty" and "Democracy" may be missing from humanity's thoughts in the future if we don't wake the heck up now.



Surveillance and Scandal

Time-Tested Weapons for U.S. Global Power

By Alfred McCoy
Tomgram, Jan. 19, 2014

For more than six months, Edward Snowden’s revelations about the National Security Agency (NSA) have been pouring out from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Guardian, Germany’s Der Spiegel, and Brazil’s O Globo, among other places. Yet no one has pointed out the combination of factors that made the NSA’s expanding programs to monitor the world seem like such a slam-dunk development in Washington. The answer is remarkably simple. For an imperial power losing its economic grip on the planet and heading into more austere times, the NSA’s latest technological breakthroughs look like a bargain basement deal when it comes to projecting power and keeping subordinate allies in line -- like, in fact, the steal of the century. Even when disaster turned out to be attached to them, the NSA’s surveillance programs have come with such a discounted price tag that no Washington elite was going to reject them.

For well over a century, from the pacification of the Philippines in 1898 to trade negotiations with the European Union today, surveillance and its kissing cousins, scandal and scurrilous information, have been key weapons in Washington’s search for global dominion. Not surprisingly, in a post-9/11 bipartisan exercise of executive power, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have presided over building the NSA step by secret step into a digital panopticon designed to monitor the communications of every American and foreign leaders worldwide.

What exactly was the aim of such an unprecedented program of massive domestic and planetary spying, which clearly carried the risk of controversy at home and abroad? Here, an awareness of the more than century-long history of U.S. surveillance can guide us through the billions of bytes swept up by the NSA to the strategic significance of such a program for the planet’s last superpower. What the past reveals is a long-term relationship between American state surveillance and political scandal that helps illuminate the unacknowledged reason why the NSA monitors America’s closest allies.

[font color="green"]Not only does such surveillance help gain intelligence advantageous to U.S. diplomacy, trade relations, and war-making, but it also scoops up intimate information that can provide leverage -- akin to blackmail -- in sensitive global dealings and negotiations of every sort. The NSA’s global panopticon thus fulfills an ancient dream of empire. With a few computer key strokes, the agency has solved the problem that has bedeviled world powers since at least the time of Caesar Augustus: how to control unruly local leaders, who are the foundation for imperial rule, by ferreting out crucial, often scurrilous, information to make them more malleable.[/font color]

A Cost-Savings Bonanza With a Downside

Once upon a time, such surveillance was both expensive and labor intensive. Today, however, unlike the U.S. Army’s shoe-leather surveillance during World War I or the FBI’s break-ins and phone bugs in the Cold War years, the NSA can monitor the entire world and its leaders with only 100-plus probes into the Internet’s fiber optic cables.

This new technology is both omniscient and omnipresent beyond anything those lacking top-secret clearance could have imagined before the Edward Snowden revelations began. Not only is it unimaginably pervasive, but NSA surveillance is also a particularly cost-effective strategy compared to just about any other form of global power projection. And better yet, it fulfills the greatest imperial dream of all: to be omniscient not just for a few islands, as in the Philippines a century ago, or a couple of countries, as in the Cold War era, but on a truly global scale.

CONTINUED...

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175795/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy,_it's_about_blackmail,_not_national_security/


Why does this matter, when my house is about to get foreclosed because my job got offshored? It's tied in, when Wall Street and War Inc. are where the really Big Bucks go to get made. For We the People are the ones who ALWAYS get "the haircut."

Sometimes a fortune rests on a mere scrap of information, like in a "Fistful of Dollars."





CIA moonlights in corporate world

In the midst of two wars and the fight against Al Qaeda, the CIA is offering operatives a chance to peddle their expertise to private companies on the side — a policy that gives financial firms and hedge funds access to the nation’s top-level intelligence talent, POLITICO has learned.

In one case, these active-duty officers moonlighted at a hedge-fund consulting firm that wanted to tap their expertise in “deception detection,” the highly specialized art of telling when executives may be lying based on clues in a conversation.

The never-before-revealed policy comes to light as the CIA and other intelligence agencies are once again under fire for failing to “connect the dots,” this time in the Christmas Day bombing plot on Northwest Flight 253.

SNIP...

But the close ties between active-duty and retired CIA officers at one consulting company show the degree to which CIA-style intelligence gathering techniques have been employed by hedge funds and financial institutions in the global economy.

The firm is called Business Intelligence Advisors, and it is based in Boston. BIA was founded and is staffed by a number of retired CIA officers, and it specializes in the arcane field of “deception detection.” BIA’s clients have included Goldman Sachs and the enormous hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors, according to spokesmen for both firms.

CONTINUED...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32290.html#ixzz0eIFPhHBh





Then there's the signature tradition of playing both sides off the middle, like selling rifles to both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I, or the bounty hunters in "For a Few Dollars More" getting one inside to work out.



Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

SNIP...

Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html





Then, there's Booz Allen, NSA's go-to private spyhaus, vacuums and filters the right stuff for Carlyle Group, a buy-partisan business which always seems to know where and what to bomb and make a buck, but the lines between sides turned out be fuzzy and amorphous nebula-like -- like in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."



The Knights of the Revolving Door

When War is Swell: the Carlyle Group and the Middle East at War

by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, Weekend Edition September 6-8, 2013

Paris.

A couple of weeks ago, in a dress rehearsal for her next presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton, the doyenne of humanitarian interventionism, made a pit-stop at the Carlyle Group to brief former luminaries of the imperial war rooms about her shoot-first-don’t-ask-questions foreign policy.

For those of you who have put the playbill of the Bush administration into a time capsule and buried it beneath the compost bin, the Carlyle Group is essentially a hedge fund for war-making and high tech espionage. They are the people who brought you the Iraq war and all those intrusive niceties of Homeland Security. Call them the Knights of the Revolving Door, many of Carlyle’s executives and investors having spent decades in the Pentagon, the CIA or the State Department, before cashing in for more lucrative careers as war profiteers. They are now licking their chops at the prospect for an all-out war against Syria, no doubt hoping that the conflagration will soon spread to Lebanon, Jordan and, the big prize, Iran.

For a refresher course on the sprawling tentacles of the Carlyle Group, here’s an essay that first appeared in CounterPunch’s print edition in 2004. Sadly, not much has changed in the intervening years, except these feted souls have gotten much, much richer. – JSC

Across all fronts, Bush’s war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 1000, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Ba’athists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.

Still not all of the president’s men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtel’s triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.

Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his son’s war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. They’ve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you don’t need to hire lobbyists..

Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesn’t negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyle’s behalf.

One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osama’s half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyle’s accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/when-war-is-swell-the-carlyle-group-and-the-middle-east-at-war/



Sorry to cut and paste, but the subject needs mention. The reality is that underneath what shows for public navigators is one enormous iceberg made from blood-red ice, invisible to the proles and serfs who are doing their best to keep afloat in a frozen sea of austerity, endless war and debt servitude in what are, by far, the wealthiest times in human history -- conditions which CONTINUE to benefit the 0.001 percent.

Hotler

(11,416 posts)
76. Isn't that what happened to Michael Rupport (spelling?) author of
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:50 AM
Oct 2015

"Peak Oil" and was involved in outing the CIA for their cocaine trafficing in L.A? Wasn't he being followed, watch and getting strange phone calls and then his office was broken into and his computer and stuff was stolen?

librechik

(30,674 posts)
77. this is so obviously and memorably what the CIA/etc does, it's modus operandus
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:09 AM
Oct 2015

if you will. They should really license it and make a few extra bucks when actual burglaries happen.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
86. we ought to have a pinned thread somewhere on DU...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:59 PM
Oct 2015

...memorializing the reporters who have lost their lives and/or livelihoods because of the secret government and the black ops.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
83. terrorists
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:17 PM
Oct 2015

often try and rig the justice system, just like the mafia... the people involved are lucky that all that happened was a few things got stolen... they could have easily been murdered.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
89. Secret Government Benefits The Overclass
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:49 PM
Oct 2015
THE ORIGINS OF THE OVERCLASS

by Steve Kangas

The wealthy have always used many methods to accumulate wealth, but it was not until the mid-1970s that these methods coalesced into a superbly organized, cohesive and efficient machine. After 1975, it became greater than the sum of its parts, a smooth flowing organization of advocacy groups, lobbyists, think tanks, conservative foundations, and PR firms that hurtled the richest 1 percent into the stratosphere.

The origins of this machine, interestingly enough, can be traced back to the CIA. This is not to say the machine is a formal CIA operation, complete with code name and signed documents. (Although such evidence may yet surface — and previously unthinkable domestic operations such as MK-ULTRA, CHAOS and MOCKINGBIRD show this to be a distinct possibility.) But what we do know already indicts the CIA strongly enough. Its principle creators were Irving Kristol, Paul Weyrich, William Simon, Richard Mellon Scaife, Frank Shakespeare, William F. Buckley, Jr., the Rockefeller family, and more. Almost all the machine's creators had CIA backgrounds.

SNIP...

How did this alliance start? The CIA has always recruited the nation’s elite: millionaire businessmen, Wall Street brokers, members of the national news media, and Ivy League scholars. During World War II, General "Wild Bill" Donovan became chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA. Donovan recruited so exclusively from the nation’s rich and powerful that members eventually came to joke that "OSS" stood for "Oh, so social!"

SNIP...

Historically, the CIA and society’s elite have been one and the same people. This means that their interests and goals are one and the same as well. Perhaps the most frequent description of the intelligence community is the "old boy network," where members socialize, talk shop, conduct business and tap each other for favors well outside the formal halls of government.

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http://www.american-buddha.com/illum.originsofoverclass.htm

Capitalism's Invisible Army also employs a very generous amount of nepotism to keep the old lines in service. It's a legacy thing.

PS: Thanks, EdwardBernays! As you of all DUers know, national news media with integrity should work to light a fire under the Ownership Class and their servants in government. Instead, they protect tje privileged.
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