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Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:29 AM Oct 2015

YouTube Will Completely Remove Videos Of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal

Told ya.

Source: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/21/an-offer-creators-cant-refuse/#.ycdx4m:qMYa

YouTube made its top video creators an offer they literally couldn’t refuse, or they’d have their content disappear. Today YouTube confirmed that any “partner” creator who earns a cut of ad revenue but doesn’t agree to sign its revenue share deal for its new YouTube Red $9.99 ad-free subscription will have their videos hidden from public view on both the ad-supported and ad-free tiers. That includes videos by popular comedians, musicians, game commentators, and...
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YouTube Will Completely Remove Videos Of Creators Who Don’t Sign Its Red Subscription Deal (Original Post) Shankapotomus Oct 2015 OP
Sounds like there needs to be an alternative. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #1
Any amount of money Shankapotomus Oct 2015 #2
they were off last week and didn't have any new shows. corkhead Oct 2015 #3
my bad (nt) Shankapotomus Oct 2015 #5
An alternative will pop up. People will go elsewhere. Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #4
There's a story about a goose that laid a golden egg. . . . nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #6
Vid.me seems to dislike advertising Shankapotomus Oct 2015 #7
Help me out here: Orrex Oct 2015 #8
They were getting ad revenue already. Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #9
I still don't see the issue. Orrex Oct 2015 #10
Do you mean revenue like merchandise and outside deals with companies NYC Liberal Oct 2015 #11
I wonder what the next host might be. Orrex Oct 2015 #12
This is what happenes to good ideas artislife Oct 2015 #13

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
2. Any amount of money
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:46 AM
Oct 2015

this is why The Late Show with Stephen Colbert stopped posting clips to their YouTube channel 5 days ago. They are probably either still thinking about it or decided not to sign.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMtFAi84ehTSYSE9XoHefig/videos

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
7. Vid.me seems to dislike advertising
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:25 AM
Oct 2015

I just read their about page:

….we think traditional advertising is often invasive and lazy, and our goal is to come up with better ways of keeping on the lights."

https://vid.me/about

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
8. Help me out here:
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:27 AM
Oct 2015

If YouTube is the means by which these "content creators" earn money, why shouldn't YouTube receive a percentage of that revenue? The "content creators" are profiting in part because of YouTube's service and resources, after all.

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
10. I still don't see the issue.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

YouTube is providing the venue by which these "content providers" are making money from ad revenue. Was YouTube getting a piece of that revenue, or only from the ads that YouTube itself was hosting directly?

I'm the admin/owner of another discussion forum, the host of which runs a whole bunch of different ads. The agreement specifically forbids me to run ads to generate revenue for myself. Is that different from what YouTube is doing?

YouTube is the host venue. If they were running a comic book convention, a vendor couldn't simply set up shop and make money there without paying a site fee, and the fee is much smaller than it would cost the vendor to host a venue on his/her own. How does that differ from the service that YouTube provides?

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
11. Do you mean revenue like merchandise and outside deals with companies
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

to promote some product/brand in videos?

If so, I see what you're saying and I don't think Google/YouTube was getting a cut of that. (Partners ARE paying a "site fee" in the ad revenue.)

This is about making their premium service viable. If the top content creators aren't on YouTube Red, then users won't sign up for it.

And the end of the day, Google may have every right to demand they participate, but a lot of those content creators may just decide to go elsewhere. Same goes for users.

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
12. I wonder what the next host might be.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:57 AM
Oct 2015

I can name maybe a dozen vid hosters off the top of my head, but all of them together don't have 1/100th the power or reach of YouTube.

It seems likely that the Google/YouTube monster would simply devour any serious competitor, in the grand tradition of capitalism. I don't know how another host could even establish a net presence unless it piggybacks off of an existing giant.

As always, the big money holds the best 51 cards and lets us all play with the rest.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
13. This is what happenes to good ideas
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

and then Big Money buys it up and thinks of ways to make even bigger money..


The ruin a lot, but the public has ideas and they will keep creating new things.

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