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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:31 PM Oct 2015

Pardon the mess: Jeb! Bush campaign meltdown in progress. (pic hvy)

From the weekend:



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Jeb Bush Tied To Rum Lobby In Missing Emails, October 2, 2015 More about Jeb!'s missing emails here, and here.



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D.C. “Not Part of My DNA,” Says Guy Whose Brother Had Parents’ Anniversary Party in White House



Jeb! Bush does not support paid family leave and does not want to talk about it



Jeb Bush Will ‘Never Forget’ That Astronaut Who Died That One Time



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Jeb Bush compares Donald Trump to Michael Moore



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Report Traces Jeb Bush’s Ties to Companies That Had Business With Florida



“Brutal, or whatever”: The disastrous Bush Doctrine lives on in Jeb’s campaign



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Jeb Bush tries to save his flailing campaign by cutting back on staffing—for the second time



Jeb Bush Slashing Staff and Payroll at Miami Headquarters



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The One Problem Mike Murphy Can’t Solve




Matt Lauer: Clearly, your resume and your pedigree are perfect for the job of president. <<<<Jeb, beaming and smiling: "THANKS, MATT!">>>> You come from a family with a long history of public service. Your dad was president. Your brother was president. You were a successful governor in a very important state of Florida. You know education, immigration, you are fluent in Spanish. And after deliberating for a long time, you decide to get in the race right now, and I don't mean to be funny about this, and after several months in the race, you are losing in the polls to the host of Celebrity Apprentice. How do you get your arms around that??

Bush: It doesn't matter to me in October, because when we get closer to February, people are gonna want to know, does he care about me? Does he have ideas to lift me up? Does he have the leadership skills to fix these things? That's always been the way it works in politics.

......


This guy is too insulated to know that he is being exposed as a fool. It's all about his "pedigree" you see, and it should be MORE than sufficient to get at anything he ever wants, to serve himself. Has worked thus far, right, Jeb!?

What a sad and cruel awakening for Jeb!, as reality slaps hard. The Bush Family name and connections will no longer be enough to maintain his and his family's place at the public trough.

Finally, America tastes freedom from this stifling curse.

Now, and with uncovered eyes, freedom to look back on our history and to learn from it, and to return our government into service for all the people, instead of for a wealthy, privileged few who have abused it to serve themselves.


The end of the Bush Legacy.

And, by God, we are witnessing it.








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Pardon the mess: Jeb! Bush campaign meltdown in progress. (pic hvy) (Original Post) seafan Oct 2015 OP
"The end of the Bush Legacy." Delphinus Oct 2015 #1
We'll be dealing with the Bush legacy bvf Oct 2015 #22
They won't go away, just out of sight, like cockroaches only nastier. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2015 #23
The end of the Bush error passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #30
This hideous Crime Family - America's Very Own Borgias - hifiguy Oct 2015 #35
We need to keep the younger Bushes from breeding. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #56
Well people, I have onecent Oct 2015 #2
K&R! Off to the Greatest you go... NO MORE BUSHES!!! N/T Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #3
Jeb!, the Problem is Your Brother... Herman4747 Oct 2015 #4
Isn't Jeb the guy who said he had better things to do than be president? Octafish Oct 2015 #5
Would you want that baffoon handling your wealth? TBF Oct 2015 #15
Seriesly. Octafish Oct 2015 #16
Ha! Liberal representation - TBF Oct 2015 #18
I doubt very much that any of GHWB's hifiguy Oct 2015 #36
Interestingly yesterday I was reading about George P's burglary charge - TBF Oct 2015 #46
Yep, "P" Bush (Jeb!'s son) is now Texas Land Commissioner, and already under fire. seafan Oct 2015 #50
until next decemeber, he is not dead DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #6
The new Comeback Kid? Retrograde Oct 2015 #24
Really RobinA Oct 2015 #52
Vote for a Bush. Lose your job. /nt SDjack Oct 2015 #7
I didn't think he could be worse than George. But he is as stupid but without the great rhett o rick Oct 2015 #8
Is there? Or are you thinking of the time Jeb ran into a storage closet to avoid... people? cui bono Oct 2015 #19
I am thinking of Neil who I believe made his millions from the Savings and Loan Scandal. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #42
This is the weirdest primary season I have ever seen. BlueStater Oct 2015 #9
Same here. I thought 2011-2 was wild with a new leader every month for the Repubs. LonePirate Oct 2015 #55
If no other Bush runs for president ever it won't be soon enough. Beacool Oct 2015 #10
'ol jebby thought this was gonna be a cakewalk....them bu$h folk ain't used to hard work spanone Oct 2015 #11
I really hope his campaign crashes and burns soon. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #12
No more bushes! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #13
Don't go away mad Jeb! - just go away. K&R nt TBF Oct 2015 #14
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy ornotna Oct 2015 #17
I thought all these bushitler bastards were moving to Paraguay. What ever happened with that. One lonestarnot Oct 2015 #20
there is a loose nose hair in photo 2 waddirum Oct 2015 #21
Can we change Jeb! To Jeb? ? Happyhippychick Oct 2015 #25
Jeb? Jeb? hahahahahahahahahaha jomin41 Oct 2015 #58
He should have listened to his mama. Vinca Oct 2015 #26
yep ... napkinz Oct 2015 #59
I disagree with Matt Lauer's premise, but spooky3 Oct 2015 #27
I hope Trump fuels the fire more by offering Jeb a position in his cabinet. C Moon Oct 2015 #28
Jebbie's new campaign song LongTomH Oct 2015 #29
I think this something we call ALL celebrate! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #31
They used to care about imagery... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #32
Killer smile. Octafish Oct 2015 #33
He looks in that pic like he is just about hifiguy Oct 2015 #37
If anybody should be born on probation... Octafish Oct 2015 #38
The Bush Crime Family: America's Very Own Borgias. hifiguy Oct 2015 #39
Killer post, Octafish. seafan Oct 2015 #40
Killer company, Compay. Octafish Oct 2015 #48
Otto Reich is still around? underpants Oct 2015 #53
here Jeb is pensive ... napkinz Oct 2015 #61
JebusEnoughFuggingBushes!! malaise Oct 2015 #34
I agree with him Egnever Oct 2015 #41
K&R! Stardust Oct 2015 #43
Jeb! How can we miss you if you won't go away? PNAC bites you in the butt. Stardust Oct 2015 #44
as long as thousands needlessly die in the MidEast each month, the Bush legacy lives on Bucky Oct 2015 #45
Pretty bad when you lose the high ground to a guy who wears an animal on his head. HughBeaumont Oct 2015 #47
This meltdown is one of the sweetest things I have ever witnessed in politics! MoonRiver Oct 2015 #49
It's amazing that he does not recognize that his brother and Lint Head Oct 2015 #51
It should be a surprise to nobody. 35+ years of stagnant wages and draining every last crumb of Hugin Oct 2015 #54
we've seen this before ... napkinz Oct 2015 #57
he's experiencing the blues ... or is it the blahs? napkinz Oct 2015 #60
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
35. This hideous Crime Family - America's Very Own Borgias -
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:33 PM
Oct 2015

should be extirpated root and branch from the public life of this nation they have damaged so grievously.

In perpetuity.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
56. We need to keep the younger Bushes from breeding.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:00 PM
Oct 2015

Put something in their water supply, maybe? Mandatory spaying and neutering of anyone who has a lot of Poppy & Babs' DNA?

onecent

(6,096 posts)
2. Well people, I have
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:39 PM
Oct 2015

been able to see who the favorite was now for the last 15 years.
JeB IS NOT IT.

THE FAVORITE ALREADY FUCKED US ALL FOR ETERNITY

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Isn't Jeb the guy who said he had better things to do than be president?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

Must be a big job. UBS is hiring in wealth management.

TBF

(32,051 posts)
15. Would you want that baffoon handling your wealth?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:35 PM
Oct 2015

Or even your 401K account? I sure wouldn't! Or his stalker son either ...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. Seriesly.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:59 PM
Oct 2015

Pure Buy-Partisanship at UBS, where, since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, they've specialized in all kinds of Wealth Management led by former Senator and now Vice Chairman Phil Gramm and former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W Bush.

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Eye opening news that is missed by Corporate McPravda.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. I doubt very much that any of GHWB's
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:35 PM
Oct 2015

cretinous and crooked spawn could successfully organize a two-car funeral on a one-way street, even if you spotted them the goddam hearse. They'd find some way to FUBAR it beyond salvage.

TBF

(32,051 posts)
46. Interestingly yesterday I was reading about George P's burglary charge -
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:01 AM
Oct 2015

I had only read about his stalking charges previously (this dolt is only 35 ... he's gotten an early start)

seafan

(9,387 posts)
50. Yep, "P" Bush (Jeb!'s son) is now Texas Land Commissioner, and already under fire.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:28 PM
Oct 2015

George P. Bush (Erich Schlegel/Getty Images)

October 20, 2015


Last week, Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush responded to criticism from his predecessor that he had replaced nonpartisan bureaucrats at the General Land Office with loyalists by explaining that many of the employees that he inherited in January were making too much money. "We're going to try our best to make it more objective, more fair, based about not your relationships, but based upon what you bring to the table," he said of his office, which oversees 13 million acres of Texas public lands, including leasing mineral rights to oil and gas companies. On Monday, the Houston Chronicle reported that a full 76.4 percent of Bush's new employees were hired without advertising the jobs, in probable violation of state law.

Bush, a son of Republican presidential hopeful Jeb Bush, isn't alone. Seven top Texas officials elected in 2014 — including Bush, Gov. Greg Abbott (R), and Attorney General Ken Paxton — have hired 146 people with personal or political connections, along with 33 other people also given jobs without any competition, according to the Chronicle's Brian M. Rosenthal. Those 179 unadvertised jobs, prohibited under a 1991 law, represent 15.4 percent of the hires of these seven officials over the past 11 months, but Bush is bending the curve, handing out 55 of 72 jobs without competition, including creating a "special counsel" position for law school friend Hector Valle, 37. Another new hire, his chief of staff, was an aide to his uncle, George W. Bush.

On Monday, Bush defended his decision to hand-pick his staff without advertising the jobs, explaining that he "needed to move quickly because I got sworn in Jan. 2 and the legislative session began virtually the week after.... I needed to bring in people that I trust." After Rosenthal noted that Bush filled 14 of those unadvertised jobs in July, Bush said "there's been a thought process behind each selection." The hires are "not just bringing in friends and acquaintances," he added. "I want to bring in the best people." Going forward, though, "every single position that will be open will be offered to the public," Bush told the Chronicle. "There will be an open selection process." ---- Peter Weber



This family just keeps right on taking for themselves and their friends, don't they?

Just learnin' at the knees of Daddy, Uncle W and Granddaddy HW.

Time to nip this in the bud.





DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
6. until next decemeber, he is not dead
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

because he has the connections to make sure he will last like some cockroach that has been nuked.

However, if this is true, then we will owe Donald Trump for knocking out Jeb and Scott, the two candidates who were the absolute deadliest for democracy.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
24. The new Comeback Kid?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:22 PM
Oct 2015

I wouldn't be surprised if the Powers That Be bring him back in May or June after the rest of the contingent self-destructs. Remember that Jeb! lost his first campaign for governor of Florida only to go on to win two further elections. There's no way the GOP is going to go with Trump or Carson - or even Fiorina. The only potential candidates they have within commuting distance of sanity are Pataki and Kasich, neither of whom I think has a chance. So either they'll bring back Mitt, or push Bush at the last minute.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
52. Really
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

If it's not Bush I don't know who it would be, unless someone else comes out of the woodwork. It has to be somebody who can fake sanity long enough to get elected so he/she can soak up the not-Hillary vote amongst independents. My money's still on Jeb! He's gotta find new staff, though.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. I didn't think he could be worse than George. But he is as stupid but without the great
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:12 PM
Oct 2015

stupid smile. Jeb looks confused all the time. Isn't there another brother that they keep locked in a closet?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
19. Is there? Or are you thinking of the time Jeb ran into a storage closet to avoid... people?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:07 PM
Oct 2015


http://www.post-gazette.com/neighborhoods-city/2006/10/07/Jeb-Bush-gets-rude-welcome/stories/200610070137

There were pics when the story first surfaced.

He blew kisses to Pittsburgh steel workers and they walked towards him and he was shuffled into a storage closet!

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. This is the weirdest primary season I have ever seen.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:13 PM
Oct 2015

Never would I have envisioned that a member of the Bush family would be doing so incredibly poorly that he could be out long before the first primary is even held. It's not like the stupid things he's been saying have been any more idiotic than anything Trump or Carson have ever said yet, for some reason, only he seems to be paying for it. Republican voters are losing what little sanity they had left and there seems to be no going back.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
55. Same here. I thought 2011-2 was wild with a new leader every month for the Repubs.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:18 PM
Oct 2015

This cycle is on the verge of topping the last one if Bush drops out before the year ends. Heck, he might not survive to see Halloween. Who would have predicted that six months ago?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
10. If no other Bush runs for president ever it won't be soon enough.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

This has been a great political week.

spanone

(135,827 posts)
11. 'ol jebby thought this was gonna be a cakewalk....them bu$h folk ain't used to hard work
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:18 PM
Oct 2015

take your shit an go home jeb

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
20. I thought all these bushitler bastards were moving to Paraguay. What ever happened with that. One
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:13 PM
Oct 2015

of them trying to steal office again. Can't they just go away forever!

waddirum

(979 posts)
21. there is a loose nose hair in photo 2
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:15 PM
Oct 2015

Campaign staff should be on top of that for all of the money they have been burning. There should be someone on staff dedicated solely to ear and nose duty (both hair plucking and errant booger/wax detail).

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
28. I hope Trump fuels the fire more by offering Jeb a position in his cabinet.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:46 PM
Oct 2015

It's going to be hilarious to see what kind of staff Trump builds.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
32. They used to care about imagery...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

This....



....reminds me of this....



Looks like everyone has abandoned him.

Even his own family.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
33. Killer smile.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:22 PM
Oct 2015


The Bush Dynasty and the Cuban Criminals

New book reveals links of two presidents and the governor of Florida with exiled hardliners


by Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles

The brother of President George Bush, the Florida governor, Jeb Bush, has been instrumental in securing the release from prison of militant Cuban exiles convicted of terrorist offences, according to a new book. The Bush family has also accommodated the demands of Cuban exile hardliners in exchange for electoral and financial support, the book suggests.

Last year, after September 11, while the justice department announced a sweep of terrorist suspects, Cubans convicted of terrorist offences were being released from US jails with the consent of the Bush administration, according to the book, Cuba Confidential: Love and Vengeance in Miami and Havana, by Ann Louise Bardach, the award-winning investigative journalist who has covered Cuban and Miami politics for the New York Times and Vanity Fair.

The Bush family connections go back to 1984 when Jeb Bush began a close association with Camilo Padreda, a former intelligence officer with the Batista dictatorship overthrown by Fidel Castro.

Jeb Bush was then the chairman of the Dade county Republican party and Padreda its finance chairman. Padreda had earlier been indicted on a $500,000 (£320,000) embezzlement charge along with a fellow exile, Hernandez Cartaya, but the charges were dropped, reportedly after the CIA stated that Cartaya had worked for them.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/02/usa.books

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. If anybody should be born on probation...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:45 PM
Oct 2015

Lies Of Our Times cover, ca. 1991:



...or have their heads nailed to the floor.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
39. The Bush Crime Family: America's Very Own Borgias.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:02 PM
Oct 2015

Utterly venal, utterly greedy, utterly sociopathic, utterly corrupt and utterly criminal.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
40. Killer post, Octafish.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:02 PM
Oct 2015

There are untold numbers of dark and ominous facets to Jeb Bush. Thank you for spotlighting his ties with the Cuban exiled hardliners. That's some bad karma right there.

Another one that I'd bet many people aren't aware of...

One of Jeb Bush's leading foreign policy advisers to his campaign is Otto Reich, a long-time troublemaker from the Reagan/Bush I/Bush II years.


One of Jeb Bush's principal foreign policy campaign advisers, a man named Otto Reich who is a veteran of the Reagan and George W. Bush administrations, has just made a very odd and enthusiastic argument in support of the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, in which he repeats one of the most widely discredited justifications for the war.

The quote appears in the current issue of the New Yorker, in a piece by Ryan Lizza on Jeb Bush's struggles with foreign policy. It is quite jarring to read:

"I can defend the invasion of Iraq," Reich told me. "What did the invasion of Iraq do? It caused all of the people who would’ve otherwise come and attacked us and killed Americans on our soil — it caused them to go to Iraq and die there. That may sound very brutal, or whatever, but we have seen what has happened when you have an administration like the current one, that did not realize what Bush had done; sent the troops home from Iraq; created a vacuum that was filled by ISIS. And they’re killing Americans and everyone else — they’re mostly killing Muslims. I lay that at the feet of the Obama Administration."


Reich is repeating an idea, now largely rejected, that post-invasion Iraq served as "flypaper" for America's enemies, allowing us to fight them so they couldn't threaten us at home. President George W. Bush and other American officials used it as a kind of retrospective justification for the Iraq War after the WMD rationale fell apart.

.....



From here:

Reich first went to work for the Reagan Administration at the Agency for International Development, in 1981. As the civil war in Nicaragua heated up, he moved to the State Department, where, from 1983 to 1986, he headed a Contra-support program that operated out of an outfit called the Office of Public Diplomacy. The office arranged speeches and recommended books to school libraries, but it also leaked false stories to the press—that, for instance, the Sandinista government was receiving Soviet MIG fighters, or was involved in drug trafficking. A declassified memo from one of Reich’s aides to Patrick Buchanan, the White House communications director, boasted about the office’s “White Propaganda” operations, including op-ed pieces prepared by its staff, signed by Contra leaders or academics, and placed in major newspapers. (Reich’s spokesman denied this.) The office employed Army psychological-warfare specialists, and worked closely with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, at the National Security Council.

When legitimate stories from Central America displeased Reich, he would confront journalists. He visited CBS News in April, 1984, after the network broadcast a documentary about El Salvador which Reich’s boss, Secretary of State George Shultz, considered—as he put it in a memo to his boss, President Reagan—”favorable to the guerrillas and distorting of U.S. and El Salvadoran government goals and tactics.” Reich met with the CBS diplomatic correspondent and the Washington bureau chief. “This is one example of what the Office of Public Diplomacy has been doing,” Shultz reported to Reagan. “It has been repeated dozens of times over the past few months.”

In 1985, Reich demanded a meeting with the senior staff of National Public Radio—which he had taken to calling National People’s Radio, or, sometimes, Moscow on the Potomac—after a report about a Contra slaughter of civilians. As Bill Buzenberg, the NPR foreign-affairs correspondent, recalled the meeting, Reich bragged that he had “gotten others to change some of their reporters in the field because of a perceived bias.” He warned the journalists that his office would be monitoring NPR’s broadcasts. Buzenberg later suggested that Reich’s attempt to intimidate people at NPR had been effective. He recounted in a speech how an editor had asked him, with regard to one of his stories, “What would Otto Reich think?”

After a tense luncheon at the home of a diplomat in Managua, attended by Reich and John Lantigua, a Washington Post stringer, and Morris Thompson, of Newsday, an item appeared in the newsletter of the conservative press-watchdog group Accuracy in Media (AIM), calling Lantigua “Johnny Sandinista” and claiming that the Nicaraguan government was supplying him and other reporters with “trusted Sandinista females.” New York magazine later reported that Reich had been interviewed for the AIM story. Reich told New York that he had heard from “defectors from the Sandinista government” that “it isn’t only women” who were supplied. (Thompson is gay.) “This thing is sordid,” Reich told New York. It also seems to have been untrue. Reich’s office, asked for comment last week, denied that he had been the source of the AIM story.

A 1987 report by the United States Comptroller General, produced in the course of the Iran-Contra investigation, concluded that Reich’s office had “engaged in prohibited, covert propaganda activities.” When Reich’s spokesman was asked about this finding, he replied that it was “based solely on the inaccurate and exaggerated claims of a member of Ambassador Reich’s staff.” The spokesman added that Reich had worked closely with the State Department’s legal adviser “to ensure that all office activities were legal and appropriate.”


Much more at the link.


Such as this:

It was Jeb Bush who proposed to his brother that Otto Reich be made Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs. Karl Rove, the President’s senior political adviser, strongly endorsed the idea, as did the Cuban-American House members from Florida. After the frantically close election that George W. Bush had just won in Florida, Reich’s nomination was widely seen as payback to the Miami Cubans. Jeb Bush, meanwhile, is running for reelection as governor of Florida this year, and the support of Cuban-Americans is crucial to his success at the polls.


That is from October 14, 2002.


Some bad, bad, sulfurous karma swirling around Jeb Bush.

Octafish, your dedication to yanking this history out into the open for us is critical for our understanding of the Bush Family tentacles.

Thanks again, friend.






Octafish

(55,745 posts)
48. Killer company, Compay.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:01 AM
Oct 2015

After all that's been done to democracy through Iran-Contra for Pruneface and Poppy, Otto Reich worked wonders for Capitalism's Invisible Army in Haiti and Venezuela for the giggling mass murderer George W Bush. Of course, Reich is still with us, having worked a Buy Partisan magic on Honduras in 2009. Just as long as they're killing people labeled "communists," the human hunt is all legal like.

Otto Reich and a Venezuelan named Robert Carmona-Borjas, known for his role as attorney for the dictator Pedro Carmona during the April 2002 coup d’etat in Venezuela, aided in preparing the groundwork for the coup against President Zelaya in Honduras. -- http://www.chavezcode.com/2009/07/washington-coup-in-honduras-here-is.html


PS: Thank you for the kind words, seafan. You have long been on the front lines fighting fascism -- in the world of ideas and in the world of real life. The honor is mine.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
49. This meltdown is one of the sweetest things I have ever witnessed in politics!
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:42 AM
Oct 2015

And I think it's only going to get better. He's about to become the public face of shame for BFEE.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
51. It's amazing that he does not recognize that his brother and
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

Dick Cheney committed such horrendously despicable acts that no one who's is blood kin to them could ever be President.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
54. It should be a surprise to nobody. 35+ years of stagnant wages and draining every last crumb of
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

government discretionary money from the American economy has this as it's terminal result.

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