Breaking: Cretin SRO officer who attacked student to be fired.

[MoonRiver]

per MSNBC

Great!

Now the parents of this student need to sue that guy's arse. Believe I heard they will begin the process in a few days.

[NightWatcher]

1. Sue the Department, they've just admitted he was wrong by firing him for it.

[Nye Bevan]

4. Yep. I think there will be a quick, generous settlement.

They will not want to go to trial on this, they will just want to end it.

[Bubzer]

47. Additional information

While Lott said, “the student was being disruptive,” his department’s review of the incident led to the conclusion that Field’s “use of force was unacceptable” and he “did not follow proper training, proper procedure” when he “threw her across the classroom.”

Because he did not follow proper procedure, Lott said Field’s employment was terminated Wednesday morning.

http://wreg.com/2015/10/28/school-resource-officer-fired-after-video-of-classroom-arrest-goes-viral/

There is a claim of the girl punching the Cop...I've seen nothing that agrees with that claim.

[Bettie]

59. As she is being thrown to the ground, her hands go up and

may make contact with the cop.

I guess if you move while being tossed to the ground, you are assaulting the person who is throwing you nowadays.

[hifiguy]

61. Asking a kkkop "What's going on?"

these days will definitely get you a "resisting arrest" charge and probably tased in the bargain.

[erronis]

25. This is exactly what FBI Director Comey was worried about.

You really can't allow cameras in the classroom. The Peace Officers feel intimidated and can't let their inner animal show through.

Guns OK, cameras bad.

[Joe Chi Minh]

56. LOL Very witty !

[Bettie]

2. Pleasant surprise

I really thought they would keep him.

[erlewyne]

48. Payback is hell

We need always to think of consequences.

and remember.... we ain't jack sh....

[ryan_cats]

3. Fired is a start

Fired is a good start but he needs to be charged with assault under the color of authority.

The downside is that, what kind of environment do teachers have to put up with when kids misbehave? I'm not blaming teachers. I'm blaming administrators and today's parents whose kids act this way.

If my father saw that SRO do to me what he did to that girl, he would have wanted to give him a medal.

[rbrnmw]

6. SLED is doing a criminal investigation

I think he will be charged at least I hope so.

[cwydro]

7. There is some scary stuff going on in the schools.

CNN has been running a video all day showing a terrible fight in a CA school where the principal got body slammed to the ground.

Something is very wrong in our schools.

[Snobblevitch]

12. That kind of crap is happening in the

St. Paul, Minnesota school district. Teachers are being assaulted and the school administors (suoerintendent) are not backing the teachers.

[MoonRiver]

15. Violence begets violence.

Last year I worked in a prison high school, and amazingly the students were treated with more kindness and respect than I ever saw in the suburban high schools. Yes, there were consequences for misbehavior, but they did not involve violence. The officers who worked there went through extensive training in using non-violent means to address conflicts. Sometimes an out of control student had to be taken down, but the methods used to do so were designed, as much as possible, not to cause physical harm.

[peace13]

27. Thanks for this.

I agree, violence begets violence and respect is a two way street.

[groundloop]

28. ^^^ BINGO ^^^ PROPER TRAINING

PROPER TRAINING is the key, coupled with weeding out the individuals who don't belong in that position of authority. There are usually ways to deal with situations which don't involve violence or the use of force, I witnessed that myself one time when a plain clothed officer engaged some obnoxious fans at a baseball game in conversation for over half an hour instead of starting a confrontation.

[MoonRiver]

36. Yes, very good example!

And I just heard someone mention the technique of emptying the class before talking to the problem student. A lot of behavior is attention getting. Once that stimulus is removed, the officer can talk one-on-one with the student about what's going on that may be causing her/him problems. We did that in the prison and it was amazingly effective.

[Mopar151]

43. It's a spring-loaded assembly, in mechanical terms.

Releasing the pressure safely, in a controlled manner, is key!

Note - similar technique, similar result!

[GoCubsGo]

37. Exactly right.

You don't bring in a guy whose nickname is "Officer Slam" to deal with misbehaving children, even the teenage kind.

[KatyMan]

50. Pardon my ignorance

but what's a "prison high school"? School age offenders in prison?

[MoonRiver]

62. Yes. The school was in a Juvenile Detention Facility.

Prisoners were ages 12 to 25. The older prisoners had offended when they were juveniles.

[jwirr]

31. My sister taught a special ed class for youth that were on

their last chance in school. In other words kids who had misbehaved so much that they school was ready to throw them out. She was good at it.

She did tell me that the school had a police officer on duty to protect the teachers who were sometimes attacked by a student. She did not like the idea and she never had to use them. I got the idea that she thought that this was a problem that was only made worse by the presence of a police officer.

[Mopar151]

38. You can't have a riot

Until the Riot Squad arrives to make it official!

[jwirr]

40. LOL Yes police riots are the thing.

[Joe Chi Minh]

57. Kind words to most kids like that girl would have been very effective. I'd bet on it.

[jwirr]

63. Yes, my sister used to say that her students came in two

categories. Children with dis-functional families and children who had been sexually abused. Her approach to teaching was to give them a family like atmosphere and realize that education may not have been their biggest problem.

When I visited her it was not unsual for one of these students to come and visit even after they were out of her class. I will never forget the time she called me crying because one of her former students was being executed that day. She never gave up on them but she also lost some.

[Joe Chi Minh]

64. What a wonderful person. And what striking perceptiveness: '....and realize that

education may not have been their biggest problem.'

[jwirr]

66. Thank you. I am big sis but she is my hero.

[LeftyMom]

76. I went to that school. My kid is supposed to be attending that school.

In the past there have been drive-by shootings, huge race-based gang fights, and at least three teachers I know of arrested for raping children. NOBODY GAVE A SHIT. It barely even made the *local* news. And now all the sudden a fight in the cafeteria is international news?

The only reason anybody cares about that fight is because racists want to use it to justify throwing that cop in South Carolina throwing that little girl around by implying that all black kids are dangerous.

[Vincardog]

32. The student in question texted in class. That is the equivalent of passing a note in my day.

[ryan_cats]

70. My

My understanding is that she did indeed text in class and when asked to stop, did not and when asked to leave, did not. Did the SRO have a right to body slam her? Of course not, unless she was a minority and he was white.

In my day, the granite we engraved and passed around class was very disruptive with the hammering and sliding noises but even if I only came in tardy, my dad would have applauded what that SRO did.

[Vincardog]

71. If that is true your dad sounds like an unenlightened fool

[ryan_cats]

75. How

How very judgmental.

This wasn't last week.

[Iggo]

5. ...SHOULD BE JAILED.

[MoonRiver]

8. Yes, hopefully

[Pisces]

9. This is the appropriate call. it doesn't matter what she said to him, nothing called for his

attack on her. Over a cell phone? I can not believe anyone would defend or need more info. This girls did not have a weapon and
was not threatening anyone with violence. Anyone trying to dissect the video and say she deserved it because she tried to hit
the officer as her desk was being flipped over is reaching for an explanation where there is none.

[backscatter712]

10. Now, he needs to be put on a list.

Cops with records of police brutality and abuse need to be put on a list, like a sex-offenders list, to make sure he never works in law enforcement, or even as a security guard, ever again. Every police department in the country should be required to check potential new-hires, and refuse to hire anyone who's on the list.

Because I'll bet this asshole goes right to the municipality next door, and gets himself hired as a cop again. Or maybe he'll get a job in the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office - Joe Arpaio likes the cut of his jib.

[bvf]

30. Good idea.

Because I'll bet this asshole goes right to the municipality next door, and gets himself hired as a cop again.

Like the asshole who shot Tamir Rice.

Nor should those on the list be allowed to own firearms.

Cops capable of the kind of shit seen in these videos aren't right in the head.

[Ghost in the Machine]

11. GOOD!!! That's what I called for earlier!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7294472

I know almost everyone here called for it too, but honestly, I think we all had our doubts that it would actually happen! Props to the Chief for his action on this! Many others need to follow in his footsteps.....

Peace,

Ghost

[cwydro]

13. Yes, I did too.

Now let's see if they arrest him.

Surely the child's parents can press charges with that video as exhibit 1.

[Ghost in the Machine]

53. I hope he is prosecuted to the max, then sued for everything he has! N/T

[Mopar151]

44. It, long past time.....

That a whole lot of people get over the idea that kicking the shit out of somebody is any sort of way to solve much of anything.

[Ghost in the Machine]

51. I spent about 8 years as a bouncer in some of the roughest biker bars from Homestead to Hallandale

Beach Florida. I found that 99% of the time, you could diffuse a situation without any violence.... BUT.... there was always that one jackass that wanted a fight come hell or high water. Violence is the ONLY language *some* people understand, and I used to speak it very fluently.

That was 25 - 30 years ago.... I now live a mellow, peaceful life in the mountains of East TN.

Peace,

Ghost

[Mopar151]

68. I did'nt mean to imply that ass- whipping was never necessary.

Merely that if it is a necessity (and Lord knows there are some....), it's more like removing an obstacle, so that a solution can be found.....

[Ghost in the Machine]

74. Oh, I understood what you meant. I was agreeing, and added a personal anecdote...

I'm sure others can relate, too...



Peace,

Ghost

[City Lights]

14. Great news! nt

[Rex]

16. Good, now he will have to get his Roid fix somewhere else.

Also, I would sue the school for recklessly puting my daughters life in danger over a PHONE.

[Mariana]

54. Imagine bringing in a cop for a kid passing a note

back in the day. That is the equivalent behavior. I never saw anyone thrown out of class, much less arrested, for doing that. Teachers told kids passing and/or receiving notes to knock it off. If the kids didn't knock it off, teachers pretended not to see it and continued with the class, because passing notes (or texting) in class is just not all that disruptive.

[malaise]

17. Live press conference on now

I only have one question for the sheriff - if a parent did what we saw on video to his/her child, would that child be removed from the home?

[rbrnmw]

20. I can answer that

Yes and parents arrested.

[niyad]

18. firing him is only the start. he should be arrested and jailed. I hope the parents clean

him out, as well as the department that hired him. sadly, my guess is that he will simply end up on another force somewhere, continuing his documented abusive behaviour.

[malaise]

19. Fired - just announced

fired from police department - good start.

[Phentex]

21. Good news...

we need it every once in a while.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

22. The sheriff is on TV now...Why the @$#% are religious leaders present

at the press conference? The sheriff was saying who all was there and mentioned that they were consulting with religious leaders and that they have a citizen's review board, which is a good thing.

But what the @#$% does the religious community have to do with this?

[The CCC]

26. The sheriff is on TV now...Why the @$#% are religious leaders present

It's part of community outreach.

[jwirr]

35. Depends - are they rw churches? Or black church leaders?

Remember black church leaders often stand up against this type of abuse.

[The CCC]

39. Depends - are they rw churches? Or black church leaders?

Why should it make any difference? We more people of good will regardless of color, religion, or politics.

[jwirr]

41. Well I guess if you think rw churches are people of good will

then you would want them there - not me. I would suggest you do some reading on Dominism and the Hucklebee R candidate in the GOP.

Good will means that you want to help. The hate preachers are not trying to help.

[yardwork]

23. I read that he has a long history of this behavior.

[Joe Chi Minh]

55. It's utterly reprehensible that they keep getting re-hired in another 'manor'.

[yardwork]

67. I think he was with the same department. At least four prior accusations

of using extreme force against women of color. Nice guy.

[Joe Chi Minh]

73. Brave, too.

[George II]

24. Done - he has been fired.

[Gothmog]

29. Yeah

[IVoteDFL]

33. It's a start, but he should be in jail

If any other adult assaulted a minor they would be in deep shit.

[Jim__]

34. Are there still charges pending against the 2 students?

I hope not!

[Lee-Lee]

42. Good start. Now fire the teacher and principle

If they couldn't handle a simple classroom discipline issue like a student texting in class without resorting to getting a cop involved they don't belong in those positions.

[Joe Chi Minh]

45. What on earth is a cop doing in a classroom, anyway ? What is he doing

in a school ?

Heck! What am I talking about? We have them in our hospitals in the UK now. But still.... a school ...?

[Lee-Lee]

46. There are legitimate roles for a School Resource Officer

They have a role when responding to students who are violent, parents who get violent, drugs in school and other actual law enforcement issues.

But more and more the teachers and administrators are using them as classroom disciplinarians for all kinds of minor issues that are not legitimate roles for law enforcement- like bringing a clock to school or texting in class.

[Mariana]

58. There was an officer in my high school in the 1980's.

My school had enough actual crime to keep him busy, he didn't get involved at all with discipline.

[Joe Chi Minh]

65. Precisely. This was a matter of DISCIPLINE. It seems 'our friend' had major discipline issues,

having been in major trouble two or three times before. It would be poetic justice if he got a good body-slamming and working over by guys his size - by way of instruction... and... and discipline. I wouldn't fancy his chances if he had to do time.

[Tipperary]

49. I am very glad to hear this.

And I think that young lady who stood up for the abused student should get a medal. At the very least, the charges against her should be dropped.

[JackInGreen]

52. Ahhh

The smell of stewed pork..

[tabasco]

60. Let this be a lesson to the rest of the power crazy psychos who become cops

Big tough macho man roughing up a high school student in front of the class.

POS.

[HereSince1628]

69. Another thread suggests student's mother has died, and student is in foster care

So there may not be a parent to file a law-suit.

The kid needs an advocate.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. Someone Will Step Forward

There are good people who live for moments like this. And, while i'm at it, sue the school district for adopting a zero tolerance policy and bringing in cops without proper pysch screening.

Even if this was a school for "incorigibles", they need calm, rationale, controlled security people. Not some yahoo on steroids.

If they want to go zero tolerance, they need to be held to a higher standard. They've already abdicated any responsibility by accepting zero tolerance.