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CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:26 PM Oct 2015

Subway's Jared is even more disgusting and disturbing than first thought

He even admitted to raping a little boy

Jared Fogle Admits to Sexual Encounters With Children on Secret Audio Recordings

A former journalist has come forward to reveal that in a series of taped conversations she had with Jared Fogle, the onetime Subway spokesperson admits his sexual interest and sexual encounters with children.

In a two-part episode of Dr. Phil, airing Oct. 29 and 30, Rochelle Herman-Walrond says that while interviewing Fogle in 2006 on her local Florida radio show, she grew suspicious when Fogle mentioned that he was attracted to middle school girls.

Herman-Walrond tells Dr. Phil that she started up a friendship with Fogle with the intent of gathering more information and claims Fogle continued to make comments about his sexual interest in children. Herman-Walrond says she spent five years secretly recording her conversations with Fogle to use as evidence against him.

In one of the audio tapes, Fogle, is heard saying, "I would fly us clear across the world if we need to. To Thailand or wherever we want to go. If we're gonna try to get some young kids with us it would be a lot easier."

Herman-Walrond alleges that other conversations with Fogle included him talking about flying to an undisclosed location to have sex with a minor, and discussions about attending a children's party to target potential victims.

http://www.etonline.com/news/174915_jared_fogle_secret_audio_allegedly_has_him_admitting_to_sexual_encounters_with_children/

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Subway's Jared is even more disgusting and disturbing than first thought (Original Post) CatWoman Oct 2015 OP
Put him in a cell with Cosby. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #1
she reported him to Subway and they turned a blind eye CatWoman Oct 2015 #4
I haven't eaten at Subway for years and years Kalidurga Oct 2015 #27
The whole story is alarming underpants Oct 2015 #2
Isn't just a celebrity ''problem.'' Attorneys and Politicians, too... Octafish Oct 2015 #3
I had forgotten about Foley CatWoman Oct 2015 #5
Jimmy Savile and members of Parliament in England deutsey Oct 2015 #13
I have a feeling that Jared will Don lapre himself before making it to prison Doctor_J Oct 2015 #6
TIL the "little classified ad" guy offed himself in prison. Frank Cannon Oct 2015 #26
OK, I'm physically ill after reading that nt MrScorpio Oct 2015 #7
Ugh. Poor Subway Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #8
Subway was told a long time ago LuvNewcastle Oct 2015 #12
oh Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #16
Not even their five-dollar footlongs? KamaAina Oct 2015 #18
The tolerance for crimes against children is appalling.The perverts convince themselves that they underahedgerow Oct 2015 #9
In England they are just now starting to go after wealthy and powerful men, tblue37 Oct 2015 #11
you must have not heard of the bush connection shanti Oct 2015 #20
When did she learn about his actions? Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #10
Whoa nelly... she was recording for the FBI who were trying to bring down everyone involved... JCMach1 Oct 2015 #19
I watched the interview today. She is explaining everything. OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #21
I was not attempting to castigate this woman. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #24
Hey Jared come on over for lunch one day I have a nice set of pruning shears I want to show you n/t Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #14
It's hard to even fathom how someone could be so sick and evil. Beausoir Oct 2015 #15
Why did it take five years for this investigation? Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #17
If you can handle it, I would recommend you watch the OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #23
Thank you for the information. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #25
I am a victim, so I absolutely agree that it is awful OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #28
It's better to build an airtight case mythology Oct 2015 #30
I hope they never let him near another child. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #22
You know I don't know what I'm more disgusted by. Initech Oct 2015 #29

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. Put him in a cell with Cosby.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:30 PM
Oct 2015

Seriously, I understand that whoever and whatever were waiting until they had gathered enough evidence, but it sounds like several people have known there was something seriously wrong with this dude for 10 years or more.

I'm wondering what took so long.

CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
4. she reported him to Subway and they turned a blind eye
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:57 PM
Oct 2015

she then went to the FBI, and they had her wear a wire.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. I haven't eaten at Subway for years and years
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:36 AM
Oct 2015

but now I won't eat there until the day after never.

underpants

(182,585 posts)
2. The whole story is alarming
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:46 PM
Oct 2015

While Jared was telling the reporter, at a kids diabetes event, how much he liked young girls (she and her cameraman literally asked each other "Did you hear that?&quot and then asked her since she has some teenage girls would she be willing to have some cameras installed. He knew a guy.

The guy he knew was the President of his charity. He had really hidden cameras set up in his and/or Jared's house. Then this guy contacted a woman he knew that owned some horses. Would she be willing to let He Nd his girlfriend come out to the stable and both do what they wanted to with the horses. Then he started texting this women explicit photos. She was the second person to document what was going on and report it to authorities.

These guys were - this is just sick.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Isn't just a celebrity ''problem.'' Attorneys and Politicians, too...
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:55 PM
Oct 2015

Republican Rep. Mark Foley headed the subcommittee on missing and exploited children in Congress. In his spare time, he sent lewd messages to underage male pages. Sweaty Dennis the Molester Hastert protected the guy, until the thing got so big he had to quit Congress.

One more to remember: The late US Assistant Attorney John David Roy Atchison from Florida and Alabama was busted when he went to sexually assault a little girl in Detroit. Allowed to suicide on his second try in custody.



Roy Atchison: On the Paper Trail of a Paedophile

Posted on September 9, 2010 by Margie Burns

This blog entry is the first of a series of articles on John David Roy Atchison. Atchison, anAssistant U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Florida, Pensacola office, was arrested in September 2007 on charges relating to pedophilia. He committed suicide in federal prison in October 2007. Arrest and suicide were not foregrounded by the Department of Justice in the Bush administration. The first articles, based largely on FBI material obtained under FOIA, will focus on the criminal acts and their context in 2007 in the Pensacola office.

This is not the story of a man who engaged in pedophilia for years or decades before being caught. It is the story of a man whipsawed by the strain of living up to a high-achieving family rooted in Birmingham, Ala., whose high-functioning connections assisted him for years in developing a career for which he turned out not to be suited. On Sept. 16, 2007, Assistant U.S. Attorney John David Roy Atchison, serving as a federal prosecutor in the Northern District of Florida, was arrested on credible charges of basically pedophilia. Atchison committed suicide in federal prison Oct. 5.

A dead pedophile might not sound like a tragedy. But Atchison was thought to be participating in a pedophile ring, and his death removed a useful informant from law enforcement resources. The question of how he was enabled to kill himself rather than being preserved for justice is one of the loose ends left hanging in his case. This article series will look at the case itself, at how Atchison attained his federal career, and at the easy prison suicide in 2007.

The legal case begins in August 2007, when an officer identified only as part of the Detroit Deputized Cyber Task Force, posing online as a divorced mother of two small children, was Instant Messengered by Yahoo! Member “fldaddy04.” As the Federal Bureau of Investigation notes, when the TFO added the user to her buddy list, the name “John Davidson” replaced “fldaddy04.” By Sept. 12, the FBI had determined that ‘Davidson” was actually Atchison, married since 1983, who lived with his wife, a high school teacher and cheerleading coach, in Gulf Breeze, Florida, and was president of the Gulf Breeze Sports Association as well as an Assistant U.S. Attorney.

CONTINUED...

http://www.margieburns.com/2010/09/roy-atchison-on-the-paper-trail-of-a-pedophile-part-1/



Lots of evil that "no one" wants to tie together.

CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
5. I had forgotten about Foley
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:59 PM
Oct 2015

and I read today that Hastert has pled guilty, and is looking at perhaps 10 years.

Now to read the rest of your post

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
13. Jimmy Savile and members of Parliament in England
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:29 AM
Oct 2015

A ‘big political cover-up’ of 1980s pedophile-ring in U.K. Parliament?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/a-big-political-cover-up-of-1980s-pedophile-ring-in-u-k-parliament/

Britain investigates alleged VIP pedophile ring from '70s and '80s

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-pedophile-allegations-20141223-story.html

Ted Heath allegations: Jersey victims' lawyer says linking former PM to child sex abuse like 'pinning down a jellyfish'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ted-heath-allegations-jersey-victims-lawyer-says-linking-former-pm-to-child-sex-abuse-like-pinning-10440311.html

Then there's Jeffrey Epstein, the Franklin Scandal, etc., on this side of the pond.

It sure doesn't seem like these are all just isolated instances.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. I have a feeling that Jared will Don lapre himself before making it to prison
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:51 PM
Oct 2015

This is going to get really disgusting before it's over

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
26. TIL the "little classified ad" guy offed himself in prison.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015

Also, that Subway Jared molested horses in addition to kids.

Plenty of WTF in this thread.

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
12. Subway was told a long time ago
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:46 AM
Oct 2015

about what Jared was up to and they did nothing. I won't be eating there again.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
9. The tolerance for crimes against children is appalling.The perverts convince themselves that they
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:24 AM
Oct 2015

have no obligation to control their sexual attraction to kids or animals. Whatta ya gonna do? They protect each other. Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'old boys club'.

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
11. In England they are just now starting to go after wealthy and powerful men,
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:30 AM
Oct 2015

including celebrities and those in government, who created a pedophile network in which they abused vulnerable children and teens in orphanages, juvenile detention facilities, and foster care. Some hunted their prey in boarding schools, too, since teachers were included in the ring--probably because despite not being wealthy and powerful themselves, they had access to and influence over kids.

Even when bis of public exposure and pressure started to get the investigations going, their political and legal system delayed exposing some of the pedophiles long enough for them to die before having to face justice.

I would not be surprised to learn that such collusion among the powerful to exploit vulnerable children and teens goes on here, too.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
10. When did she learn about his actions?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:10 AM
Oct 2015

She has some explaining to do if she did nothing to stop him sooner rather than later.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
21. I watched the interview today. She is explaining everything.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:15 PM
Oct 2015

It was extremely difficult for her and the authorities made her drag it out to be sure they had enough to prosecute someone w/ his notoriety. She did more than I believe I ever could. She should be given a medal, not castigation.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
24. I was not attempting to castigate this woman.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:50 AM
Oct 2015

I just wish the investigation did not last long enough to create as many victims as apparently Fogel abused.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
17. Why did it take five years for this investigation?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
Oct 2015

This a all the victims who did not need to be victims if it did not take so long.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
23. If you can handle it, I would recommend you watch the
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:18 PM
Oct 2015

second part of the interview tomorrow. It is not easy to snare a person of his money and notoriety. Much had to be done to be sure they had enough to prosecute and it wasn't as if she talked to him on a daily basis. She had to be so careful in what she said. He eventually asked to see her own children naked. Please be compassionate to what she had to go through before you make a judgment on her or the authorities. They wanted to be sure they had him and they put her thru hell.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
25. Thank you for the information.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:54 AM
Oct 2015

This subject really bothers me because I personally know some victims of this type of abuse. Their lives are hell they have never fully recovered.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
28. I am a victim, so I absolutely agree that it is awful
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:11 PM
Oct 2015

that he was not caught sooner, but this woman did all she could while becoming physically ill after having talked to him. We have yet to learn why no victims made an outcry beforehand.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
30. It's better to build an airtight case
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:23 PM
Oct 2015

For obvious reasons it's really hard to count count on victimized kids as witnesses and making sure they could take down down as many of this group as possible given how much easier it is to hide online these days.

One major downside to modern Internet encryption is that it's easier to get groups of scum trading illegal pictures and videos where police can't see. To Tobe able to get an in is a real opportunity to do some damage.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
29. You know I don't know what I'm more disgusted by.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Oct 2015

The situation with Jared is horrifying enough, but now you have Dr. Phil in the mix trying to profit off of an already shitty situation. Jared pleaded guilty and is doing time. Is the information that Dr. Phil is presenting really anything new? Do we really need this?

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Jared in the slightest. Jared is a predator, and he got nothing more than a slap on the wrist. He should be doing hard time for his crimes, but is Dr. Phil really the place to divulge details about this case?

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