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Cher tweet
Right there!
People defending the cop's actions, or even questioning it, are just despicable people.
From David Champion Media
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Defiant teens are a PITA but adults who deal with them every day should have better tools for dealing with them. It's now come out that this girl's mother died recently and she is in foster care. I'd like to see how compliant Officer Slambo would have been in her situation.
marym625
(17,997 posts)If you get a nickname "Officer Slam," you know damn well there's a history of being a psychotic asswipe.
If anyone else, that wasn't a cop, had done this, they would be in jail. These horrible excuses for human beings need to be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)administrator? I wondered about the teacher immediately the first time I saw the videos. BOTH supported Slam's actions and did not feel they were excessive -- apparently SOP in this school district. The firings need to start at the top in the school board and continue right down to include the teacher.
This sort of thing is an excellent example against the "states rights" that the right makes such a principle of -- so that people I wouldn't let babysit my cats could do whatever their so-called conservative ideologies excused without outside interference.
marym625
(17,997 posts)geardaddy
(24,926 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)The teacher called the principal and the girl wouldn't comply.
The cop was a criminal, and should go to jail for what he did, but let's stop lying about everyone else.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and had happened other times at this school and others in the district. He knew Officer Slam's reputation, as did everyone else in the school. He also knew that if it progressed that far the girl would likely be arrested and charged as a criminal.
This school district, like South Carolina as a whole, apparently has a long record of various undesirable practices, abuses of students, and failure of duties that are well above national averages, something that simply could not happen without the complicity of a majority of teachers.
I repeat -- the first time I saw that video I started wondering about the teacher. Horrified and shocked? Or complicit? It turned out to be definitely and inexcusably complicit by someone who should have made it his first effort to protect the student from "procedure."
And, Adigal, I really don't appreciate your characterizing the results of my research as lies. I understand that we may have very different standards for the behavior and duties of teachers, and the well-regarded sources I always go to can be wrong, but I did not "lie" and you are out of line.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you. And I'm sorry you were subjected to that at all and especially here.
Absolutely the teacher is part of the problem
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)There are so many good teachers who have been forced out or left on their own, because of the whole comply or else policy in public schools today.
I hate this shit.
adigal
(7,581 posts)I'm flummoxed as to why you think I called you a liar? And because the cop is a jerk the girl should be allowed to follow only the rules she likes?? Please.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)brush
(53,759 posts)Can't defend that.
adigal
(7,581 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)period. Find out the history of Slambo, school district, history of race relations in that area and the number of wack job school administrators, teachers and 'resource people' before calling others liars. Misinformed and uninformed calling a person a liar. Great job.... Resources for violence and racism is more like it.
adigal
(7,581 posts)A lot of them said he was a good guy. I don't get it, but i also don't get your refusal to understand that there are rules in schools for a reason. It's nuts. Please, come to the world of reality here.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)only about 100 kids took part in the demonstration. And a student, according to a poster on another thread, who was intervied said only 40-50 student showed up to defend this animal. Out of how many total students, 2000?. Percentage wise, very low turnout for a 'mass demonstration'. That's reality. You seem to be orbiting around the bizarro world yourself. Yes there are rules in all schools as it should be. I never said there should not be. Yet you seem intent on taking your stand on rules are to be enforced, no matter what or you would not be so adamant about the enforcement of the rules on this young woman-child. Ummmmmm, I wonder...... Keep rationalizing, you'll come up with a good one yet.....
DrDan
(20,411 posts)to blame the teacher is simply ridiculous. Hard to believe there are some here actually calling for the firing of the teacher.
The teacher was correct in calling the principal if the girl refused to comply with the requests.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)Americans watch that video and are sickened. The teacher and administrator were in the room and did nothing. Yes, there must be accountability here on every level.
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)I have this happen in my high school classroom several times a year. I send a kid to the office for disruptive behaviour, but she or he refuses to budge. I call the administrator, and the child is escorted to the office. (I have never had a student who wouldn't go when the administrator came. It's likely our school resource officer would have been called in to help, but I can guarantee he would not have acted as this man did).
If a cop came in and slammed my student to the floor - and more! - I would be in horror!
Why blame the teacher when the cop is clearly to blame for his own actions?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I do know that how these situations are handled goes directly to the question of what the purposes of schools are and what their duties to their students and communities are.
There are a million definitions of education out there for those of all political and economic viewpoints to choose from. You have whatever yours is. I have a strongly aspirational notion of individual development; of course -- I'm a liberal.
South Carolina's in action is probably more like Scott Walker's when he tried to remove from the state code the terms search for truth and improve the human condition and replace them with meet the states workforce needs. But even Scott's soulless fascist purpose is failed by South Carolina's destructive process.
When this unhappy 16-year-old acted out, the school abandoned its higher duties (and I believe they are very high) to begin funneling her, via South Carolina's viciously counterproductive zero-tolerance policy, into the jail system. And on the way this 16-year-old girl was treated not as a child or as a citizen but with the most profound contempt and brutalized in a way that shocked the world. A great deal of documentation shows that this kind of tragedy is SOP in South Carolina and that Black students disproportionately victimized.
As for how I "know" that the teacher and administrator supported Officer Slam's behavior, I did not hear their statements myself but rather heard them reported on PBS. As for blaming the teacher, though -- oh, you bet! The teacher knew not only Officer Slam's reputation, but far more importantly, the destructively punitive and criminalizing process that would be initiated if this girl didn't suddenly decide to obey the administrator.
I really, really meant it when I said those teachers absolutely have a RESPONSIBILITY to both deal constructively with their misbehaving students and to protect them from being ground up in this evil process, and I don't care what the local procedure manual says. This adolescent girl, whose brain is far from adult maturity, was betrayed by those who were responsible for her wellbeing.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Because the teacher called the principal on a non-compliant student, the teacher began funneling the student into the prison system???
Maybe, the teacher wanted the student to give him her cell phone, in compliance with student regulations, and was hoping bringing in the principal would end the situation. The cop wasn't called right away. Stop blaming the teacher for calling the cop in. It's hard to take your argument seriously when you are changing the facts to fit your thesis. And since when are rules optional in high schools? Can you imagine 3000 teens in a school, all of them defying rules they don't like?? Total chaos. And then you would probably blame the teachers for being ineffective.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to get where I'm coming from, oh, well. That's what makes the world go stumbling around, right?
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)People forget about the need for rules to be enforced in a school.
Nobody would learn anything if the students did whatever they felt like.
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this already emotionally challenged child should have been slammed to the ground, dragged and thrown across the room, in your book, that is. Right? It is called racist abuse, what happened to this emotionally damaged "child" and what she suffered at the hands of this animal. And you, defending the actions of all 'adults' in this situation, leads me to a lot of questions about your logic and compassion for this child.
If 30, 300 or 3000 teens were emotionally challenged as this child was and is, even more terribly now, then they have to be treated with compassion and restraint no matter how an adult might feel about "non-compliance" to their 'demands'. Looks like the slave master dealing with an unruly slave mentality at play here. PERIOD. Lucky she is still alive.
adigal
(7,581 posts)The cop was criminal. He should go to jail for what he did. But the young lady was out of line, also. How hard is it to follow that logic?
with the caveats present in this particular situation, very very difficult to follow your logic, therefore I'm finished trying. Impossible task.
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)You forget that there are other students in the classroom who have a right to an education. Perhaps not in the case of this girl, but in most cases where a student is sent out, that student is disrupting class in some way.
When he or she does that, they are impeding learning and, very often, creating an environment in which the other students don't feel safe.
If you had a child in school who complained of a constant uproar in class due to the behavior of one or two students, I am confident you would lobby to have that child taken out of the class when he is disruptive. Any good parent is going to be upset if their child is constantly distracted or even frightened.
We have a school resource officer too, who has served this purpose on occasion (although not for any of my students). He is a kind man, has a good rapport with the kids, and mostly, he would never hurl a child across the room.
In this case, the teacher did what she was supposed to do, and the administrator did his job, as defined by the school's apparent policy to have a resource officer available for such incidents. It is the cop who came in ready for battle. He alone is at fault.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)educators deserve much higher pay and lot more respect than they usually get.
I never assumed what happens in this SC district happens in yours; it is very, very bad. That said, I do wonder at excuses being made here for inexcusable behaviors.
adigal
(7,581 posts)In my 22 years of public school teaching, I have had the same exact experiences as you have. Students have never refused to comply once the administrator comes in. We don't have to call the police.
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)I've gotten to the point I don't even keep track anymore - lol.
I love it though. I teach chemistry, which can be pretty fun. I have a lot of latitude with my lower-level/less motivated classes, and really enjoy making learning fun for them. For some of the more difficult kids, it can be the highlight of their day.
adigal
(7,581 posts)But to hear people here, the fact that I am the boss in my classroom makes me Mussolini.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)He's most definitely an adult.
I read that she's 18, what does that make her?
It makes him a bully and unemployed which should only be a start.
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)n/t
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)That makes her a teenager..... not a child.
But being a teenager makes it even worse. Children act better than teens. Officer Friendly should have known better. Take a Klonopin, dude!
whathehell
(29,050 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I think that's why I typed:
"Officer Friendly should have known better. Take a Klonopin, dude!"
But don't let that stop your blind outrage at me.
And the invective directed at me, is that blind or is a well reasoned measured response.
Wait, she was petite, I was wrong. Is that reverse fat shaming?
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I dunno. This is the 1st time I've ever responded to you.
Who directed invectives at you?
whathehell
(29,050 posts)The post to which you responded was my first on this thread -- I don't have any "blind outrage" at you.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I'm sure we can all agree that "Officer Friendly" (my snarky name for that fool) acted ridiculously, and unbelievably inappropriately.
I was just thinking that if he's gonna be in a Middle School, he should take note of who he is dealing with. Teenagers act more irrationally, and belligerent, than a child, IMHO, and he should have been prepared for that. For instance, it shouldn't matter if the girl hit him or not. (now if she had had some kind of weapon.... but she didn't)
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)That must be why I prefaced my comment with, "I read..."
When exactly does a person pass from being a child to an adult responsible for their actions? Do keep in mind that I was once sixteen.
Is the magic day the 335th day of their 17th year, the day after they turn 18? This hyperventilating that she was a child (I'm sure when people say it out loud there's reverb) means nothing. Unless we accept the premise that no "child" ever did anything wrong.
I'm not minimizing the SRO actions, he is a bully, even if she was 18 (assuming 18 is an adequate measure of when a person becomes an adult and no longer a "child" , she or no one else deserves the beat down she received. She was treated like she pulled a gun and officer friendly was stopping a mass shooting.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)of a chair. There is no excuse for this behavior and the officer obviously has anger management problems and shouldn't be allowed in any kind of power position in his condition.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Exactly.
The bully cop would still be a bully if he did this in college to a football player. The relevant issue would be what the student did to merit such a response. The worse thing that could be said was the student was using passive resistance. Pages could be written about how administrators put teachers in the box and then also allow only one response which seems to be the death penalty. Way to teach by example.
brush
(53,759 posts)If you have kids you know a 16-year-old is still a child.
Well, I don't have kids as they are too needy. Always wanting food, attention and love, I don't have time for that.
I was however, 16 once and I assure you, I was quite capable of adult crimes like this child was. That is if we accept that the horrible crime of texting or using a cell phone in class deserves a death penalty response. Does the PTA still exist and do parents know this level of discipline seems to be the norm?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I read that she's 18, what does that make her?"
It makes her sixteen, and your implication all the more obvious. Though were it me, I'd quickly rationalize it as something else lest my bias become too clear...
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Why? She's a student. He's an authority figure in a school, which by design requires that he be a role model for the students.
JI7
(89,244 posts)On that video in any way ok ?
I wish it didn't take so long to ban trolls
tabasco
(22,974 posts)spreading disinformation.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Using celebrity to call out wrongs is the best thing they can do with the power they wield. Is wish more of them would.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Thank you for this, and all you do.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Same to you!
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)And if it did, and the cop was a black man, the idiots excusing it would be calling for a lynching
Iris
(15,652 posts)Anyone that denies that is an ignorant fool.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)on edit:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/cops-tend-to-see-black-kids-as-less-innocent-than-white-kids/383247/
http://newsone.com/2962437/american-psychological-association-black-boys/
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/11/study_police_see_black_children_as_less_innocent_and_less_young_than_white_children/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-america-black-children-dont-get-to-be-children/2014/11/26/a9e24756-74ee-11e4-a755-e32227229e7b_story.html
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older.aspx
marym625
(17,997 posts)Just despicable, inexcusable, horrible and heartbreaking. Must be fought at every level. Always.
Thank you for all the links!
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)The important and conclusive studies in this area must be used to change policies in America. This is completely fixable, from birth to adulthood, and must be addressed at every level of our society.
The Washington Post opinion was infuriating and sad. Killing black American children has been accepted by a system that blames the victim.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Tamir Rice's execution bore this out.......
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)replace them with social workers
Great response
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)and as may adults as we can too
marym625
(17,997 posts)Are in just a horrible place. Our schools have become low security prisons. I can't imagine what that does to your psyche
brush
(53,759 posts)It's almost a no-brainer. Dealing with trouble individuals is what social workers do. Whoever thought of the cops in the schools should have been told to come back with better idea.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Slam was the one responsible for her safety at school. He criminally assaulted her. The one trained and paid to protect her brutally assaulted her. He caused direct and possibly lasting physical injuries. By going straight to a blunt force response to what quite bluntly is typical teenage behavior, he degraded her from person to immanent threat. That injury will last far longer than it will take her damaged body to heal.
In addition to the obvious victim; how many of the other students will.ever trust the police again. How many will suffer harm later in life cause Officer Fuckwit taught them the cops are.a bigger problem that the meth dealer on the corner.
To find he has a long history of excessive force is an indictment of the school system, the county government, and the police union themselves. The man is a serial abuser, an overt threat to his community he has taken an oath to defend and protect. He needs incarceration, not unemployment.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)So perfectly stated.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I'm going to add a video to the OP as soon as I can find it. I think you'll love it
marym625
(17,997 posts)The first thing I said about that cop when I saw the video was, he's on steroids. I posted over a year ago that I believe many of these violent cops are taking steroids. You combine that with impunity and racism and this is what you get
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)The Green Manalishi
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Tipperary
(6,930 posts)my heart. I am in no way a violent person but I truly think I could kick that cretin cop right where it hurts.
I am against any sort of internet bullying but I would happily join in to heap scorn and ridicule on that bully.
I am not proud of these thoughts.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I have changed since all this horrific behavior has come to light. And not in a good way.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)not been in years. I just hope someone keeps tabs on where this criminal ends up. I hope he cannot find work in law enforcement ever again.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)forthcoming. But when I listened to that sheriff it was obvious to me that he had no intention of following through.
She has no family apparently. I don't trust her legal representation because I don't think her best interests are in his mind.
I hope she's not going to be abused all over again.
marym625
(17,997 posts)brush
(53,759 posts)it's evident from how he kept blaming the 16-year-old girl for getting the shit beat out of her by his officer, that he's going to make sure the criminal charges stick against her.
And the other student who spoke out to defend her and was then also arrested by "Officer Slam".
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I am just so angry and sad at the same time.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)he sure doesn't need to be in any positions of power over others and he does need some anger management help. Oh yeah, and he does need to pay the school (or whoever has to payout) at least a portion of the penalties they will incur for his actions.
I just don't think jail is a very practical solution for anyone in general. It should only be used (like war) as a last resort when we have no other solutions and the person is a real danger to society and then only for as long as he/she really is a danger. How all of that can really be determined is still a question.
marym625
(17,997 posts)With all due respect
Iris
(15,652 posts)in the red shirt clearly wishing it would all go away, 3rd - the callous reactions on social media by people I considered to be decent people.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)see that he gets it. He definitely doesn't need to be in power of other people.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Seems he was free to go around abusing (Yes abusing, there is NO reason to slam girls to the floor.) girls and probably boys too. If not for the recorded abuse of this orphan, Officer Slam would have still been abusing anyone he wished. He must have been a daily terror to have to deal with. The parents and faculty need to get together and bring out the abuse. They need to get together and support each other as the damage is revealed.
marym625
(17,997 posts)And the charges against the two girls need to be dropped
Iris
(15,652 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)don't know cause - foster mother says the girl is having problems because of it...
I heard this on TV, probably CNN, not sure.
But it makes her treatment seem so much more heartless....
marym625
(17,997 posts)This kid is going to need professional help if she is ever going to trust anyone again
classykaren
(769 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I hope a trustworthy, reliable attorney steps up and does it for free.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)malaise
(268,846 posts)Rec
marym625
(17,997 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)The vet was a Black man. He filed a complaint but charges were dismissed.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Fuck this bullshit. Just fuck it. If the powers that be don't do something aoon, vigilante "justice" is going to start. And that's just as scary. People will only take so much
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)A sickness.
marym625
(17,997 posts)And it's frightening
Iris
(15,652 posts)Just what I needed today. Thanks for posting.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you!
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)She got ragdolled by a much larger man. There is no defending that despite the lack of effort from the right wing.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Even here on du.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Has been for years, sometimes it feels like there are more right wingers than not here.
marym625
(17,997 posts)And third-wayers might as well be republicans. The whole point was to move the Democratic party away from being Democrats. Hence the "third way"
deafskeptic
(463 posts)I don't care how old the young woman is. She should not have been brutally manhandled by Officer Slam. I was horrified when I saw that video. The only excuse for this kind of behavior is if the officer is about to get shot down. The young woman was in no way attacking him. That video made me gasp at the brutality of this action.
marym625
(17,997 posts)And justification of it is just as wrong. Disgusting
We can't allow this to continue
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)called the asshole a thug and a bully.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I love it too. Perfect rant
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Even if she weren't a child, the cop's behavior should be enough to get him into jail. When are cops authorized to use force? Isn't that only if someone has violated a law? She was sitting at her desk, refusing to move or stop using her cell phone, possibly disrupting class. Problematic behavior? Yes. A crime? What was the cop's legal authority? Even if he somehow did have authority to use force, the force he used was way beyond what was necessary. It was assault.
It may be that much worse because she's a child, but the cop's behavior seems to me to criminal even aside from the victim's youth.
I wonder how the guy in the video drives with his hands off the wheel and his attention 95% on the camera?
marym625
(17,997 posts)As far as his driving, I think he's in the back seat and someone in the front passenger seat is filming.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that if you don't comply immediately and fellate them, then that is a crime. Fuck cops.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)how the system is supposed to work and the role they are supposed to play in it.
Then someone who outranks them needs to enforce on them.
They behave as if they are above the law because they are treated that way. They are treated that way because they don't get convicted when they do break the law. They don't get convicted because they are part of the system. There needs to be a separate system of justice for cops, so that their buddies are not the ones prosecuting them.
niyad
(113,213 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)That's why she's in foster care.
There's no way the teacher and principal didn't know that.
niyad
(113,213 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Kath1
(4,309 posts)I love her tweets. She is usually right on point.
marym625
(17,997 posts)And yeah, this is definitely on point!
Kath1
(4,309 posts)Always opinionated, always entertaining, and she has knack for speaking the truth in a few words. I love her.
And this is one cool video...
marym625
(17,997 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)She has really been through it all and helped strengthen women's rights by showing her strength. I really admire her.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)American citizens need a Federal law banning police groundings. It's become commonplace for police to slam people to the ground, harder the better.
If the Federal Gov. doesn't want to outright ban police slam tactic, then require a total body MRI for every person slammed.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I saw it too. It's obvious that kids that protested this kind of abuse in the past have paid a heavy price.
No excuse.
Not a bad idea, the MRI. I would add steroid testing on the cops as well
adigal
(7,581 posts)on the ground. Like when they are trying to shoot your child.
Sheesh.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, why hasn't he been arrested?
marym625
(17,997 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)if the races were reversed whooo boy the Right Whingers would be calling for his head.
marym625
(17,997 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Kath1
(4,309 posts)I love her posts. And yes, she is addicted to perfect sense!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)So very sweet of you
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)like, where would we Bernie people be without you?
marym625
(17,997 posts)I'm sure they would be fine. But they would have fewer flyers out there.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Truly honored. I love your posts.
marym625
(17,997 posts)So sweet!
Kath1
(4,309 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)So sweet!
merrily
(45,251 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)The more attention we can bring to this racist insanity, the better!
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)He assaulted her in a moment of anger (as those in power are apt to do).
One of those acts is a felony.
marym625
(17,997 posts)From what I've seen and read, this wasn't necessarily anger. Just a cop hopped up on steroids. Normal for him. Which is even worse imho.
The kid needs love, not violence
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)marym625
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I agree with the David Champion Media guy. The copster® is obviously on steroids. Cops on steroids are unfit for duty.
Just imagine if a black officer had done that to a white girl student. All these loudmouths defending the officer would suddenly take the opposite position.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Showing exactly that. All fake of course. But a black cop doing that to a white girl. Then, after the racists finish being racist about it, saying exactly the opposite of what they're saying about this, bust them all for their horrific behavior.
Thank you!!!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)marym625
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brush
(53,759 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)brush
(53,759 posts)You're right. He's a different guy against police brutality and anti-muslim bigotry but also against gun regulation.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I love it too. Righteous rant!
drynberg
(1,648 posts)He was while driving, I would have enjoyed him pulling over while he was speaking.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Passenger side is taking the video.
Great rant he gave!
blackspade
(10,056 posts)K&R!
marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you!