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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:36 PM Oct 2015

Can *anybody* explain this to me? Because I sure as fuck don't get it.

Students Walk Out in Support of Fired Deputy

Hundreds of students walked out of Spring Valley High School in Columbia, South Carolina on Friday morning in support of the deputy sheriff who was fired after violently arresting a black student. Students reportedly chanted “Free Fields” in support of Ben Fields, a school resource officer and football coach who was caught on tape forcibly removing a black student from her desk, allegedly because she was disrupting class. The students walked into the school atrium and then returned to class after administrators addressed them.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/10/30/students-walk-out-for-fired-deputy.html?via=twitter_page

http://www.live5news.com/story/30393934/spring-valley-students-stage-walkout-in-support-of-ben-fields
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Can *anybody* explain this to me? Because I sure as fuck don't get it. (Original Post) Blue_Tires Oct 2015 OP
I'm guessing those kids are from "Fox News" households, cheapdate Oct 2015 #1
I was thinking along those lines too. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #22
Football is important, you know? ghostsinthemachine Oct 2015 #2
Turns out the asshole cop was also the football coach. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #3
Football matters to the students at the Ohio school Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #12
And that's relevant to this case... how? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #16
You made a sarcastic comment about football. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #38
My comment suggested that the students who protested the thug cop/coach's firing The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #40
For most football teams winning is all that matters so football players can get away with quite a liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #25
I was wondering when I watched the video that none of the other students were even LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #4
She lost her mother. He gave her serious injuries to her bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #7
Yes, I know. I was just wondering because normally when something like that is going on LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #15
They are teenagers. Chemisse Oct 2015 #18
I work with and see several teens a day JackInGreen Oct 2015 #30
It must be the jocks that are supporting him then. That makes sense. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #32
One of them did react Fumesucker Oct 2015 #35
They call him Officer Slam TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #14
That abusive SOB needs to go to jail. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #5
Should they not all be arrested for "disturbing school"? ( n/t ) Make7 Oct 2015 #6
the girl is black and this guy is white JI7 Oct 2015 #8
Oh NP...I am from Texas and I see the reason right away. Rex Oct 2015 #9
It all makes sense now. Chemisse Oct 2015 #19
As pathetic as that may sound... Rex Oct 2015 #20
students at my high school rallied in support of a teacher who grabbed a female geek tragedy Oct 2015 #10
LOL! Yeah they can be. Chemisse Oct 2015 #21
You know, I don't have kids and never wanted any, but sometimes I wish I had them smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #39
good luck with that annabanana Oct 2015 #41
"a school resource officer and football coach" FSogol Oct 2015 #11
The school encourages this, football is part of the official culture Fumesucker Oct 2015 #37
People are dicks. Brickbat Oct 2015 #13
Racist assholes raised on fundy religulon hifiguy Oct 2015 #17
Two possibilities. Igel Oct 2015 #23
He's a football coach? That right there explains it. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #24
In a few years, they'll convince these kids to "fight for our freedom." valerief Oct 2015 #26
I didn't realize he was also a football coach. That explains it right there. arcane1 Oct 2015 #27
Popularity contest IMO lpbk2713 Oct 2015 #28
there's always a few brownshirts in every group Locrian Oct 2015 #29
Did Coach Dredd call in back up? JackInGreen Oct 2015 #31
If she was white and he was a black football coach? Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #33
"High School in Columbia, South Carolina" ronnie624 Oct 2015 #34
Why didn't the remaining school cops body slam them to the ground? rug Oct 2015 #36

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
16. And that's relevant to this case... how?
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:59 PM
Oct 2015

Yay for the coach who chased the shooter in Ohio. The thug cop/coach who slammed the girl in SC was something else entirely. The two cases have no relevance to each other.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
38. You made a sarcastic comment about football.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:10 PM
Oct 2015

Not all football coaches are assholes like the one that beat up the girl. My high school football coach was a great guy and a family man.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
40. My comment suggested that the students who protested the thug cop/coach's firing
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

apparently regarded their football program as more important than the way their pig of a coach treated the girl he abused. I do reserve the right to be sarcastic about football because it (and other sports) gets way more respect, attention and funding than it deserves. Of course not all football coaches are assholes. At my high school the hockey coach was the asshole.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
25. For most football teams winning is all that matters so football players can get away with quite a
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:35 PM
Oct 2015

lot with no consequences because if the team punished the player then they might lose the game. Happens everywhere.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. I was wondering when I watched the video that none of the other students were even
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:43 PM
Oct 2015

phased by all the activity. They looked like it was an everyday occurrence. I wonder if the girl was a disruptive influence in the class and the students that were there to learn are the ones supporting the deputy.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
7. She lost her mother. He gave her serious injuries to her
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:46 PM
Oct 2015

back neck and arm. This guy did not show any concern when he did this. He could have killed her (broke her neck) the way he slammed her and then grab her out of her desk. This child needed help and instead she got violence.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
15. Yes, I know. I was just wondering because normally when something like that is going on
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:57 PM
Oct 2015

you see some kind emotion out of other people. Maybe they are so numbed by everything that they prefer videoing everything instead of experiencing something. I have seen videos where a bunch of people are videoing a person bleeding to death instead of helping the person. Maybe that is why everyone did not even bat an eye. I noticed the girl seated behind her did not even flinch when the desk was slammed into hers.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
30. I work with and see several teens a day
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:44 PM
Oct 2015

Their opinion reflects mine.
Fear. Those kids didn't react because an angry cop is a mad dog, and will bite anyone that objects.
When you've been show that Coach Dredd can do anything you shut up, scrunch down, let the storm pass.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
14. They call him Officer Slam
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:54 PM
Oct 2015

He has a reputation. He also made a point to take the Chromebook off the girl's desk to keep IT safe.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Oh NP...I am from Texas and I see the reason right away.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:48 PM
Oct 2015

Students reportedly chanted “Free Fields” in support of Ben Fields, a school resource officer and football coach who was caught on tape forcibly removing a black student from her desk, allegedly because she was disrupting class.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. students at my high school rallied in support of a teacher who grabbed a female
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:49 PM
Oct 2015

student and spanked her in front of the entire school.

high school kids are assholes

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
21. LOL! Yeah they can be.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:11 PM
Oct 2015

A lot has to do with who the student is, and what group she is in (ie who her friends are). If the girl is an outcast or in an outcast social group, the other students will tend to side with the teacher/officer, against the girl. They don't have a lot of perspective.

As they get older (seniors), many high school kids start to gain a higher awareness, and get beyond the dictates of the teenager-created social structure. But until that happens, they are slaves to it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. You know, I don't have kids and never wanted any, but sometimes I wish I had them
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:19 PM
Oct 2015

just so I could raise them to be decent human beings to offset the hoards of kids who seem to be complete heartless assholes.

I swear, all the wrong people are breeding. People don't realize that the point of raising a child is to create an adult who is an asset to society, rather than a liability.

FSogol

(45,480 posts)
11. "a school resource officer and football coach"
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:49 PM
Oct 2015

Key word: Football.

What a frigging embarrassment. Suspend them all.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. The school encourages this, football is part of the official culture
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 06:18 PM
Oct 2015

Blame the adults that have encouraged this sort of behavior, not those who have been trained into it.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
23. Two possibilities.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:31 PM
Oct 2015

Not mutually exclusive.

1. The guy was generally liked and friendly and helped a lot of kids. Perhaps because it's football, perhaps not. One officer assigned to a school I worked at got along really well with the students. And still bruised kids, no doubt, when he frog-walked them from the building after battery, drug dealing, arson, etc.

2. The student was disliked for her behavior. A lot of kids may not like school, but if a student is disruptive it makes their life harder--they dislike school, want to pass, and have to deal with a student who constantly disrupts their environment. It creates a stressed out teacher, which creates a more stressful class; it creates lower achievement levels because time is spent not on providing a free and appropriate education but in maintaining order. I had a class that actually clapped when it learned this one kid was finally sent to an alternative ed program for 6 weeks.

Note that low SES kids are more susceptible to having their learning really hurt by class disruptions. It takes 3-4 kids that like the disruption, who are rewarded for being moderate disruptors, to create problems. Or one kid who's really, really good at it. Often the "reward" is attention, or the sense of power at controlling the classroom.

Empathy has a good side, it has a bad side.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
26. In a few years, they'll convince these kids to "fight for our freedom."
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:37 PM
Oct 2015

They'll wise up after losing their health from Endless War and living with the govt fucking them over.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. I didn't realize he was also a football coach. That explains it right there.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:37 PM
Oct 2015

Raping children is even considered secondary to a good football coach

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
29. there's always a few brownshirts in every group
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:42 PM
Oct 2015

The kind that worship power and force.

I've heard quite a few saying she basically deserved it for not "respecting" his authority.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
33. If she was white and he was a black football coach?
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 05:59 PM
Oct 2015

He would have his life threatened but in South Carolina black lives really don't matter so we get cheers and chants of support.

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