Another epic failure election with Debbie Wasserman Schultz in charge of the DNC

[bigdarryl]

I can't remember any major wins since she's been in charge

[brooklynite]

1. Um, Barack Obama?

I think that was sort of a biggie...

[Chan790]

5. She wasn't the DNC chair the first time he won, Dean was.

The second time, a president gets elected or defeated on their own merits; she gets no credit for 2012.

She has no accomplishments and a record of failure. Fire her now please for the love of God before she finds a way to lose in 2016.

[brooklynite]

7. I wasn't aware that you got to decide who gets credit...

...but for what it's worth, we actually EXPANDED our Senate control in 2012.

Add to which, under her leadership we've raised more money than the Republicans...which is one of her major responsibilities,

[GGJohn]

9. And then got our asses handed to us in 2014.

Debbie has been a disaster as the DNC leader, it's time to bring in new blood and start fixing what's broken.

[rufus dog]

12. Um NO

We held the Senate but lost seats as compared to 2008.

[brooklynite]

17. We lost seats in 10 and GAINED seats in 12.

[GGJohn]

33. And, again, got our asses handed to us in 14.

DWS needs to go and new blood brought in or put Howard Dean in charge again.

[Mister Ed]

25. That point - "under her leadership we've raised more money than the Republicans...

...which is one of her major responsibilities"...

That, I'm afraid, is the key point to it all.

No doubt about it, the party needs to raise colossal amounts of money in order to succeed. But surely, a lot of that money must come with strings attached. Or steel cables. Or anchor chains. Therein lies the problem, and the obstacle to success.

I haven't any instant solutions to offer, but I think we can see the problem quite clearly.

[pnwmom]

20. Nonsense. Of course she gets credit for 2012. You'd damn well be blaming her if he'd lost. n/t

[B Calm]

2. It's time for her to be replaced!

[HassleCat]

3. Obama took the blame last time

I'm not sure why, but people always blame the president for congressional and state losses in off-year elections. Remember when Obama came on TV and apologized to Democrats for the "shellacking?" Was he the architect of our party's strategy? I don't think so. And it's clear he is not in lockstep with the party this time, so let's see if we blame our losses on him. The Republicans will certainly call this a big rejection of his policies, but what will we say? Oh, I know... He needs to be more like a Republican. Hey, I have an idea. Let's invade someplace! That always cheers people up.

[appalachiablue]

4. The aim might be that warm purple place ya know.

[pa28]

6. It's not about winning. It's about playing the game.

That's why Howard Dean was fired and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is secure in her job despite massive losses nationwide.

[kelliekat44]

8. Place blame where it really belongs...with all of us. If you are a DUer and live in those states

what did you do to motivate our side to get out and vote? Truth is, our passion is on getting the perfect not the possible. The GOP works hard to elect the petulant.

[jeff47]

10. You have the causality backwards

It's not up to the voters to line up and vote.
It's up to the politicians to get the voters to line up and vote.

That's why the Republicans throw all sorts of red meat to their base. To get them to the polls.

Instead, we whine about how awful our voters are for being "unrealistic" and then whine more when our voters don't feel motivated.

[daleanime]

26. Amen....

[upaloopa]

29. You will always lose with your attitude. It isn't red meat that gets the right to vote

They want to win and they know it is up to them.

[jeff47]

31. They want to win and they have candidates who want to win.

We want to win and we have candidates that will consider winning as long as they don't upset anyone other than our base.

[appalachiablue]

30. Well said. Politicians must lead on MOTIVATION for voters who need to be more informed

and inspired to get out and vote. Forget the corporate mainstream media that supports the status quo establishment. Republican Light and Apathy isn't working.

We absolutely need a POLITICAL AWAKENING and REVOLUTION to try to keep this country from going back to the 1920s, and the 1890s which is what the GOP aims. Too scary.

>What is the PLAN and VISION of the Democratic Party, and what is being done to RECRUIT new Democratic VOTERS and POLITICIANS on the local, state and national level I wonder.

*THE PARTY of "CAN'T" is what the Democrats seem, sorry to say............




?

[moondust]

11. Her predecessor didn't do so well either.

Tim Kaine was DNC chair when the 2010 midterms were lost. I pay fairly close attention to politics and I don't recall anybody at that time making an issue about those midterms setting the stage for redistricting. Somebody's fucking hair should have been on fire warning voters that should Republicans win those midterms their gerrymandering could change the political landscape for a decade or more, and that Republican bigots were going to turn out in droves to vote against Obama even though he wasn't running.

[jeff47]

14. But then we might have won.

And then those icky voters would expect Democrats to actually do something. The donors wouldn't like that.

Much better to return to "gridlock" where Republicans manage to advance their causes while Democrats say "oh, nothing can be done". That keeps the donors happy.

[moondust]

15. And Tim Kaine ended up with a Senate seat.

Better than the alternative, I'm sure, but still...

[Hydra]

18. Our leadership is shockingly quiet about things like election fraud and the results thereof n/t

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[truebluegreen]

21. That was my very first thought when I saw the results

out of Kentucky. Yeah, I know it's Kentucky: makes the election that much easier to steal. I'd like to know what the exit polls had to say...exit polls that used to be very accurate until we got electronic voting machines...but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

[KG]

13. apparently her job is to raise money not get dems elected. c'mon people get with it

[RandySF]

16. 2012

[madinmaryland]

19. Has she actually done anything??

No she hasn't.

[CharlotteVale]

22. She's worse than useless.

[alp227]

23. +100. Debbie has to go NOW.

As much of an ass that Reince Priebus is for stopping his party's partnership with NBC for debates after the spat with CNBC moderators, at least he stands up for his side. What has Debbie stood up for besides being an easy going, soft figurehead? And where did the "50 state" strategy go? Used to be that Democrats could at least win governorships or senate seats in states that vote Republicans for president...now the (D) governors and senators only win in solid blue states!

[Scuba]

24. Hey, hey, ho, ho. DINO Debbie's got to go!

[LiberalArkie]

27. DWS being southern more than likely believes in "states rights" in this case letting the

states finance and provide support for the Democratic candidates and letting the Koch brothers do it for the Republicans.

[upaloopa]

28. If you don't vote you don't win. The blame game that you live in is why you lose.

Take responsibility.


I'll wait while you call me a right winger for saying that.

[L. Coyote]

32. Another epic post facto blame game slam that is both divisive and counter-productive.

And such a substantive post it is. Love the in depth analysis, the useful suggestions and all the positiviity in the suggestions for moving forward in a better direction.

Run out of coffee or something? Still too early? Smile, 2016 is coming and we are going to kick them out in the general. And the general in 2020 means we control and undo the gerrymandering. Brace yourself for a lot of victory ahead.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Get DEAN to step in for a 1 year temp assignment. NOW ! nt