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Photographer

(1,142 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:06 PM Nov 2015

Christian preg. centers freak after California turns tables and forces them to disclose abortion law

Christian pregnancy centers freak out after California turns tables and forces them to disclose abortion rights

For years, conservatives have been placing roadblocks to make it harder for women to get an abortion, but the state of California has turned the tables, forcing Christian pregnancy crisis centers to notify women of their reproductive rights.

NPR reported this week that a number of so-called pregnancy crisis centers were suing the state over regulations in the Reproductive FACT Act, which would force them to post a notice that abortion is legal in the state.

According to the law, a sign in large 22-point type must be posted in the lobby reading:

California has public programs that provide immediate free or low-cost access to comprehensive family planning services (including all FDA-approved methods of contraception), prenatal care, and abortion for eligible women. To determine whether you qualify, contact the county social services office at [insert the telephone number].

More at http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/christians-pregnancy-centers-freak-out-after-california-turns-tables-and-forces-them-to-disclose-abortion-rights/

What's good for the goose...

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Christian preg. centers freak after California turns tables and forces them to disclose abortion law (Original Post) Photographer Nov 2015 OP
I'm loving being a California resident marym625 Nov 2015 #1
Plus one. Consider yourself lucky. I'm a blue dot in a red sea here. Photographer Nov 2015 #2
that sucks marym625 Nov 2015 #3
Me, too! displacedtexan Nov 2015 #9
We brought ours a couple years ago, but were told they weren't aloud in the voting area. C Moon Nov 2015 #11
I had already filled out my ballot at home. displacedtexan Nov 2015 #14
Oh too cool! marym625 Nov 2015 #13
The conceit that is Xian elitism has to end. stopbush Nov 2015 #4
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #8
Nice. tanyev Nov 2015 #5
I wonder how many will post this passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #6
Ha, Ha!! blackspade Nov 2015 #7
Any Religious Person Who Has A Problem With Telling People The Truth NonMetro Nov 2015 #10
It seems to be a Chinese Menu sort of thing for many. Photographer Nov 2015 #15
That, too! NonMetro Nov 2015 #30
Considering how these clinics "negotiate" payments, the notice is more about financial assistance. haele Nov 2015 #12
A few other rules ( a modest proposal ) : knightmaar Nov 2015 #16
LOL SunSeeker Nov 2015 #18
Love it! valerief Nov 2015 #20
Why no wider than 16 feet? jmowreader Nov 2015 #23
Between 14 and 16 feet knightmaar Nov 2015 #27
14 feet is sufficient to accomodate a hospital bed and a medical team working a patient. Chan790 Nov 2015 #28
Sounds good to me. jmowreader Nov 2015 #29
Excellent!! Wish that could go nation-wide. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #17
Now they know what the rule of law of this country and means ........fair and equal justice......... turbinetree Nov 2015 #19
As goes California so goes the rest of the country. Thank you California! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #21
I'm happy to hear that, thanks for sharing. nt Unrepentant Fenian Nov 2015 #22
Good libodem Nov 2015 #24
Love California. lark Nov 2015 #25
I supported Jerry Brown back in the 1976 primaries. hifiguy Nov 2015 #26
I wonder how many will actually obey the law niyad Nov 2015 #31
I wonder how many microseconds it will take for them to file a religious discrimination suit jmowreader Nov 2015 #33
and there is, of course, that. niyad Nov 2015 #36
Turn them on their heads houston16revival Nov 2015 #32
Good for California. Good for women. nt PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #34
Short: State bans Christian PG Crisis Centers from lying - Christians get mad Serial Mom Nov 2015 #35
For the record, nothing makes these places angrier than when a woman decides to raise her baby. StevieM Nov 2015 #37

marym625

(17,997 posts)
3. that sucks
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

Been there when I lived in rural, western Kentucky. But mostly lived in Chicago.

Sorry. Hopefully, you'll not be just a dot soon!

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
14. I had already filled out my ballot at home.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:57 PM
Nov 2015

I just had to take it to the box in the entry area. The polling place workers love my dogs.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
10. Any Religious Person Who Has A Problem With Telling People The Truth
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:37 PM
Nov 2015

Is not as moral as they think they are, and they have no business trying to tell other people anything.

haele

(12,649 posts)
12. Considering how these clinics "negotiate" payments, the notice is more about financial assistance.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015

Some of these "Xtian" clinics recoup the cost in the adoption service they provide. And they certainly don't provide family planning worth a spit other than abstinence counseling.
This forces the clinics to actually provide information that there are pregnancy options, pre-natal care, and follow-up services the state of California will pay for, unlike the forced surrogacy for church adoptions that many of these places push. They don't have to discuss abortion there, but they won't be able to tell a desperate pregnant girl or woman that the only care she will be able to afford is through their clinic following their rules.

Haele

knightmaar

(748 posts)
16. A few other rules ( a modest proposal ) :
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:34 AM
Nov 2015

All "pregnancy crisis centres" in California must:

Have hallways at least 14 feet wide, but no wider than 16 feet.
A janitorial closet at 100 sq ft in area
A welcoming area with no fewer 16 chairs
A qualified medical doctor, with hospital privileges, on staff at all times.
Ice cream and pickles.

jmowreader

(50,556 posts)
23. Why no wider than 16 feet?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:18 PM
Nov 2015

A Christian-funded "pregnancy crisis center" should not be allowed to own an ultrasound device with image storage, because I wouldn't put it past these bastards to collect a sonograph of a normal 8th-month pregnancy from someone in their church, then show that image to every client.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
27. Between 14 and 16 feet
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

Because ... uh ... pregnant women are pretty big ... and, uh, hospital gurneys ... but if you make the hallways too wide, mumble, mumble bad for the environment.

I really don't know the excuses you're supposed to make. These rules are supposed to be onerous and arbitrary.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
28. 14 feet is sufficient to accomodate a hospital bed and a medical team working a patient.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:17 PM
Nov 2015

Along with any equipment necessary and a crash cart. So that's why you need 14' hallways.

16' is so wide as to create the illusion that two beds will pass each other easily which creates a hazardous situation that might result in harm to patients or staff. Wider-still hallways present issues of structural stability in an earthquake. That's why you can't have hallways wider than 16'.

(This is all bullshit...but it's passable bullshit. As my friend Charlie used to say, "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.&quot

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
19. Now they know what the rule of law of this country and means ........fair and equal justice.........
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:27 AM
Nov 2015

Way to go California, 22 point type ----------------nice a big and readable







Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016





libodem

(19,288 posts)
24. Good
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:43 PM
Nov 2015

I'd still like to tell them where to stick the vaginal ultrasound wand.

Busybody buttinskies get to taste their own medicine. How else can activists insinuate themselves in antiabortionists' business? Maybe release heavily edited films about them trying to buy babies?

lark

(23,097 posts)
25. Love California.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

I loved living there for 18 years but had to move back to the South to help with elderly parents. Now, I can't afford to move back. I still love to visit there, however. Great friends, great scenery, awesome Mexican and Chinese food, ah how I miss it there.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. I supported Jerry Brown back in the 1976 primaries.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

and 39 years later he is still laying the smacketh down.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
37. For the record, nothing makes these places angrier than when a woman decides to raise her baby.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

They aren't just anti-abortion. They want EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock to be given up for adoption.

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